UKPC - PCN - Vehicle/Owner Left Site for 6 Minutes! Newport Isle of Wight

Hi again

I am writing thi thread on behalf of a friend of mine.

My friend entered a car park in Newport Isle of Wight on Wednesday 5th June at 09:23. My friend wanted to go to KFC but it was shut on arrival.

There was no toilet on site as the Cinema was closed therefore, my friend left the site in order to look for one as they have prostrate issues and needed one asap.

When my friend came back from the toilet he had a PCN waiting for him timed at 09:29.

When my friend told me about the PCN they said they were just going to pay it however, I said I would enquire here to see if you guys can help, like you did with the one that I came accross a couple of years ago.


I have searched the forums and looked at UKPC threads intently, I am well versed with Parking Eye (thanks to coupon mad) but it appears that these criminals act a little differently, hiding and lying in wait!

In my search of the threads I have come across the following letter, is this acceptable to use ?

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Re PCN number:

I dispute your 'parking charge', as the keeper of the vehicle. I deny any liability or contractual agreement and I will be making a formal complaint about your predatory conduct to your client landowner and to my MP.

There will be no admissions as to who was driving and no assumptions can be drawn. Since your PCN is a vague template, I require ALL photos taken and an explanation of the allegation and your evidence, i.e.:

- If the allegation concerns a PDT machine, the data supplied in response to this appeal must include the record of payments made - showing partial VRNs - and an explanation of the reason for the PCN, because your Notice does not explain it.

-the allegation was that the “vehicle owner /driver left the site” – please provide actual photo evidence of this. **

-signage at the site states “ If you leave the site whilst this vehicle remains in the car park you maybe liable to receive a parking charge” - please provide evidence of the site boundary as this is subjective. **

- If the allegation involves an alleged overstay of minutes, your evidence must include the actual grace period agreed by the landowner. If you fail to evidence the actual grace period that applies at this site or suggest that only one period applies, this will be disregarded as an attempt to mislead. In the absence of evidence, it will be reasonably taken to be a minimum of twenty minutes (ten on arrival and ten after parking time) in accordance with the official BPA article by Kelvin Reynolds about 'observation periods' on arrival being additional and separate to a 'grace period' at the end.

- in all cases, you must include a close up actual photograph of the sign you contend was at the location on the material date.

Formal note:
Should you later pursue this charge by way of litigation, note that service of any legal documents by email is expressly disallowed and you are not entitled to assume that the data in this dispute/appeal remains the current address for service in the future.
Yours faithfully,

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Thanks for all you help in advance