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    • Former MSE Helen
    • By Former MSE Helen 26th Mar 12, 9:21 AM
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    MSE News: Petrol prices hit record high
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    • 26th Mar 12, 9:21 AM
    MSE News: Petrol prices hit record high 26th Mar 12 at 9:21 AM
    This is the discussion thread for the following MSE News Story:

    "The average price at the pumps reached 140.20p per litre at the end of last week, with diesel at a new record of 146.72p..."

    Read the full story:
    Petrol prices hit record high


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    • runninglea
    • By runninglea 26th Mar 12, 9:32 AM
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    • 26th Mar 12, 9:32 AM
    I saw diesel at £1.499 at our local BP this morning - couldnt believe it!
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    • attila_
    • By attila_ 26th Mar 12, 9:45 AM
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    • 26th Mar 12, 9:45 AM
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    • 26th Mar 12, 9:45 AM
    Why does MSE feel the need to start these discussion forums? Who does it help? We already know the bloody fuel is going up, what would you like us to do about it?

    I thought this forum was a place where people can help and offer advice. I feel these posts started by MSE are just there to fuel angry posters to get the hit rates up. Pretty appauling if you ask me.
    • colino
    • By colino 26th Mar 12, 9:46 AM
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    • 26th Mar 12, 9:46 AM
    As we still measure and mark our roads and speedometers in miles, don't you think, as an aggressively oil taxed nation, the long-term reason we started selling fuel in litres was to take the wind out of rising fuel costs? £1.402/l is bad enough, but if the pump went in to "real money" mode = £6.38/gallon, you would faint!
    • akh43
    • By akh43 26th Mar 12, 9:55 AM
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    • 26th Mar 12, 9:55 AM
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    • 26th Mar 12, 9:55 AM
    I dont understand why the garages are allowed to price at impossible prices, ie £1.42.7 a litre - how can they charge you .7 of a pence, isnt this illegal as there is no such price, is the petrol any cheaper than £1.42.9 or £1.43 - just brings garages with prices like this to the top of the cheapest prices on petrol prices?

    You never see pricing like this in the shops so how can garages still use it?
    • custardy
    • By custardy 26th Mar 12, 10:03 AM
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    • 26th Mar 12, 10:03 AM
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    • 26th Mar 12, 10:03 AM
    I dont understand why the garages are allowed to price at impossible prices, ie £1.42.7 a litre - how can they charge you .7 of a pence, isnt this illegal as there is no such price, is the petrol any cheaper than £1.42.9 or £1.43 - just brings garages with prices like this to the top of the cheapest prices on petrol prices?

    You never see pricing like this in the shops so how can garages still use it?
    Originally posted by akh43
    but they arent chaging that
    the pumps charge in amounts that are payable
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    • 26th Mar 12, 10:20 AM
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    • 26th Mar 12, 10:20 AM
    No no no Just no

    I don't know how else to express my concern and frustration about the way fuel prices are going. We live in a village. We moved here so my partner could walk to work (the only job available after 8 months of applying for many but luckily its a good one), meaning the car is used as little as possible anyway, but journey costs are soon going to make visiting my mother or the supermarket a definate lifestyle choice instead of normality.
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    • nifferwilko
    • By nifferwilko 26th Mar 12, 10:47 AM
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    • 26th Mar 12, 10:47 AM
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    • 26th Mar 12, 10:47 AM
    I'm a relatively new driver (passed my test in November, car bought December) and I'm sure I've seen the petrol prices increase every week since.

    It seems like an easy source of revenue for the Government, as people won't give up their cars. It's very easy for people to say take public transport, but that's becoming increasingly impossible. The reason I had to learn to drive (at 28 - after using public transport for years) is because the local bus company got rid of my bus to work. I was very happy to use public transport - in fact I prefer it as I'm an avid reader - but I can't. So I either accept that I have to pay these prices for petrol, or become unemployed. To me, that doesn't seem like a dilemma that people should have to face.

    I'm quite lucky in one way, as my company subsidise a bus route which means I can get free travel on that route. It does mean I would still need to drive to one of the stops, but it would make my daily journey around 13 miles instead of 32. So if it gets really bad, I can at least do that, but some people won't have the option.
    • consumers_revenge
    • By consumers_revenge 26th Mar 12, 11:23 AM
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    • 26th Mar 12, 11:23 AM
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    • 26th Mar 12, 11:23 AM
    The Govt are missing the big picture here by taxing the petrol.

    Used to be even up to 12-18 months ago we would go for a drive to the seaside every other weekend ( anywhere from 55-90 miles away ) buy some dinner in the local pubs, spend some cash in the local shops etc....

    Cant afford to do that no more...Take a picnic up to the local green area instead, 10 mins away.

    Now who loses out?

    Retailers, shop owners, garages etc etc..... All of which will be paying tax to same said government. They cant have it both ways.

    Motorist are way to easy targets....
    • Petef
    • By Petef 26th Mar 12, 11:43 AM
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    The only way that we (the general public) will make any difference to the price of fuel is if we all Act 'en mass' and protest together at the same time. However, that needs someone to put their head up above the wall to organise and the rest to back them up. Unfortunately, that will never happen (in my mind) people will just put up with it and carry on moaning about the cost because it's easier that way.
    • whatmichaelsays
    • By whatmichaelsays 26th Mar 12, 11:55 AM
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    The only way that we (the general public) will make any difference to the price of fuel is if we all Act 'en mass' and protest together at the same time. However, that needs someone to put their head up above the wall to organise and the rest to back them up. Unfortunately, that will never happen (in my mind) people will just put up with it and carry on moaning about the cost because it's easier that way.
    Originally posted by Petef
    When are you organising the protest for then? Just so you know, I can't do Tuesdays.
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    • TrickyWicky
    • By TrickyWicky 26th Mar 12, 11:56 AM
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    The Govt are missing the big picture here by taxing the petrol.

    Used to be even up to 12-18 months ago we would go for a drive to the seaside every other weekend ( anywhere from 55-90 miles away ) buy some dinner in the local pubs, spend some cash in the local shops etc....

    Cant afford to do that no more...Take a picnic up to the local green area instead, 10 mins away.

    Now who loses out?

    Retailers, shop owners, garages etc etc..... All of which will be paying tax to same said government. They cant have it both ways.

    Motorist are way to easy targets....
    Originally posted by consumers_revenge
    You're missing the sickening big picture my friend.

    The government are missing nothing. To them this is actually a very clever little scam that works nicely.
    • They feed their craving for power over people
    • They strain the nation to breaking point
    • Businesses go to the wall
    • HMRC have less customers to deal with
      • HMRC have less staff requirements (they're paid more than the CSA / DWP staff so its a saving)
    • Government still gets its guaranteed income
    • Government can then start contracting out work to other cheaper countries because all of our manufacturers hit the wall (in the same way they're trying to destroy Bombardier so they can use external cheaper train makers)
    You still think they're being stupid? They've been at least 3 steps ahead of us the entire time. They know that fuel increases are crippling the economy and thats exactly what they want.
  • Premier
    It's all about supply and demand.

    And when the pumps start running dry next month because the tanker drivers are going on strike, just watch that demand.

    People will be queueing up for hours to pay any price asked ...
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    • iolanthe07
    • By iolanthe07 26th Mar 12, 4:03 PM
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    You're missing the sickening big picture my friend.

    The government are missing nothing. To them this is actually a very clever little scam that works nicely.
    Originally posted by TrickyWicky

    • They feed their craving for power over people
    • They strain the nation to breaking point
    • Businesses go to the wall
    • HMRC have less customers to deal with
      • HMRC have less staff requirements (they're paid more than the CSA / DWP staff so its a saving)
    • Government still gets its guaranteed income
    • Government can then start contracting out work to other cheaper countries because all of our manufacturers hit the wall (in the same way they're trying to destroy Bombardier so they can use external cheaper train makers)
    You still think they're being stupid? They've been at least 3 steps ahead of us the entire time. They know that fuel increases are crippling the economy and thats exactly what they want.
    Originally posted by TrickyWicky


    Can I have some of whatever you're on, please?
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    • worried jim
    • By worried jim 26th Mar 12, 4:18 PM
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    Finite resource goes up in price as more and more people use it and there becomes less of it- who'd have thought.............
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    • Gordon the Moron
    • By Gordon the Moron 26th Mar 12, 5:34 PM
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    I dont understand why the garages are allowed to price at impossible prices, ie £1.42.7 a litre - how can they charge you .7 of a pence, isnt this illegal as there is no such price, is the petrol any cheaper than £1.42.9 or £1.43 - just brings garages with prices like this to the top of the cheapest prices on petrol prices?

    You never see pricing like this in the shops so how can garages still use it?
    Originally posted by akh43
    Yes it is cheaper at 149.9 per litre than 150 per litre unless you buy exactly 1 litre. The total amount is rounded to the nearest penny. 100 litres @ 149.99 is £149.99 and 100 litres at 150 is £150.

    This has been discussed before on here whether it should be banned, if you think it through then no no no no no no no!

    Firstly even with prices in whole pence you still need to round to the nearest penny. If fuel was £1 per litre (I wish!) and I buy 0.995 litres of it, are they going to charge me 99.5p for it?

    Secondly now we've established you aren't saving anything by making prices whole pence, since they usually end in .9 if you banned the practice do you seriously think any garage would round down and not up!
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  • Dave_C
    Just days after the chancellor refused to cancel the planned August rise, prices have now hit another painful barrier for Britain's hard-pressed motorists
    It can't be just me thinking that the chancellor has done this deliberately so that he can cancel the planned August rise at the last minute and look to be on the side of the motorist.

    Of course the gullible British public will fall for this hook line and sinker , just as we did a few months back.

    Dave
    • TrickyWicky
    • By TrickyWicky 26th Mar 12, 9:22 PM
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    I think the fuel strike scenario has been carefully constructed to be honest. They know people will panic buy which will allow the price to shoot up further (without coming back down of course).
  • Premier
    It's all about supply and demand.

    And when the pumps start running dry next month because the tanker drivers are going on strike, just watch that demand.

    People will be queueing up for hours to pay any price asked ...
    Originally posted by Premier

    Wow, it's already started:
    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=3874017

    Particularly this post:
    Yes, my local station had no petrol yesterday, so I drove to the next one and it did, and no queue, but was 143,9 p. I filled up with that and then drove to that town centre (where I can buy other things cheaper than in my own town, to off-set the cost of driving) and passed one more station that had no fuel and one that had long queues. It's all very well to say 'Don't panic buy', but sorry you've got to as everyone else is.

    I've now filled up (I probably would have filled up at this level anyway) and won't use the car if I can avoid it, and will keep it filled at half-full.

    I prefer to call it 'pragmatic' rather than 'selfish, mindless, idiocy'.
    Originally posted by Jennifer_Jane
    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.php?p=52090213&postcount=10
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