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    • MandM90
    • By MandM90 28th Nov 18, 1:34 PM
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    The Prepping Thread - A Newer Beginning ;)
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    • 28th Nov 18, 1:34 PM
    The Prepping Thread - A Newer Beginning ;) 28th Nov 18 at 1:34 PM
    Thanks to fuddle for helping to keep your lovely thread safe from the spam gremlins by starting a new one. I've unstuck the old one, link below...

    This will be the PREPPING thread inspired by this long running thread

    and the second one which can be found here

    Votes took place here on what this thread is designed primarily for outcome was as follows....

    54% One thread please politics or not - all prep chat welcome
    11.29% Two threads - one Brexit based politics welcome, one general life based, preferred no politics
    19.35% One thread, no politics please, this is OS
    14.52% I don't honestly mind

    So with these differing opinions, please bear this in mind and enjoy the thread Be respectful and enjoy the community. I really hope everyone's happy with the outcome. I tried to be as fair as I could.

    Let's not forget the intermittent prepping thread

    Guidelines

    * All posters are welcome. This thread doesn't "belong" to anyone (not even me )

    * Please be nice to all moneysavers

    * Let's all draw a line in the sand and move on from previous threads and disagreements etc

    * Would love to see new people joining in here and existing posters who have gone quiet for whatever reason

    EVERYONE IS WELCOME

    Enjoy the new thread Ladels and Jellyspoons. I've made this a sticky to ensure it gets a great start and lots of contribution.

    ZIP

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    • DigForVictory
    • By DigForVictory 17th Jun 19, 1:42 PM
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    Given my chaps' bullheaded fanaticism for strawberry jam, I suspect I'll be doubling up the certo & carrying on.

    The tiny wild strawberries which pack such a glorious punch for their size may also be added to lend a strawberry flavoured verisimilitude. Just I'll have to get to them before the lads or the birds do.
    • MingVase
    • By MingVase 17th Jun 19, 1:56 PM
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    I've got loads of these growing wild all over my front garden, lovely!
    • thriftwizard
    • By thriftwizard 17th Jun 19, 3:30 PM
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    I've found rather a good substitute for Certo - found a box of 2017 crab apple jelly hiding in the garage, which has been "superseded" by last year's batch. So I tried tipping a small jar into my Strawberry, Lime & Elderflower jam, which set fairly quickly (17 jars!) and have done the same to some cherry jam this morning.

    I was given (for free!) a massive bag of ripe cherries "for the chickens" at the market yesterday & it was a bit of a race to use/preserve them before they went over. About a quarter (damaged) went straight out to the chickens & wild birds, a litre went off with DS2's beloved, a tray (at least another litre) went into the freezer, 350g went into a batch of cherry & mascarpone ice-cream, and the rest got en-jammed this morning. It will take a week to get the juice out from under my fingernails... but that's better than black walnut!

    Hoping to declutter the garage over the next few weeks, then set up some shelves at the more-accessible end to store extra preserves - visibly! - & the equipment, which currently just gets stuffed into any spare corner and is occasionally found being used for nefarious purposes; Him Indoors is still shuddering after being found using my best brewing bucket for pond water, complete with tadpoles. I'd still like to get my hands on the "developer" who tore down the larder in 1987...
    Last edited by thriftwizard; 17-06-2019 at 3:33 PM.
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    • MrsLurcherwalker
    • By MrsLurcherwalker 17th Jun 19, 4:28 PM
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    Blimey D for V that's a million dollar word for this time of day! his nibbleswick doesn't do strawberries in any shape or form, or cucumber and it's taken me nearly half a century to get him to eat chicken and 'green things' that aren't peas and as for bones in meat, he's even been heard to comment that a T Bone steak has got 'a bloomin bone in it!'( all in the name perhaps?) and he didn't do fish until he got me either so I've educated the little blighter to a certain degree and life is healthier than it used to be in the sustenance department.

    A discovery today which has me most relieved is that we have looked on the map and found the source of the brook that runs outside the house across the road is actually a 'spring' up in the hills and has footpath access from just up our road all the way to it, possibly a couple of miles away but in extremesis I have the clean water source needed for drinking water, we live and learn playmates, we live and learn!
    You've always had the power my dear, you just had to learn it for yourself!

    Ours is not to wonder what is fair in life but finding what may be, make it up fair to our needs.
    • DigForVictory
    • By DigForVictory 17th Jun 19, 4:30 PM
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    Mrs LW, in a way I am relieved to hear there is another bloke who is an obstinate so & so on matters like chicken. And impressed that he's been educated into better ways...

    Cherries? Blimey thriftwizard that's Fate saying Sorry about the larder! Have you heard of Nostradamus' cherry jam recipe? Hacked out of the original French (Dear Heavens) it does indeed make "To do Jelly of Cherryes that is so Clear & Vermillion like a fine Rubey, & of Goodness, Taste & Virtue Excellent, that the Cherryes will Preserve Long in Perfection without adding anything but the Fruit: & will be fit to present to a King for their Supreme Excellence" However noone's translated that recently so I refer you to the other one, "Another Way to make Jelly of Cherryes, that is more Delicate than the First but it is more Dear & is for Great Lords " which uses less sugar & is still sensational to eye & tongue!

    If you next find yourself donated a batch of cherries, this is something to try. If only for the colour & the bragging rights on the label, but it does taste amazing too.

    "for the chickens" - I must definitely come & visit....
    • DigForVictory
    • By DigForVictory 18th Jun 19, 5:09 PM
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    Had a second try at rhubarb cordial, this time with granulated sugar, lump root ginger & a proper straining muslin & the results are a tasteful & expensive-looking pink. (Unlike the previous batch that looked unnervingly like the output from a postoperative drain [but tasted fine].)

    I'll have to figure how to ship a bottle down to my mother, so we can sit in whatever sunshine the fates provide & sip Rhubarb Bellinis, albeit it with soda for me... I have to say it's much nicer than the rhubarb of my primary school memories & there are still stalks, albeit lurid green, in the garden. (Advice Mrs LW? Will they turn pink eventually, or should I shroud them in something lightproof?) It's the BBC recipe I used, and thus very nearly idiot proof.

    Should you still have rhubarb & a nasty sense of humour in Autumn, the Halloween version uses light brown muscovado sugar, ground ginger, a couple of easy peel clementines but above all you strain it through a sieve & no fabric, so it develops a more intimidating thickness. And foams to produce a dense head in a pint glass as you add sparkling water...
    • MrsLurcherwalker
    • By MrsLurcherwalker 18th Jun 19, 7:09 PM
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    Depends on the variety D for V, some of them are naturally pink and some age and get pinker but the cordial seems always to turn pink regardless of the variety of rhubarb. If you exclude the light it will blanch and just get lighter.


    If you want to keep the cordial for a period of time it needs sterilising in a water bath, deep pan, bottles in on a cloth and not touching each other cover fully with water (right over the lids, corks), bring the water slowly to a simmer and keep it there for at least an hour. remove the bottles carefully while they're hot and dry them completely and seal the corks with melted candle wax. This will ensure they don't ferment in storage but it's fiddly and time consuming. Depending on how far the journey to mum takes a far easier way to transport the cordial is to freeze it solid and insulate that very well in a couple of cloths in a cool bag with some frozen blocks and transport it that way (you have to use plastic bottles if you're freezing it not glass and leave an expansion space at the neck of the bottle) it should stay frozen and no danger of leakage. At the end of the journey when it defrosts for your bellinis keep what's left in the fridge and it will last 6 weeks or as long as the alcohol holds out!
    You've always had the power my dear, you just had to learn it for yourself!

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    • DigForVictory
    • By DigForVictory 19th Jun 19, 9:05 AM
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    <takes notes on water bath technique for Batch 3 with an eye on Christmas>

    Meanwhile must find freezerpacks to ship to mum. Or just take the day off & a train, & plan to combine her plus lit airy space for album photo!

    Thanks to teaching Scouts to shoot (target faces only) I am gradually getting more accurate myself but I'm not certain how transferable the skill is at our short range. Still, hoping to add sports crossbow to the instructor trained list, so get more practice targeting...
    • DigForVictory
    • By DigForVictory 22nd Jun 19, 6:29 PM
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    Have to say while batch 2 is prettier, it lacks the two by four flavour of batch 1. Hmm, version 1 for me, version 2 for Christmas I think.

    Offspring sighted in the front garden just munching sorrel & coaching mate in identification & sharing the fun. Splendid - teaching hungry teenage lads to forage is time well spent. Plus, if they prefer sorrel to the tiny wild strawberries, we'll get jam...
    • thriftwizard
    • By thriftwizard 22nd Jun 19, 8:57 PM
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    I just made a batch of jam with a 2 tray (12 punnets) of "official" jam strawberries from the market, and it reached setting point in minutes! I did throw in a handful of redcurrants from the garden, but I doubt that there were enough to make a difference, pectin-wise. These strawbs were small, some mis-shapen, some dark & quite hard, but fantastically tasty & you could smell them clear down the hallway, at the opposite end of the house to the kitchen! Couldn't resist also making a batch of ice-cream with them & saving some for Eton Mess tomorrow - I made meringues with some egg whites left over from a batch of Straciatella.

    I'll ask the stallholder tomorrow whether they are a special breed, or just ones the supermarket buyers have rejected at the docks. If they are produced deliberately, it's well worth seeking them out.
    Angie

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    • DigForVictory
    • By DigForVictory 23rd Jun 19, 9:48 AM
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    Just a thought. Amidst all your canned goods, do you have a spare can opener? It can be the "butterfly" thing, or the "punch & scrunch" bit of wiggly tin or even the (terrifying) tiny foldout blade as found with Army rations & even sold for camping.

    Just do you have a spare you can operate? Perhaps along with the spare key for the corned beef (and I'd have a pack of sticky plasters handy to that, or require absolute monastic silence as I focus on the job - a mate not unreasonably calls the open can, lid or strip as all "sharp enough to do his own appendectomy".)

    Just a thought.
    • thriftwizard
    • By thriftwizard 23rd Jun 19, 4:02 PM
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    Yes. And a bottle-opener - absolutely essential!
    Angie

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    • GreyQueen
    • By GreyQueen 23rd Jun 19, 5:57 PM
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    Yes. And a bottle-opener - absolutely essential!
    Originally posted by thriftwizard
    I was camping three weeks ago and was able to save the evening off a nice middle-aged couple who'd left their corkscrew behind, all thanks to my trusty SAK.


    *wanders off singing Be Prepared by Tom Lehrer*
    Every increased possession loads us with a new weariness.
    John Ruskin
    Veni, vidi, eradici
    (I came, I saw, I kondo'd)

    • DigForVictory
    • By DigForVictory 23rd Jun 19, 6:40 PM
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    *wanders off singing Be Prepared by Tom Lehrer*
    Originally posted by GreyQueen
    I love the Tomfoolery stage lyrics too:
    Be prepared, if you harbor any qualms
    Be prepared, for this foolery of Tom's
    Our theatrical integrity we've totally disgraced
    And we think that you will find it all in questionable taste
    Every possible expense was clearly spared, Be Prepared...


    Oh gods, the family are on for an evening of Lehrer's greatest hits, as hummed by me, now.

    Mind you, to hear him on Scouts has me absolutely weak with laughter "those noble little bas-tions of decency whose internationally famous motto might well serve as a warning to you all..."

    I must also check where my Swiss Army Knife is. (Tin opener, bottle opener & solid blade lest I have to make my own meals.)
    • jk0
    • By jk0 25th Jun 19, 9:26 PM
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    Is anyone else being plagued with moths this year?


    For about two months, I've had tiny 1cm moths bugging me every day, then for the last week I've had two or three big moths sitting on doorframes to greet me every morning.


    I've been through all my linen to disturb any grubs, but they still seem to be appearing somehow.


    Any thoughts?
    • GreyQueen
    • By GreyQueen 26th Jun 19, 6:33 AM
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    Hi, jk0, have you tried googling them to get an ID? The little ones might not be clothes moths, they might be pantry pests (check dried goods inc flours carefully). The big ones will have just blundered in from outdoors and would ideally be gently ushered out again, if possible.


    Also worth double-checking absolutely everywhere you have textiles, including carpets and rugs, unless the same are 100% petroleum by-products and this will involve moving furniture. There has been a very recent Gu@rdian article about this very matter. HTH.
    Every increased possession loads us with a new weariness.
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    • PipneyJane
    • By PipneyJane 26th Jun 19, 7:58 AM
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    Is anyone else being plagued with moths this year?


    For about two months, I've had tiny 1cm moths bugging me every day, then for the last week I've had two or three big moths sitting on doorframes to greet me every morning.


    I've been through all my linen to disturb any grubs, but they still seem to be appearing somehow.


    Any thoughts?
    Originally posted by jk0
    May I second what GQ just posted? I had an infestation of clothes moths two years ago and it turned out they were breeding in an old piece of carpet that a previous owner of our house had used to line a wardrobe (and then promptly built shelving on/through, so it can't be removed). I doused it with Moth Stop from Lakeland. If there is a next time, I'll attack with my steamer first

    In the meantime, and as a preventative measure, we have a moth trap in the bedroom. I change the sticky pad every April because they're only effective in the spring/breeding season.

    Like you, though, I've noticed more small moths downstairs than usual, so I've added another moth trap in the lounge. It doesn't appear to have caught anything, unlike the bedroom trap.

    I'm taking precautions, too. I am a knitter with a big stash. All my yarn is stored in zip-lock bags and those are then placed in lidded plastic boxes. Our bed linen is stored in a large lidded plastic box and the towels are in an old cedar lined cupboard. I make sure that the lids are on tight and the cupboard doors are closed. I've got cedar rings over the hooks on all the coat hangers in the wardrobe - bought from Lidl IIRC - and cedar blocks scattered through the knitwear drawers.

    HTH

    - Pip (Begone Enemy of Wool!)
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    • DigForVictory
    • By DigForVictory 26th Jun 19, 12:54 PM
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    Mrs LW you are happily guiding my parents footsteps astray! I made the Rhubarb Cordial & took a bottle down to see them. They tried it with soda & approved, but had never heard of a Rhubarb Bellini.
    Baby sis (who was most peeved at missing out) has offered to bring the Prosecco if she can try a Rhubarb Bellini, so I'm hoping today will include new and exciting times, once the sun's over the yardarm.

    <ambles off to croon the the rhubarb plant which should produce the stalks for batch #3 for which I am gradually acquiring bottles to wax seal>

    Pausing briefly to covet PipneyJane's cedar lined cupboard...
    • PipneyJane
    • By PipneyJane 27th Jun 19, 8:23 AM
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    Pausing briefly to covet PipneyJane's cedar lined cupboard...
    Originally posted by DigForVictory
    I think it's cedar lined, based on the smell but I could be wrong. It's a 1940's Utility-style dresser, with two drawers and a cupboard underneath, that cost 10 in a charity shop. It was perfect for what we needed, a cupboard to sit in the bathroom and hold towels. My husband refinished it - it was varnished - and painted it white. The original handles were beyond repair so we swapped them for wooden knobs.

    I will swear it has CC41 markings on the back but it hasn't been moved for years.


    - Pip
    "Be the type of woman that when you get out of bed in the morning, the devil says 'Oh crap. She's up.' "

    C.R.A.P R.O.L.L.Z. #47 Official Brain Harvesting Body Counter
    • DigForVictory
    • By DigForVictory 27th Jun 19, 8:51 PM
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    CC41’s Utility alright - what a find!

    Little prepping reminder - don’t forget your packed lunch & if you do, buy something & eat Anyway. As I have had a car bump that I might have avoided had I eaten in the previous 10 hours.
    So, next time that shop sandwich looks stupid expensive & not very lovely - think of your car damaged in a stupid expensive & not very lovely way...

    I’m fine, but my ego is dented!
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