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    • zippychick
    • By zippychick 26th Nov 14, 10:48 AM
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    Preparing for Winter V
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    • 26th Nov 14, 10:48 AM
    Preparing for Winter V 26th Nov 14 at 10:48 AM

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    Hi everyone,

    As the last 'preparing for winter' thread has now grown quite long, I think it's time for a new one, and what better time of year to begin to prepare than the end of November

    So here goes....a shiny new thread. Please post below all your preparations for winter. If you want to read through the tips on the older threads you can find them here:

    Preparing for Winter

    Preparing for winter II

    Preparing for winter III

    Preparing for winter IV

    Other links that may help:

    the ice man cometh! (merged with keeping warm)

    Things that worked or didn't work last winter

    Frugal but happy in winter?

    Winter checklist

    Lets hope it's a good one for all of us.

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    • pattypan4
    • By pattypan4 13th Jun 19, 3:14 PM
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    LP my plumber showed me how to raise the pressure to max 1.5. He said that he gets a lot of callouts because of low pressure. Have a twiddle with the knobs under the boiler, you will hear water flowing in straight away, if you don`t then just reverse your attempt at whatever knob you twiddle. I did mine this week and suddenly the ch worked
    • pattypan4
    • By pattypan4 13th Jun 19, 3:24 PM
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    I finally decided I would be brave enough to learn how to use my new stove, bearing in mind that I have never used a stove that needs manual adjusting. It is brand new, so I sat and I read then I tried using firelighters and kindling. First attempt did not work at all, the log remained unburnt but I had not made a pyramid. Second attempt was with that one log laid horizontal, never worked. Then I built a pyramid and laid 2 more logs all vertical over the pyramid and they caught and smouldered and raised the stove temperature and I almost had a panic because there were these fumes coming off from betweem the door and outer casing. The air filter went into overdrive and I opened several windows, wafted the smoke to me and it was obviously not woodsmoke. Then I remembered about tempering the paint and that is what it was. Logs smouldered for ages, air filter went off and then I opened the air intake and airwash and it leapt into flames. I did not want it too hot, for the paint. Another 2 goes should see it right for winter


    So I am not enamoured of logs so far, will definitely be using some smokeless eggs and the peat. I quickly learned to change air intake etc so not scared any more. I didn`t like the start, when I had to keep the door open a bit for a few moments. I could smell the horrible stench of firelighters. Once gone,will never be bought again and nor the kindling, which spat all over the place. I have bitten the bullet and ordered an electric firelighter. I will get the cost back, eventually


    Anyway I enjoyed the experience
    • mumf
    • By mumf 13th Jun 19, 6:33 PM
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    I finally decided I would be brave enough to learn how to use my new stove, bearing in mind that I have never used a stove that needs manual adjusting. It is brand new, so I sat and I read then I tried using firelighters and kindling. First attempt did not work at all, the log remained unburnt but I had not made a pyramid. Second attempt was with that one log laid horizontal, never worked. Then I built a pyramid and laid 2 more logs all vertical over the pyramid and they caught and smouldered and raised the stove temperature and I almost had a panic because there were these fumes coming off from betweem the door and outer casing. The air filter went into overdrive and I opened several windows, wafted the smoke to me and it was obviously not woodsmoke. Then I remembered about tempering the paint and that is what it was. Logs smouldered for ages, air filter went off and then I opened the air intake and airwash and it leapt into flames. I did not want it too hot, for the paint. Another 2 goes should see it right for winter


    So I am not enamoured of logs so far, will definitely be using some smokeless eggs and the peat. I quickly learned to change air intake etc so not scared any more. I didn`t like the start, when I had to keep the door open a bit for a few moments. I could smell the horrible stench of firelighters. Once gone,will never be bought again and nor the kindling, which spat all over the place. I have bitten the bullet and ordered an electric firelighter. I will get the cost back, eventually


    Anyway I enjoyed the experience
    Originally posted by pattypan4
    Light the paper/ firelighters,and add some kindling.Let it burn.add a little more kindling.Let it burn,let the fire BREATHE.Open the vents and let it ROAR!Don't put a log on yet,chuck on something a little bigger than the kindling,and let it BURN.When it is really up the chimney and pulling,put one log on.Let it burn.When that is pulling put on another.You should have a fire going in 3 minutes and no more.Youmight want to close the vents now.

    You cannot just light kindling and add a pyramid of logs.
    • pattypan4
    • By pattypan4 13th Jun 19, 6:53 PM
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    Thanks. Yes lots to learn
    • caronc
    • By caronc 13th Jun 19, 7:04 PM
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    I use wood wool firelighters like these https://www.logs2u.co.uk/twizler-wood-wool-firelighters-300g.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIoobGwpHn4gIVaL7tCh38UA klEAQYAyABEgJTtvD_BwE , they work really well and aren't smelly nor very expensive.

    • pattypan4
    • By pattypan4 14th Jun 19, 5:24 AM
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    Thanks caronc. The fire went down to just a very small glow and then it went out but the stove itself stayed warm for a long time and that makes it very efficient in my house. It was such a comfortable warmth that I dozed and still slept 7 hours last night. I felt de-stressed tbh. It was not anonymous and neutral like the ch. Anyway, later I will get another bag of those ash logs, so that I have a good reserve in my garage. I am looking forward to using the peat briquettes later in time and will add to those and will bring home 4 bags of smokeless eggs. I can get anthracite briquettes from the farmers shop, they are 8.99 for 20kg and don`t seem any different to homefire smokeless eggs but trial and error. I did not like the kindling, made from pine or similar, spat a lot and the lighters but both easily sorted. Another learning trial run when the weather is grim.



    I re-read the instructions last night, it says to use firelighters, build an airy pyramid with logs and kindling over the lighters, put more firelighters on top to warm the flue. I agree with mumf about the log arrangement. Need to wack the air flow up to highest to stop any smoke blow back. A learning curve, glass is a bit dirty today but I never controlled the air wash properly, more concerned about the paint curing temperature
    • Laura_Elsewhere
    • By Laura_Elsewhere 14th Jun 19, 6:36 AM
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    A small plea, but... maybe if you can keep the peat for special occasions when you particularly want to enjoy the smell... a peat landscape takes two or three thousand years to form, and then it gets put into window-boxes, hanging baskets and wood-burners...! It's not the most quickly replaced of landscapes
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    • MrsLurcherwalker
    • By MrsLurcherwalker 14th Jun 19, 7:34 AM
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    Our stove which has a wood only fire bed also says to build a pyramid over some paper and a fire lighter and it took weeks of smoky non starting fires before we realised that technique just won't work. We use LOTS of paper scrunched up over ash from the last fire, light kindling on top and then a few slightly thicker sticks on top of that , have the air vent wide open and light the paper, if you're using a fire lighter put it somewhere on top of the paper under the kindling, when the fire has flared and the larger kindling is well and truly lit add a light log and close the door, wait until that is well away and add another and gradually increase the size of log you add until the fire is truly burning properly then close the air flow vent to where the fire will burn without flaring and flaming wildly. Then be warm and comfortable.
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    • pattypan4
    • By pattypan4 14th Jun 19, 12:23 PM
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    Peat is natural, does not give off vapours like flying machines. I love peat always use peat compost and no-one will tell me not to use peat, which is local to me. My local peat specialist store is always crowded with local people and from further away. I am now off to get more briquettes and some compost. Please don`t tell me what to do. Btw I hardly use plastic, never fly and don`t drive far



    Thanks mrs lurcherwalker
    • katiepants
    • By katiepants 14th Jun 19, 12:58 PM
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    Peat is natural, does not give off vapours like flying machines. I love peat always use peat compost and no-one will tell me not to use peat, which is local to me. My local peat specialist store is always crowded with local people and from further away. I am now off to get more briquettes and some compost. Please don`t tell me what to do. Btw I hardly use plastic, never fly and don`t drive far
    Originally posted by pattypan4
    I hate to burst your bubble but...

    https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn13034-peatland-destruction-is-releasing-vast-amounts-of-co2/

    https://www.iucn.org/resources/issues-briefs/peatlands-and-climate-change
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    • pattypan4
    • By pattypan4 15th Jun 19, 6:03 AM
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    lol, you are not bursting any bubble dear katiepants. You do what you want to do and I do what I want to do. I don`t dictate to other people, no-one will dictate to me.

    I am well stocked up for winter now, loaded the car boot, I see much has already been sold. Very compact, takes up very little room along the wall in the garage. Got enough for a good 90 days so far, will get some more in a couple of weeks and it will keep indefinitely. Takes up far less room than the logs
    • pattypan4
    • By pattypan4 15th Jun 19, 3:11 PM
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    I am still thinking of prepping for winter, just in case it gets very snowy and icy out and in case the electric goes off, which will knock the gas ch off. I won`t want to be walking on icy blockwork so am planning for indoor fuel storage. Just been to sainsburys with a bag for life, which looks to me as though it would be ideal to store 3 briquettes inside each. So in the downstairs cloaks, behind the sofa and in a large pouffe. Natural waxed firelighters in the pouffe and long matches handy. Briquettes stored and opened in these bags, so no mess on the floor.

    Also a reasonable quantity of easy meals. Clothes are no problem, nor is insulation. Any of us who lived/survived through very bad winters will know where I am coming from. Snow will eventually melt but could take 6-8 weeks as in 2010. I went outside my front door last year, the other house and ended flat on my derriere, luckily on soft snow. Will not risk that again, here will be even more slippy especially the short hop to the garage
    • MrsLurcherwalker
    • By MrsLurcherwalker 16th Jun 19, 7:46 AM
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    I don't know about just preparing for winter, the way this dismal summer is panning out it's Preparing for the whole year round. I have the thought every morning when I wake up that this is a ridiculous situation in June to be still under a quilt, 3 fleece blankets and last night my dressing gown too! My summer clothes are still packed away in the storage boxes under the bed and I'm wearing more layers each day as it just feels cold, damp and miserable.....Oh to be in England now that summer is here?' I rather think not!
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    • FrankieM
    • By FrankieM 16th Jun 19, 8:10 AM
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    I've had to put my heating on...I can't get my washing dry without it!

    And I'm comfort eating and spending a fortune on takeaways.

    This 'summer' is costing me a fortune!
    • Primrose
    • By Primrose 16th Jun 19, 8:13 AM
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    Yes, it's really depressing isn't it? In between all the rain we've had some sunshine and periods of humidity which of course has triggered tomato blight warnings so I have visions of losing my crop this year. I rely on my tomatoes to provide winter stocks of tomato purree for my cold weather soups and casseroles.

    Our heating is still on and I'm walking around in the same old boring winter sweaters and fleeces. I do so long for some warm sunshine on my back and those enjoyable summer meals outside in the garden where we can imagine ourselves in Mediterranean climes without the cost or the hassle of having to travel there!

    As I type its drizzling with rain and my plants outdoors are looking as miserable as I feel. I feel sorry for the poor bees as they clamber i to the dripping wet foxgloves in search of food.
    • MrsLurcherwalker
    • By MrsLurcherwalker 16th Jun 19, 8:15 AM
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    I'd settle for being able to leave the house without a raincoat on!
    You've always had the power my dear, you just had to learn it for yourself!

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    • lessonlearned
    • By lessonlearned 16th Jun 19, 9:50 AM
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    It's truly awful isn't it. I ventured out into the garden whilst we had a little window of dry weather and tackled some of the weeds.

    The bottom half of the garden is flooded, hope it doesn't kill all my new trees and shrubs..... And my new cherry tree is covered in black fly.

    I don't like using pesticides but in desperation I sprayed it. An hour later it chucked it down so that was a waste of time. As soon as I get the chance I think I will just have to remove the worst covered leaves and then try a soapy water spray. My mum swore by that.

    Seeing as I have been forced to spend so much time indoors I have been doing some decluttering.....so at least doing something productive.

    But like so many of us I feel in desperate need of some warm sunshine, my poor aching joints and muscles have had enough.
    • Pooky
    • By Pooky 16th Jun 19, 11:37 AM
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    As a summer hater (can not stand heat and have an allergy to the sun which leaves me wanting to rip my skin off after even a minute outside) I'm enjoying this year's offerings.

    We will be moving in a few weeks time and our new property has a back boiler and immersion tank that we plan to have removed before winter sets in. Will have a stove installed at the same time as the chimney breast will need work after the back boiler is removed. We also need to put it all new windows and doors as they are currently 1980's double glazing which isn't very effective (or pretty). These jobs are the highest on our priority list for this year as I want to know we are warm and draft free to hunker down for winter.

    Luckily the very mature garden will supply us with a good few years burning material once I've managed to get it under control and it's dried out. There's 3 large for trees there too which were awash with pine cones when we visited last week. They'll make fab fire lighters.
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    • pattypan4
    • By pattypan4 18th Jun 19, 8:38 AM
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    more rain, dismal again, midsummer in 3 days. Arghh I am sometimes taking a paracetamol at night, the joints ache in this weather. I was in and out yesterday trying to get washing dry outdoors. Bad state of affairs this time of the year. Sorry about the garden flooding mrs Lurcherwalker, new plants and all. Hope it sorts itself out

    I did the third stove seasoning session yesterday and am having great success in lighting. Only used 2 small logs as the main fuel on each lighting because it says slow and steady for seasoning. I decided that I might as well get on with it because I have to keep a window and patio door slightly open to get rid of paint smell. Next session can be full fire and I hope I can hang on to october
    • LadyhavershamLost
    • By LadyhavershamLost 19th Jun 19, 5:57 AM
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    Was incredibly gloomy here in Berkshire last evening - lit a few candles and sorted the woolly hat & glove box! It was definitely required.

    I need some decent boots for winter - I don't drive so need something warm , waterproof and quite smart - I work in a school.
    Budget of 100... any recommendations folks?

    Thanks !
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