Sign the Petition for Womens state pension age going up unfair

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  • zagfles
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    saver861 wrote: »
    Everybody is entitled to say what the they think - however, it seems if people have nothing new to say then repeating the same old thing is the next best option.

    Comical really ....
    Yes, particularly coming from the person with probably the highest post count on this thread :rotfl:
  • saver861
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    zagfles wrote: »
    Yes, particularly coming from the person with probably the highest post count on this thread :rotfl:

    Yes - the difference being many of my posts are suggesting proactive rather than reactive.

    I've not counted the posts myself though so I'll just take your word for it. :D
  • zagfles
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    saver861 wrote: »
    Yes - the difference being many of my posts are suggesting proactive rather than reactive.
    You've been spending the last few pages "reacting" to the comments of others. Trying to slate the posters rather than what they write.

    Hint - nobody cares what you think of them. We're interested in discussing pensions. That's why we're here.

    Hint2 - this thread is over 30 pages. Threads of that size always get repetative. The usual thing people do when the same thing is being said time and time again is to stop posting on the thread saying the same thing time and time again.

    Not telling others to just because you want the last word :rotfl:
  • bmm78
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    POPPYOSCAR wrote: »
    No, expecting everybody to "read serious newspapers" is though.

    Jo Cumbo's research shows that coverage of the state pension changes was far from limited to serious newspapers.

    The changes were announced live on television via the budget. The budget has extensive coverage in the tabloids.
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  • jem16
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    saver861 wrote: »
    Incorrect. The majority on here are lay people with some knowledge of pensions, finance etc. These are not experts.

    Hence my use of inverted commas around the word experts as you have so ably quoted.

    Do you have any links or references to these campaigns?

    The Ros Altmann one you linked to earlier was the main one. I'm sure you can find others if you so wish.
  • Goldiegirl
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    Aegis wrote: »
    Out of interest, why 10 years rather than, say, 5 or 20?


    As others have said, this 10 years appears to be deemed 'fair warning'


    Although it is debatable that, if everyone had been given 10 years warning, whether they'd have taken any action about it.


    Plus, there'd still be people who would claim 'no one told me'
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  • jem16
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    POPPYOSCAR wrote: »
    Some of the journalists seem to think this has not been communicated to those affected as it should have been.

    Have those journalists showed what the government is actually obliged to do and exactly how much information is/was available out there?
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    edited 27 January 2016 at 12:13PM
    Goldiegirl wrote: »
    Although it is debatable that, if everyone had been given 10 years warning, whether they'd have taken any action about it.

    Very true.

    I did read a post from someone who said that she was 50 in 2004 and that the booklet published in 2004 detailing the changes would have been too early for her as she wasn't interested then.

    This really is the problem - there are many WASPI supporters who simply want their state pension at 60 ( or compensation ) and will latch on to any reason to say they weren't told.
  • Goldiegirl
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    colsten wrote: »
    Why should all 1953 to 1956 women have their 18 months extension removed? Many of them are still active in working life / own their own companies / do not consider the additional 18 months an issue.

    But leaving those questions aside: how much would this cost? who would be paying for it?


    If this happened, then there'd be the problem a huge jump in pension age between women born in 1956 and 1957 - which would seem unfair if you happened to be born in 1957.


    If the extension was removed for all, it'd just shift the sense of unfairness on to another group.


    It'd probably be best for help to be targeted in some way to the most needy
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  • Daniel54
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    bmm78 wrote: »
    Jo Cumbo's research shows that coverage of the state pension changes was far from limited to serious newspapers.

    The changes were announced live on television via the budget. The budget has extensive coverage in the tabloids.


    It's interesting that the 2004 DWP report identifies television as the main source of awareness of the changes to women's state pension age (52% of men and 42% of women). Charts and commentary on Page 16 of the attached

    http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20130314010347/http://research.dwp.gov.uk/asd/asd5/rports2003-2004/rrep221.pdf
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