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    • Kiko4564
    • By Kiko4564 8th May 19, 8:28 PM
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    Issued a Bylaw 13 letter by the BTP
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    • 8th May 19, 8:28 PM
    Issued a Bylaw 13 letter by the BTP 8th May 19 at 8:28 PM
    Can you please advise me if the following warning letter issued by a Sergeant based at BTP's Police office in Norwich Railway Station actually has any lawful validity or is it just a load of tripe? If it is valid can you help me challenge it please?

    5th April 2019

    (Full name and address removed)

    Dear Mr Potter

    I am writing to you in regards to your recent behaviour at Norwich Rail (sic) Station where you have been seen loitering resulting in a large amount of intelligence being gathered.. (sic) This letter is to advise you that it is against the railway byelaws to loiter or remain at a railway station when asked to leave by an authorised person. This is contrary to byelaw 13(2) and 24 of the Railway Byelaws made under Section 219 of the Transport Act 2000 by the Strategic Railway Authority and confirmed under schedule 20 of the Transport Act 2000, as amended by Section 46 of the Railways Act 2005
    The definition of an authorised person includes any constable acting in the execution of their duties upon or in connection with the railway.
    This letter is to advise you that the only reason for you to be at a station is to purchase a ticket or to travel on the next available service. If for any reason you are not doing either or you do not board the next available service then you will be liable to prosecution. This letter serves as direction for you to not remain on the railway unless it is for the above reasons.
    Furthermore you are aware you are not permitted to film whilst on the railway without written permission. This also includes filming parts of the rail network and people using it as it will constitute further offences under the railway byelaws.
    Should you continue to breach the byelaws then as well as prosecution we will seek to apply banning conditions against you on the rail network.

    Yours Sincerely

    [REDACTED]
    Norwich BTP

    British Transport Police

    British Transport Police
    Norwich Train Station
    Station Approach
    Norwich NR1 1EG

    (DX contact details removed)

    Tel: 0800 40 50 40

    A copy of Railway Bylaw 13 and part of Bylaw 25 (1) which highlights the definition of an "authorised person" is then provided.

    This letter now raises the question of validity given that the spirit of Railway Bylaw 13 (2) appears to be to allow an authorised person to remove someone loitering on the railway for a short amount of time (not to exceed 24 hours) by requiring that they leave the premises.
    Last edited by Kiko4564; 08-05-2019 at 9:58 PM.
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    • Hasbeen
    • By Hasbeen 19th May 19, 4:50 PM
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    Hasbeen
    I know the perfect prison for the OP if they get sentenced again, it's this one
    Originally posted by MothballsWallet
    Would never happen here though.

    The majority of the current generation would melt.
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