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Claimant asking for more than double , and has not made clear how a breach of terms has happened!!

happysue
happysue Posts: 49 Forumite
edited 18 August 2019 at 8:20PM in Parking tickets, fines & parking
Hey all,

So this is a second post In regards to the Defendant getting 2 MCOL in the space of weeks.

This one from Horizon Parking Limited being helped by Gladstone Solicitors.

From writing the first defence, The defendant feels they know what to write in the second one.
However, the Defendant wants to know if any of the experienced members have ever seen a Claim worded like this. With the Total amount being £252.31?

The letter sent before this claim stated that the vehicle was parked in an adult and child bay (Which the Defendant does not deny , as the car had the right to be parked where it was).

However that is not mentioned here below!


“The driver of the vehicle with registration ******* (the ‘vehicle’) parked in breach of the terms of parking stipulated on the signage (the ‘contract’) at the ******on. **/**/16 thus incurring the parking charge (the PCN’). The driver of the Vehicle agreed to pay the PCN within 28 days of issue yet failed to do so. The Claimant claims the unpaid PCN from the Defendant as the driver/keeper of the Vehicle. Despite demands being made, the Defendant has failed to settle their outstanding liability. THE CLAIMANT CLAIMS £80 for the PCN, £70.00 contractual costs pursuant to the Contract and PCN terms and conditions, together with statutory interest of £27.32 pursuant to s69 of the County Courts Act 1984 at 8.00% per annum, continuing at £0.03 per day.”
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  • BrownTrout
    BrownTrout Posts: 2,298 Forumite
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    Yes they ha e
  • BrownTrout
    BrownTrout Posts: 2,298 Forumite
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    Yes they have issued a lot of claims recently via GS for Horizon
    Did you out yourself at any stage as the driver..... Gladstones trying to double the pcn charge...
    Abuse of process comes to mind
  • beamerguy
    beamerguy Posts: 17,587 Forumite
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    edited 18 August 2019 at 7:52PM
    “The driver of the vehicle with registration ******* (the ‘vehicle’) parked in breach of the terms of parking stipulated on the signage (the ‘contract’) at the ******on. **/**/16 thus incurring the parking charge (the PCN’). The driver of the Vehicle agreed to pay the PCN within 28 days of issue yet failed to do so. The Claimant claims the unpaid PCN from the Defendant as the driver/keeper of the Vehicle. Despite demands being made, the Defendant has failed to settle their outstanding liability. THE CLAIMANT CLAIMS £80 for the PCN, £70.00 contractual costs pursuant to the Contract and PCN terms and conditions, together with statutory interest of £27.32 pursuant to s69 of the County Courts Act 1984 at 8.00% per annum, continuing at £0.03 per day.”

    Well YES it's called ...

    THE GREAT GLADSTONES SCAM


    Gladstones by the way, do not have a clue what they are doing, they are just a robo claim inept bunch of rogue traders.
    The £70 is a scam and this is what the courts have said ...
    ""The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the defendant contracted to pay, This additional charge is not recoverable under the protection of freedoms act 2012, Schedule 4"
    READ THIS:-
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=6014081
    READ POST #14 ON THIS THREAD BY COUPON-MAD and copy the text into your defence.
    It's all about getting Gladstones kicked out of court for ABUSE OF PROCESS

    parked in an adult and child bay (Which the Defendant does not deny , as the defendant had the right to do so).

    What age is your child ? Of course you are right

    Gladstones get more stupid as each day goes along.

    PS: THE INTEREST. The question is why did they take so long to bring a claim ? Are they profiteering on the interest together with a fake £70
    Judges dislike scammers and are probably sick to death with the timewasting scams Gladstones bring to court
  • happysue
    happysue Posts: 49 Forumite
    BrownTrout wrote: »
    Yes they have issued a lot of claims recently via GS for Horizon
    Did you out yourself at any stage as the driver..... Gladstones trying to double the pcn charge...
    Abuse of process comes to mind


    The defendant never answered to any letters, or named the driver. They certainly never agreed to pay ANYTHING!
  • happysue
    happysue Posts: 49 Forumite
    beamerguy wrote: »
    “The driver of the vehicle with registration ******* (the ‘vehicle’) parked in breach of the terms of parking stipulated on the signage (the ‘contract’) at the ******on. **/**/16 thus incurring the parking charge (the PCN’). The driver of the Vehicle agreed to pay the PCN within 28 days of issue yet failed to do so. The Claimant claims the unpaid PCN from the Defendant as the driver/keeper of the Vehicle. Despite demands being made, the Defendant has failed to settle their outstanding liability. THE CLAIMANT CLAIMS £80 for the PCN, £70.00 contractual costs pursuant to the Contract and PCN terms and conditions, together with statutory interest of £27.32 pursuant to s69 of the County Courts Act 1984 at 8.00% per annum, continuing at £0.03 per day.”

    Well YES it's called ...

    THE GREAT GLADSTONES SCAM


    Gladstones by the way, do not have a clue what they are doing, they are just a robo claim inept bunch of rogue traders.
    The £70 is a scam and this is what the courts have said ...
    ""The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the defendant contracted to pay, This additional charge is not recoverable under the protection of freedoms act 2012, Schedule 4"
    READ THIS:-
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=6014081
    READ POST #14 ON THIS THREAD BY COUPON-MAD and copy the text into your defence.
    It's all about getting Gladstones kicked out of court for ABUSE OF PROCESS

    parked in an adult and child bay (Which the Defendant does not deny , as the defendant had the right to do so).

    What age is your child ? Of course you are right

    Gladstones get more stupid as each day goes along.

    PS: THE INTEREST. The question is why did they take so long to bring a claim ? Are they profiteering on the interest together with a fake £70
    Judges dislike scammers and are probably sick to death with the timewasting scams Gladstones bring to court

    The age of the children were ages 4 and 8
  • happysue
    happysue Posts: 49 Forumite
    beamerguy wrote: »
    “The driver of the vehicle with registration ******* (the ‘vehicle’) parked in breach of the terms of parking stipulated on the signage (the ‘contract’) at the ******on. **/**/16 thus incurring the parking charge (the PCN’). The driver of the Vehicle agreed to pay the PCN within 28 days of issue yet failed to do so. The Claimant claims the unpaid PCN from the Defendant as the driver/keeper of the Vehicle. Despite demands being made, the Defendant has failed to settle their outstanding liability. THE CLAIMANT CLAIMS £80 for the PCN, £70.00 contractual costs pursuant to the Contract and PCN terms and conditions, together with statutory interest of £27.32 pursuant to s69 of the County Courts Act 1984 at 8.00% per annum, continuing at £0.03 per day.”

    Well YES it's called ...

    THE GREAT GLADSTONES SCAM


    Gladstones by the way, do not have a clue what they are doing, they are just a robo claim inept bunch of rogue traders.
    The £70 is a scam and this is what the courts have said ...
    ""The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the defendant contracted to pay, This additional charge is not recoverable under the protection of freedoms act 2012, Schedule 4"
    READ THIS:-
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=6014081
    READ POST #14 ON THIS THREAD BY COUPON-MAD and copy the text into your defence.
    It's all about getting Gladstones kicked out of court for ABUSE OF PROCESS

    parked in an adult and child bay (Which the Defendant does not deny , as the defendant had the right to do so).

    What age is your child ? Of course you are right

    Gladstones get more stupid as each day goes along.

    PS: THE INTEREST. The question is why did they take so long to bring a claim ? Are they profiteering on the interest together with a fake £70
    Judges dislike scammers and are probably sick to death with the timewasting scams Gladstones bring to court


    Thank you for your help.
  • beamerguy
    beamerguy Posts: 17,587 Forumite
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    happysue wrote: »
    The age of the children were ages 4 and 8

    If that was me, I would be taking the kids to court with you to show the judge you have young children
  • KeithP
    KeithP Posts: 37,584 Forumite
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    happysue wrote: »
    The defendant never answered to any letters, or named the driver. They certainly never agreed to pay ANYTHING!
    I'm not saying that it is right, but they will allege that by parking, the driver agreed to the terms.

    One of those terms will be something like "by parking in contravention of these terms, the driver agrees to pay £xxx within 28 days of receiving a PCN asking for that money".
  • KeithP wrote: »
    I'm not saying that it is right, but they will allege that by parking, the driver agreed to the terms.

    One of those terms will be something like "by parking in contravention of these terms, the driver agrees to pay £xxx within 28 days of receiving a PCN asking for that money".

    only if they have correctly issued the PCN
  • KeithP
    KeithP Posts: 37,584 Forumite
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    only if they have correctly issued the PCN
    Of course. Although that won't stop them alleging the debt. :D
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