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    • Nick_C
    • By Nick_C 4th Dec 17, 3:23 PM
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    Nick_C
    That was largely my point. MSE ranks the free card higher than the paid one, yet there's really no reason to get the free one. If you want the voucher then pay the fee and get spend £10k. If you don't want the voucher then get a different card entirely (either the preferred rewards gold card or Platinum Cashback) because 1 Avios per £1 spent is a terrible return compared to other options.
    Originally posted by Vehlin
    I think the only reason to use the free BA card is if you are saving for a long time for a flight, and you don't need a voucher in the next year.

    I've temporarily downgraded to the free card, because I have a voucher banked and I'm getting more avios/£ with my Lloyds card.

    And if you are travelling solo, the Lloyds Avios card is better, as it allows one person to travel in Club World for the (avios) price of World Traveller plus
    • Nick_C
    • By Nick_C 4th Dec 17, 3:35 PM
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    Nick_C
    What survey sites are you using? How often?

    I've gotten 1,000 Virgin Flying Club Miles via eRewards, but there are not many surveys and it takes too long to get enough to redeem.

    ~ 25k miles is a lot and I'm interested to know
    Originally posted by stevenhp1987
    Last year, I got 12,770 from Rewards for Thoughts, and my partner got 2725.

    I also got 6,750 from e-rewards and my partner got 2,750

    First five months of this year, we got 16,000 from e-rewards and 8,500 from Rewards for Thoughts.

    I've more or less stopped for now as I've got nearly 200,000 Avios banked.

    I am time rich as I have retired, so I couldn't tell you how long it took, but I would guess about 200 Avios an hour on average, so probably 3 hours a week.
    • Roger1
    • By Roger1 5th Dec 17, 12:15 PM
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    Roger1
    So that's an additional 30,000 Avios for £195 which is 65p per Avios.
    Originally posted by Vehlin
    Really?

    Of course not. I make it 0.65p (or £0.0065) using those figures.
    • Vehlin
    • By Vehlin 7th Dec 17, 11:19 AM
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    Vehlin
    Really?

    Of course not. I make it 0.65p (or £0.0065) using those figures.
    Originally posted by Roger1
    You're right, I was off by a couple of zeros there. It does further reinforce my point however, that there's really no point in getting the free BA Amex.
    • roy_scott
    • By roy_scott 2nd Mar 18, 7:27 PM
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    roy_scott
    where do you earn 25K points on surveys?
    • eskbanker
    • By eskbanker 2nd Mar 18, 7:44 PM
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    eskbanker
    where do you earn 25K points on surveys?
    Originally posted by roy_scott
    Scroll up a bit, that very question was answered three posts before yours in post #122....
    • Teresa lane
    • By Teresa lane 20th Mar 18, 1:05 PM
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    Does anyone know if there is an Avios or British airways Visa? There used to be one with TSB but it doesn’t seem to be available anymore.
    • Nick_C
    • By Nick_C 21st Mar 18, 12:04 AM
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    Nick_C
    Does anyone know if there is an Avios or British airways Visa? There used to be one with TSB but it doesn’t seem to be available anymore.
    Originally posted by Teresa lane
    There are no UK avios visa cards.

    There is the Lloyd's Amex/MC twin pack, which can be very good value for many people. You need to be quick though as it is being withdrawn. Now available over the phone or in branch. No longer available on line.
    • Treva
    • By Treva 17th Jun 18, 1:34 PM
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    Ba amex card -is it worth it?
    I was so exited when I got my AMEX card so I could get cheap flights and companion flights. What happens in reality is a different tale. Lets start with getting a flight with BA, which is one of the most expensive airlines in the world. After you have trawled through numerous dates and options you will most certainly find a flight cheaper by booking via an online travel broker with a better or comparable airline and without the worry of having to remember to pay off the credit card before it stings you. Reason it's cheaper at an online agent is because BA will charge you taxes, which is fair enough but it's not transparent then add to the supposedly free flight with BA fees.


    Now lets move onto the so called free companion flight. You need to book a flight using BA Avios for yourself when you eventually find one and pay the associated tax and add on fees. Then hopefully find another Avios flight at the same time and in the same cabin class for your companion and then, you've guessed it pay another set of taxes and mysterious fees, each way. When you find a flight in say one cabin class on the way out you will find that in most cases be no flights in the same cabin class for your return, which forces you to pay an upgraded price or down grade as the case may be again for both you and your companion. Yes, the companion voucher is valid for a year before it cancels out but in that year you will still have to go with your companion on any flight and in the same cabin class in that year.


    Ok so most European flight charge only around £35 each way in extra taxes plus your Avios Air miles but as it's only about three hours max you can pay about the same price on a budget airline without going through the same crazy rigmarole and from your local airport.
    • Nick_C
    • By Nick_C 17th Jun 18, 7:57 PM
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    Nick_C
    "Ba amex card -is it worth it?"

    Yes. If you want to fly Club World or First at an affordable price.
    • msallen
    • By msallen 18th Jun 18, 3:51 AM
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    msallen
    "Ba amex card -is it worth it?"

    Yes. If you want to fly Club World or First at an affordable price.
    Originally posted by Nick_C
    ... or one way long haul economy, or certain European routes at prime times (e.g. skiing hotspots during school holidays).....

    Basically, as you will find said all over the place if you bother to do the most rudimentary research before collecting hundreds of thousands of Avios, they can be great value if you know how to use them, but don't just think "Oh I'll get a free flight to xxxx next year".

    For beginners to intermediate tips see the headforpoints site, and for advanced discussions see flyertalk.
    Last edited by msallen; Yesterday at 3:54 AM. Reason: Added websites
    • 2ilent8cho
    • By 2ilent8cho 18th Jun 18, 12:54 PM
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    2ilent8cho
    I applied for the premium BA Amex card Friday, but got the we need to do some further checks before we can give you a decision message , i doubt i am going to get it, I have defaults that are from 5.5 years ago, but everything else since then is green. At least its a maybe and not an instant decline. Anybody else managed to get this card who still has defaults showing on their credit file?

    I've got 430,000 Avios saved up that i want to spend over the next 2 to 3 years visiting a few places in America (New York , Las Vegas) so thought this would top the balance up and i should spend enough to get a 2 for 1 voucher so i can hopefully do first class on both trips with the amount of points i will have by then.
    • GM1880
    • By GM1880 18th Jun 18, 2:22 PM
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    GM1880
    Yes,

    Got a 4 year old settled default and go one with a £5700 limit having had to go through the manual checks.
    • 2ilent8cho
    • By 2ilent8cho 18th Jun 18, 2:30 PM
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    2ilent8cho
    Yes,

    Got a 4 year old settled default and go one with a £5700 limit having had to go through the manual checks.
    Originally posted by GM1880
    So there is hope for me yet then. Did you get an email after a few days saying you had been accepted or a letter? or was it just a case of the card appeared?
    • GM1880
    • By GM1880 18th Jun 18, 2:46 PM
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    GM1880
    No, I called them a day after to ask what information they would like. Confirmed address and salary, then they confirmed I was accepted and the card arrived 48 hours later.
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