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    • letiss7
    • By letiss7 12th Jun 19, 12:38 PM
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    Setting up a 2nd SSID on same router.
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    • 12th Jun 19, 12:38 PM
    Setting up a 2nd SSID on same router. 12th Jun 19 at 12:38 PM
    Hi,


    I would like to restrict access to certain devices on my home network from guests but keep access open to the family.
    I'm happy for the guests to connect to wifi and use the internet.
    I have a Sky router which is around 3 years old.


    If I setup a 2nd SSID with a different password on the router and then gave the guests that information to connect would that achieve what I want?


    Is there anything I need to watch out for?


    All my devices would remain connected to my current SSID.


    Thanks in advance.
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    • Neil Jones
    • By Neil Jones 12th Jun 19, 1:01 PM
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    Pretty much, yes.

    Remember that it will not change the amount of bandwidth available which will still be shared with your family devices.
    • letiss7
    • By letiss7 12th Jun 19, 2:42 PM
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    • 12th Jun 19, 2:42 PM
    Thank you for the reply, looks like i'm heading in the right direction.
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    • molerat
    • By molerat 12th Jun 19, 4:28 PM
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    • 12th Jun 19, 4:28 PM
    Is the Sky router capable of that ? If it is a dual band then maybe but I don't think setting up a guest network is possible.
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    • AndyPix
    • By AndyPix 12th Jun 19, 5:16 PM
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    • 12th Jun 19, 5:16 PM
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    • 12th Jun 19, 5:16 PM
    Even if you could, they would both have access to the same network anyway, unless you set up a vlan
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    • letiss7
    • By letiss7 13th Jun 19, 8:34 AM
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    • 13th Jun 19, 8:34 AM
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    • 13th Jun 19, 8:34 AM
    Thanks.


    Is the Sky router capable of that ? If it is a dual band then maybe but I don't think setting up a guest network is possible.
    Originally posted by molerat


    I'm not sure, that is why I mentioned it was a Sky router.
    I will try it this weekend and report back.
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    • letiss7
    • By letiss7 13th Jun 19, 8:41 AM
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    Even if you could, they would both have access to the same network anyway, unless you set up a vlan
    Originally posted by AndyPix


    I am hoping that the fact that the guests are connected to a different SSID and the devices I want to 'hide' are on another SSID means they won't be visible. I also plan to stop broadcasting the SSID we use in the family.


    I'll see what what is visible after the weekend.
    Thanks for the reply.
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    • stragglebod
    • By stragglebod 13th Jun 19, 9:04 AM
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    • 13th Jun 19, 9:04 AM
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    • 13th Jun 19, 9:04 AM
    My Sky Q router is from March this year and doesn't support guest networks.


    Some powerlan adapters support wifi rebroadcast, I know TP-Link have a model that allows you to create a guest network, not sure if it it can be configured to only allow internet but not network access.
    • stragglebod
    • By stragglebod 13th Jun 19, 9:06 AM
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    • 13th Jun 19, 9:06 AM
    Or buy another router that does, and figure out how to configure it with the Sky settings
    • The Fat Controller
    • By The Fat Controller 13th Jun 19, 9:08 AM
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    What devices are you trying to "hide" ?

    Even if you connect via different SSIDs, visiblity of network devices like the router interface and NAS drives will not change.
    • GunJack
    • By GunJack 13th Jun 19, 9:39 AM
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    If you've got an old router lying around, use this for your guest network...ethernet cable from sky router into old router, a few settings changed in old router (turn off DHCP, and set up the wifi network) and away you go
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    • letiss7
    • By letiss7 13th Jun 19, 9:45 AM
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    Thank you all for the replies.


    There seem to be many more options than I had considered so I'll give them a go this weekend starting with the simplest
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    • AndyPix
    • By AndyPix 13th Jun 19, 10:30 AM
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    I am hoping that the fact that the guests are connected to a different SSID and the devices I want to 'hide' are on another SSID means they won't be visible.
    .
    Originally posted by letiss7

    No it doesn't work like that
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    • letiss7
    • By letiss7 24th Jun 19, 12:28 PM
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    Thank you to all that replied.
    I attempted to setup a second SSID on the my Sky router and there is no option to do that as someone mentioned in one of the replies.
    I then tried to attach an old router I had and get that to work but due to my lack of knowledge and time I couldn't get that to work either.


    However whilst looking at other options I found a away of restricting access to one of the devices as any new client wishing to use it has to be authorised by the admin, ie me.
    The other one they can access as a guest and only be able to view so I don't have a problem with that.
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    • rhysadams
    • By rhysadams 26th Jun 19, 8:47 AM
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    I've got a Draytek Router that I purchased off eBay. It allows me to have 4 different SSID's all with different settings.


    eg. SSID 1 - We use this for all the main devices and has access to the internet, password

    SSID 2 - Guest network, no access to network, unrestricted bandwidth, password

    SSID 3 - Kids Network, has list of safe sites, restricted bandwidth and no access to network, password

    SSID 4 - Guest Network, no access to network, restricted bandwidth, no password


    The settings are immense! It has VPN availability and you can plug in a 4G modem to spread the bandwidth and increase the speed slightly.


    Well worth the 50.00
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