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  • Yorkshireman99
    Yorkshireman99 Posts: 5,470 Forumite
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    You should definitely get her to do a LPA, should could also give you powers to act for her in regard to your fathers estate with a separate POA.
    The latter is not AFAIK possible. Executors must act in person.
  • Robin9
    Robin9 Posts: 12,103 Forumite
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    I presume your mother could decline to be executor at any time.

    Is there a procedure whereby you can legally be made executor in advance of your father's death - even if he does not want it ?
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  • Yorkshireman99
    Yorkshireman99 Posts: 5,470 Forumite
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    Robin9 wrote: »
    I presume your mother could decline to be executor at any time.

    Is there a procedure whereby you can legally be made executor in advance of your father's death - even if he does not want it ?
    No. A will has no legal force until the moment the testator dies.
  • Keep_pedalling
    Keep_pedalling Posts: 16,626 Forumite
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    The latter is not AFAIK possible. Executors must act in person.

    If you look at section 3.7 of the PA1 form, reason E for not applying is that:-

    Power of attorney: they will appoint another person to act as their
    attorney to take a Grant of Representation on their behalf.
  • Yorkshireman99
    Yorkshireman99 Posts: 5,470 Forumite
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    If you look at section 3.7 of the PA1 form, reason E for not applying is that:-

    Power of attorney: they will appoint another person to act as their
    attorney to take a Grant of Representation on their behalf.
    Noted but that a LPOA does not allow it.
  • Keep_pedalling
    Keep_pedalling Posts: 16,626 Forumite
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    Noted but that a LPOA does not allow it.

    Correct, which is why I suggested getting a separate POA for that specific purpose. It can’t be done in advance though.
  • Yorkshireman99
    Yorkshireman99 Posts: 5,470 Forumite
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    Correct, which is why I suggested getting a separate POA for that specific purpose. It can’t be done in advance though.
    Thank you. I see what you are getting at. It still seems messy to me. I can.t see any advantage of this over plain renunciation when the time comes or have missed something?
  • laroc
    laroc Posts: 79 Forumite
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    Rich2808:-I found this renunciation form online - presumably she can just complete and sign this with me named as the other (substitute) executor and submit this to our local probate registry and then I can act as executor?

    You say "with me named as the other executor" I have the renunciation form, but nowhere does it mention naming a replacement executor.
    So whats the procedure for nominating another executor ?
    How is this achieved, this has got me stumped ?
  • Rich2808
    Rich2808 Posts: 1,332 Forumite
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    laroc wrote: »
    Rich2808:-I found this renunciation form online - presumably she can just complete and sign this with me named as the other (substitute) executor and submit this to our local probate registry and then I can act as executor?

    You say "with me named as the other executor" I have the renunciation form, but nowhere does it mention naming a replacement executor.
    So whats the procedure for nominating another executor ?
    How is this achieved, this has got me stumped ?

    I am in a slightly different situation as the will names my mother as executor but if she declines or is unable or fails to act then I become the executor. So I am named in the will as a substitute - if she renounces.

    Its obviously different in your case if there is no other named executor bar your mother. In that case if she renounced another beneficiary could take over - if there is no other beneficiary then it gets more complicated.
  • laroc
    laroc Posts: 79 Forumite
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    Rich2808

    Thanks very much, that make sense now
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