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    MissKitty
    MPGS - What's it Like??
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    • 10th Jan 12, 9:28 PM
    MPGS - What's it Like?? 10th Jan 12 at 9:28 PM
    Hi all

    Someone in my family is just about to leave the army after 24 years service and is thinking about joining the Military Provist Guard Service (MPGS).

    I was wondering if there is any ex soldiers out there that are currently in the MPGS that could pass on a bit of advice.

    The starting pay is only 18,237.48 so quiet a drop from SNCO levels.
    How quick is it to get through the ranks and what's the job like? has anyone else found it hard leaving the army and taking such a big pay cut? I know my family member has a pension to top up the pay so that helps a bit.

    Does anyone have any experience of how long it takes APC Glasgow to get through your application and hopefully offer you a job?

    Any advice for my family member would be appreciated.
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  • Jud546
    Thanks for the update Jud546, that's brilliant news, I'm really pleased for you.

    Good luck when you start, hope it all goes well, keep us all up to date.
    Originally posted by MissKitty
    Thank you MissKitty,

    I will make sure I let you know more when I do. It took about 5 mths from application to being made an offer- so hopefully your hubby will hear something soon. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.
  • Sionnachdubh
    Hello All

    Thanks for all the info' on here. I'm a Navy reservist of around 10 years with around 22 months operational mobilisation time. I like the service life, which was primarily force protection, but cutbacks meant our mobilisations were suspended owing to a manpower glut in the regular service. I've tried to get FTRS, but same applies. So I applied to MPGS last August and found the application process tedious, but when considered against the alternative, my wife and I decided that it offers quite a bit of security in a currently messed up job/financial/economy world which wasn't of regular folks' making.

    It is taking a while, the proverbial "Standby, standby to hurry up and wait" but we're of the mind that the benefits outweigh the negative aspects, my reserve specialisation has a host of parallels with the role, so I'm sure that if and when I get accepted, it won't be too taxing although I'd like advancement if it's available. If I could have my time over, I'd consider HMF as a full-time career, but I left it too late age wise and only managed to get under the wire just before TELIC kicked off, spending some quality time with a mixed RE,RM,RN billet in Basra in 2004. That said I'm still putting in 10:19 for my last fitness test. ;-)

    The AFCO has now contacted me with a DPA release form to request my service info' from Portsmouth and although it does seem to be taking an age, it is progressing. Hope you all hear from Glasgow favourably soon.

    Sionnachdubh
  • mrskezza
    Posting
    Good News for you! Where are you being posted? I put my app in middle of March. Got told this week that there is a new guy at Glasgow and if any of your paper work is wrong he is ending it back to the AFCO's right left and centre. Whether i belive this or not. It could just be an excuse for a mess up at the AFCO.

    I now have to get a medical done at my docs as i have been out just over a year so received paper work yest they are doing it today for me at my local med centre so hopefully shouldnt delay things much more.

    I have put in dorset, oxford and cornwall as i don't really want to stay local so open to options but don't want to put anywhere and end up in fife.

    I think it does take about 6 - 9 months to process depending on location choices.

    The AFCO even said to me this week did i want to join back up as i only did 10 years and im under 30 but do i really want to do phase 1 again ummmmm no!

    Keep us updated

    Just heard from my AFCO yesterday that I start at the end of the month at my second choice station. Thats obviously good news for me, but it also shows that the wheels are turning, albeit slowly at first but when the offer is made you can be in pretty quickly. So hang in there everyone and good luck. I will update when I hear further.
    Originally posted by Jud546
  • mrskezza
    Bore
    Thanks for this but i got bored reasing the first couple of lines of this. There is no way your application will be advanced!!

    Hello All

    Thanks for all the info' on here. I'm a Navy reservist of around 10 years with around 22 months operational mobilisation time. I like the service life, which was primarily force protection, but cutbacks meant our mobilisations were suspended owing to a manpower glut in the regular service. I've tried to get FTRS, but same applies. So I applied to MPGS last August and found the application process tedious, but when considered against the alternative, my wife and I decided that it offers quite a bit of security in a currently messed up job/financial/economy world which wasn't of regular folks' making.

    It is taking a while, the proverbial "Standby, standby to hurry up and wait" but we're of the mind that the benefits outweigh the negative aspects, my reserve specialisation has a host of parallels with the role, so I'm sure that if and when I get accepted, it won't be too taxing although I'd like advancement if it's available. If I could have my time over, I'd consider HMF as a full-time career, but I left it too late age wise and only managed to get under the wire just before TELIC kicked off, spending some quality time with a mixed RE,RM,RN billet in Basra in 2004. That said I'm still putting in 10:19 for my last fitness test. ;-)

    The AFCO has now contacted me with a DPA release form to request my service info' from Portsmouth and although it does seem to be taking an age, it is progressing. Hope you all hear from Glasgow favourably soon.

    Sionnachdubh
    Originally posted by Sionnachdubh
  • Jud546
    Mrskezza,

    I'm posted to Cosford,a priority site, which was my second choice-so I can't complain. From start to finish I waited 5-6 mths, so hopefully those of you who have been waiting a similar time should be hearing something soon.
    I haven't heard anything further from the AFCO yet, so I shall be giving them a call tomorrow to start final arrangements. I shouldn't need a medical as been out less than a year and it hasn't been mentioned even though I've already been given my date to start.
  • Jud546
    Thanks for this but i got bored reasing the first couple of lines of this. There is no way your application will be advanced!!
    Originally posted by mrskezza
    Lol, harsh but fair comment-I nodded off once or twice reading it too
  • mrskezza
    Hey
    Yea all three sites i have put are priority so hopefully i won't have to wait much longer it's just a big waiting game which is the annoying thing.

    Mrskezza,

    I'm posted to Cosford,a priority site, which was my second choice-so I can't complain. From start to finish I waited 5-6 mths, so hopefully those of you who have been waiting a similar time should be hearing something soon.
    I haven't heard anything further from the AFCO yet, so I shall be giving them a call tomorrow to start final arrangements. I shouldn't need a medical as been out less than a year and it hasn't been mentioned even though I've already been given my date to start.
    Originally posted by Jud546
  • Jud546
    Called the AFCO this morning, I have to dust a suit off to attest/swear allegiance on Wednesday next week and start the following Monday. I'll update again when it's all done and in the meantime the very best of luck to the rest of you waiting for news.
  • MissKitty
    Called the AFCO this morning, I have to dust a suit off to attest/swear allegiance on Wednesday next week and start the following Monday. I'll update again when it's all done and in the meantime the very best of luck to the rest of you waiting for news.
    Originally posted by Jud546
    That's great, it sounds like it's all systems go for you now. It's also peace of mind to know you have a secure job till your 55. Hope it goes well.

    We're still waiting, hubby is calling AFCO once a month just to check they haven't forgotten him. He is still doing the agency work so at least if he gets into MPGS he will be able to move quickly.

    Whats everyone else doing for work, anything interesting?
  • Jud546
    That's great, it sounds like it's all systems go for you now. It's also peace of mind to know you have a secure job till your 55. Hope it goes well.

    We're still waiting, hubby is calling AFCO once a month just to check they haven't forgotten him. He is still doing the agency work so at least if he gets into MPGS he will be able to move quickly.

    Whats everyone else doing for work, anything interesting?
    Originally posted by MissKitty
    Thanks, hopefully your hubby won't be waiting much longer if he has been waiting a similar time to me. What units/ area are you both after? If they are priority sites it might make the difference to how long you wait.
  • MissKitty
    Thanks, hopefully your hubby won't be waiting much longer if he has been waiting a similar time to me. What units/ area are you both after? If they are priority sites it might make the difference to how long you wait.
    Originally posted by Jud546
    He applied in January but didn't leave the army till the middle of April. We're looking for anywhere in Suffolk as a first choice then Essex as a second. I'm not sure if there are any priority sites in those regions?

    Hubby and I were just talking today and wondering if he went to his AFCO and said he would go anywhere just to get in would it speed up the process?

    It would mean him living in a single block and we only see him when we can, as we own/live in our own home so not looking for a quarter. Not what we really want but we have been doing that for the last 3 years of his career anyway so it's not new to us.
  • geord925
    Update
    Called Careers office 2 weeks ago, told the same old story... they aint heard anything. Managed to get work as a door supervisor for the olympics in london or newcastle through GS4. So hopefully will have a few months work to tide me over
  • Jud546
    He applied in January but didn't leave the army till the middle of April. We're looking for anywhere in Suffolk as a first choice then Essex as a second. I'm not sure if there are any priority sites in those regions?

    Hubby and I were just talking today and wondering if he went to his AFCO and said he would go anywhere just to get in would it speed up the process?

    It would mean him living in a single block and we only see him when we can, as we own/live in our own home so not looking for a quarter. Not what we really want but we have been doing that for the last 3 years of his career anyway so it's not new to us.
    Originally posted by MissKitty
    Have you looked at the mpgs recruitment page? On the right-hand side is a link to a table of available units, unfortunately they haven't updated it since January. If you've not seen it before at least it might give you an idea.

    Here's the address for the page:

    Www.army.Mod.uk/agc/provost/1242.aspx
  • Jud546
    Oh, and here's a link for the locations page:

    Www.army.mod.uk/agc/provost/2291.aspx

    A quick look shows RAF Honnington and Wattisham as both being priority sites in Suffolk and Honnington having vacancies, so fingers crossed you get that one.
    Last edited by Jud546; 12-06-2012 at 8:29 PM.
  • mrskezza
    postings
    Im guessing they have taken his application from when he left i.e. start processing it from April as they don't normally start the ball rolling until you have left.

    I have put down dorset, oxford and wiltshire which are all priority sites according to the spreadsheet but who knows. Now though because my medical has expired by nhs doc has had to do a new medical again which i have to send back to glasgow and they also need another copy of my leavers cert. Im starting to think this is abit of a joke as they should already have all this information.

    Im going in the AFCO Thursday so will see what they say this time. I normally ring them every 3 weeks not that they can do alot but least i am nagging.

    I have found not a bad job on civi street but will prob get laid off after xmas so just looking to join mpgs for abit of security and all the benefits you get with being in the army.



    He applied in January but didn't leave the army till the middle of April. We're looking for anywhere in Suffolk as a first choice then Essex as a second. I'm not sure if there are any priority sites in those regions?

    Hubby and I were just talking today and wondering if he went to his AFCO and said he would go anywhere just to get in would it speed up the process?

    It would mean him living in a single block and we only see him when we can, as we own/live in our own home so not looking for a quarter. Not what we really want but we have been doing that for the last 3 years of his career anyway so it's not new to us.
    Originally posted by MissKitty
  • MissKitty
    Called Careers office 2 weeks ago, told the same old story... they aint heard anything. Managed to get work as a door supervisor for the olympics in london or newcastle through GS4. So hopefully will have a few months work to tide me over
    Originally posted by geord925
    Good luck with your Olympics job, hope it all goes well.

    I cant believe how tough it is for such decent people with an army background to get a half decent job. It may take many years for things to get better on the job front, so hang on guys and girls something good will come up eventually.
  • MissKitty
    Oh, and here's a link for the locations page:

    Www.army.mod.uk/agc/provost/2291.aspx

    A quick look shows RAF Honnington and Wattisham as both being priority sites in Suffolk and Honnington having vacancies, so fingers crossed you get that one.
    Originally posted by Jud546
    Thanks so much for posting your links JUD546, they are much appreciated.

    I have seen them before but they may be useful to others on here. The only problem is they haven't updated them since January so you don't know if the situation is still the same.

    It's just a waiting game now.

    Just think of those few people in Glasgow who have to process the mountain of applications for the MPGS, it's probably never ending and might get even worse with all these redundancies going on. It will keep them busy for a few years to come!!
  • mrskezza
    I got in..... well nearly
    Went AFCO today to hand in my medical as i have just been just over a year and Glasgow have requested a new medical. Turns out that they requested a new medical because they offered me a posting and my AFCO emailed them back saying i wouldn't be interested in that posting without even asking!!!!

    I'm not happy at all!!

    He just assumed i wouldn't be interested as i didn't put that location down. The location in question is just down the road from me so i would of taken it so now he has emailed them to ask them if it's still available and if so i will take it.

    It's ridiculous!! In the past week i have been asked by them whether i want to re join the army not the MPGS and today was whether i wanted to do the TA aswell as the MPGS as apprantly you can do that?!

    It's turning into a joke!

    I will await a response but i will be giving them weekly calls now not monthly.
  • Jud546
    Mrskezza,

    Strewth mate, not a lot I can say to that. Seems like whoever is supposed to be looking after you at the AFCO is an incompetent buffoon. How long ago did he turn that offer down on your behalf?
    I understand your anger, but Unfortunately I don't think there's a lot you can do about it other than voice your frustration and keep closer tabs on them. Fingers crossed for you that you get a decent closure on it sooner rather than later. Good luck.
  • mrskezza
    Hit or miss
    He turned it down last week so who knows just have to wait until next week now.

    Mrskezza,

    Strewth mate, not a lot I can say to that. Seems like whoever is supposed to be looking after you at the AFCO is an incompetent buffoon. How long ago did he turn that offer down on your behalf?
    I understand your anger, but Unfortunately I don't think there's a lot you can do about it other than voice your frustration and keep closer tabs on them. Fingers crossed for you that you get a decent closure on it sooner rather than later. Good luck.
    Originally posted by Jud546
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