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    • kah22
    • By kah22 19th Oct 19, 12:02 AM
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    Re-applying for PIP
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    • 19th Oct 19, 12:02 AM
    Re-applying for PIP 19th Oct 19 at 12:02 AM
    A friend with PTSD and BPD was turned down for PIP and with support followed the appeal procedure through to the Tribunal. The Tribunal awarded her 11points for mobility and 4 points for care, which was really quite surprising. We thought when we looked at the Tribunals decision that the points had went into the wrong box !

    From what I understand if youíve been made no award you can reapply immediately, but whatís the rule if youíve been made an award (Standard Rate Mobility), how long do you have to wait until you can reapply or submit a new claim

    Thanks for any information you can offer

    Kevin
    Politicians have had three votes on Brexit and theyíre looking for a fourth! Why canít we have a second one?
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    • poppy12345
    • By poppy12345 19th Oct 19, 6:41 AM
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    • 19th Oct 19, 6:41 AM
    A friend with PTSD and BPD was turned down for PIP and with support followed the appeal procedure through to the Tribunal. The Tribunal awarded her 11points for mobility and 4 points for care, which was really quite surprising. We thought when we looked at the Tribunals decision that the points had went into the wrong box !

    From what I understand if youíve been made no award you can reapply immediately, but whatís the rule if youíve been made an award (Standard Rate Mobility), how long do you have to wait until you can reapply or submit a new claim

    Thanks for any information you can offer

    Kevin
    Originally posted by kah22
    They can't submit a new claim because they already have an award in place. What they need to do is report a change of circumstances for a worsening condition. Do be aware that by doing this they risk losing everything they already have.
    • kah22
    • By kah22 19th Oct 19, 1:40 PM
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    • 19th Oct 19, 1:40 PM
    I.thought that might have been the case and I do understand the bit about loosing everything.

    Personally I think it would be a big gamble, for to be honest I can’t see why they give her mobility, unless, of course, it was a ploy to insure she didn’t immediately submit another claim. She has an asthma condition, and that could be the reason)
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    • poppy12345
    • By poppy12345 19th Oct 19, 3:08 PM
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    • 19th Oct 19, 3:08 PM
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    • 19th Oct 19, 3:08 PM
    I canít see why they give her mobility, unless, of course, it was a ploy to insure she didnít immediately submit another claim. She has an asthma condition, and that could be the reason)
    Originally posted by kah22

    It would not have been a ploy as they were awarded by a Tribunal who are totally independent to DWP and the health assessment providers.



    Whether or not they are entitled to any daily living award will totally depend how their conditions affect them because PIP isn't awarded based on any diagnosis.
    • kah22
    • By kah22 19th Oct 19, 11:19 PM
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    • 19th Oct 19, 11:19 PM
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    • 19th Oct 19, 11:19 PM
    Yes I see what you are saying about the tribunals decision. I hadn’t thought of that. Tell me though can she say that her care needs have changed and request that only that section of the award be looked at?

    Anyway I’ll leave it to my friend to make up her own mind in association with her local Advice Centre I’m just gathering information on what can and can’t be done
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    • micky2phones
    • By micky2phones 19th Oct 19, 11:26 PM
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    • 19th Oct 19, 11:26 PM
    Hi, no they look at the whole award not just one part.
    • Alice Holt
    • By Alice Holt 20th Oct 19, 9:46 AM
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    • 20th Oct 19, 9:46 AM
    I’ll leave it to my friend to make up her own mind in association with her local Advice Centre. I’m just gathering info...
    Originally posted by kah22
    Good plan.

    Did she write to the TS to request a statement of reasons?
    That's an obvious first step (if still within the time limits), and is explained in her decision notice
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    • kah22
    • By kah22 20th Oct 19, 2:09 PM
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    • 20th Oct 19, 2:09 PM
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    • 20th Oct 19, 2:09 PM
    Yes she has requested SOR and is waiting on it to arrive.

    After she receives the SOR it will be up to her and her representative to decide what is the best course of action. I’m staying away from that.

    All I’m doing at the moment is finding out what potential avenues are open to her, and giving her some general advice and support
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    • poppy12345
    • By poppy12345 20th Oct 19, 2:18 PM
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    • 20th Oct 19, 2:18 PM
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    • 20th Oct 19, 2:18 PM
    Yes she has requested SOR and is waiting on it to arrive.

    After she receives the SOR it will be up to her and her representative to decide what is the best course of action. Iím staying away from that.
    Originally posted by kah22
    She won't be able to appeal the decision unless an error in law is found. If it's not found then her only option is reporting a worsening of condition, as advised.
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