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    • PlayingHardball
    • By PlayingHardball 26th May 09, 6:40 PM
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    REMO-Reciprocal Enforcement of Maintenance Order
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    • 26th May 09, 6:40 PM
    REMO-Reciprocal Enforcement of Maintenance Order 26th May 09 at 6:40 PM
    Hi all, has anyone got an ex who has moved to another country and stopped supporting their child, as in my case? My ex had been payinig through CSA for 5 years, suddenly got a job in Germany and now CSA can't do anything as he no longer resides here. My question is, has anyone out there gone the route I'm going with a REMO via the courts and been successful? I haven't had a payment since last June and the effect on my daughter has been significant, to say the least. Oh...and him? Well, he is still enjoying short breaks in his house in the south of france, nice one eh? Unfortunately for the ex-I'm not a quitter and am treating this as my 'newest hobby'.
    It would be great to hear a success story! Cheers everyone!
    Last edited by PlayingHardball; 16-01-2010 at 2:30 PM.
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    • Angrymum
    • By Angrymum 23rd Apr 17, 8:09 AM
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    Hi I'm new to this but was recently told by the reforming csa that my ex who has never paid me a penny currently owes me 26000 and that I should start the process by contacting Remo . I know my ex lives and works in the Isle of Man and earns a very good wage and our two kids are now grown up one of them working , at first I thought , no Iv struggled all these years without the money why bother , but then 26000 !!!! So I have looked up this site , is it worth all the hassle ?if I start this will it go on for years with no return apart from anguish on my behalf ? WHAT DO I DO ?
    • CakeCrusader
    • By CakeCrusader 24th Apr 17, 7:25 PM
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    Hi I'm new to this but was recently told by the reforming csa that my ex who has never paid me a penny currently owes me 26000 and that I should start the process by contacting Remo . I know my ex lives and works in the Isle of Man and earns a very good wage and our two kids are now grown up one of them working , at first I thought , no Iv struggled all these years without the money why bother , but then 26000 !!!! So I have looked up this site , is it worth all the hassle ?if I start this will it go on for years with no return apart from anguish on my behalf ? WHAT DO I DO ?
    Originally posted by Angrymum
    Hi, Angrymum.

    The problem you have, is that the Isle of Mann, although governed by UK Law, it doesn't come under the jurisdiction of the CSA/CMS. Were the arrears from a Court Order, or from an order issued by the CSA?

    All of the info and contact details that you need are here; https://formfinder.hmctsformfinder.justice.gov.uk/remo020-eng.pdf

    The Maintenance Enforcement Centre in Suffolk is incredibly slow, just to warn you. 26k is a lot of money, but there is a chance that you'll never see this so I wouldn't invest too much time and effort into it, if this makes sense (my ex owes me 5k and counting and I've spent 3 years waiting for the Maintenance Enforcement Centre to enforce the order, and I'm still waiting). It's worth a try though, unless it could drive you up the wall in the mean time.
    • Loveandlight
    • By Loveandlight 12th May 17, 12:15 PM
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    Thought I'd document my journey here. Just sent initial enquiry form (simply opens an account for you) to the bury office, they inform me they're currently processing forms from 20th Feb 2017. Slooooowww and I imagine from reading here it'll only get slower.

    NRP in France. Probably won't share address etc.
    • CakeCrusader
    • By CakeCrusader 16th May 17, 11:22 PM
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    Thought I'd document my journey here. Just sent initial enquiry form (simply opens an account for you) to the bury office, they inform me they're currently processing forms from 20th Feb 2017. Slooooowww and I imagine from reading here it'll only get slower.

    NRP in France. Probably won't share address etc.
    Originally posted by Loveandlight
    Complaining gets things moving, I've noticed. Mine was sent for enforcement last week, it's only taken the 3 years.
    • jaidenslot
    • By jaidenslot 28th Jun 17, 2:51 PM
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    Unsure of where to start!
    I don't have anything to do with my ex and he has avoided paying for his 3 children for what seems since the dinosaurs became extinct! and now I'm not sure if he is working offshore or not.

    While trying to convince me to accept 10 instead of the 28 a week payment that I received through 4 months of deductions of earnings I received last year he told me that he was hoping to work offshore in Norway. Payments stopped and I managed to get hold of him over facebook messenger(before he blocked me) and I was told he was working away and wouldn't be paying anything as I had my chance to have 10 a week!

    Anyway now I'm at a loss what to do before giving up and admitting defeat! I'm not entirely sure hes actually working offshore as he isn't known for his truth telling and if he is I've no idea how to go about finding out where(might not be Norway) and what to do.

    If I contact cms will they just close my case if I tell them I think he's working offshore or will they need proof? they haven't been able to trace him for 6 months so I suppose he maybe but he has a criminal record so not convinced.
    If he is working offshore is that classed as living and working abroad even if he lives with his girlfriend when hes on his days, weeks off?
    So after advice as really don't know where to start and if worth actually starting lol
    I don't even know where he lives just a general area!
    • kay123#
    • By kay123# 28th Sep 17, 1:40 PM
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    Hi Everybody!

    I'm in South Africa trying to get maintenance out of the UK. I've already received correspondence from 'Bury'. Unfortunately the whole process has taken over a year through the various diplomatic channels. They are now requesting a 'maintenance certificate'? I have sent a copy of my divorce decree which is an 'Order' of the high court. It clearly outlines details for maintenance payable which is a set amount and thereafter contributions to medical aid schooling sport etc. Recovery of maintenance is for 'cash' portion according to the correspondence. Surely an 'Order of the High Court' is above all other doc's. Please help...also am I able to approach UK directly since I now have a Ref. no.? Thank you!
    • CakeCrusader
    • By CakeCrusader 29th Sep 17, 10:18 PM
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    Hi Everybody!

    I'm in South Africa trying to get maintenance out of the UK. I've already received correspondence from 'Bury'. Unfortunately the whole process has taken over a year through the various diplomatic channels. They are now requesting a 'maintenance certificate'? I have sent a copy of my divorce decree which is an 'Order' of the high court. It clearly outlines details for maintenance payable which is a set amount and thereafter contributions to medical aid schooling sport etc. Recovery of maintenance is for 'cash' portion according to the correspondence. Surely an 'Order of the High Court' is above all other doc's. Please help...also am I able to approach UK directly since I now have a Ref. no.? Thank you!
    Originally posted by kay123#

    Hi, Kay. When they say a 'certificate' what they really mean is that they want you to let them know what the arrears are, and how much your ex owes you. All you need to do is write a letter or an email, giving dates of the payments and the amounts, with the total at the bottom, e.g;

    1st Jan 2017 - paid 0 medical aid, paid 0 schooling. Outstanding 200.00
    1st Feb 2017 - paid 0 medical aid, paid 0 schooling. outstanding 200.00

    Total amount outstanding - 400.00

    The order from your court won't necessarily have this information on it, it will just say that your ex is supposed to pay X per month until X date. You should be able to approach the UK court directly, but they are very, very slow. I hope this helps. Best of luck!
    • flossy123
    • By flossy123 17th Jan 18, 12:15 PM
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    I'm having the same problems my sons father is Spanish I have a Spanish court order, he is supposed to give me 300e pcm, but ive never had a penny
    this has been going on about 10 years now my son is 15 but I'm still on at them but just feel like I'm banging my head against a brick wall
    • Kagsy
    • By Kagsy 22nd May 18, 11:16 AM
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    Help please! I'm really confused!
    In my case I have moved to Spain with my youngest child. My daughter is in Uni and I support her. My middle son is in UK finishing his A'Levels and lives with his dad.
    We had a CSA agreement in place but that fell to pieces when I moved as my expartner refused to pay a penny towards the two I am supporting. I pay all flights for the children so they have contact with both parents - he refuses to pay a penny for anything. Would the REMO process still apply to me as the partner who moved to another country? And if so where do I start?!? Do I have to go through Spainsh courts first?
    • CakeCrusader
    • By CakeCrusader 23rd May 18, 12:25 AM
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    Help please! I'm really confused!
    In my case I have moved to Spain with my youngest child. My daughter is in Uni and I support her. My middle son is in UK finishing his A'Levels and lives with his dad.
    We had a CSA agreement in place but that fell to pieces when I moved as my expartner refused to pay a penny towards the two I am supporting. I pay all flights for the children so they have contact with both parents - he refuses to pay a penny for anything. Would the REMO process still apply to me as the partner who moved to another country? And if so where do I start?!? Do I have to go through Spainsh courts first?
    Originally posted by Kagsy

    You're applying for it on behalf of your child, so you'd need to get in touch with the court where you are (so Spain). A REMO still applies, it's basically one country on a list enforcing maintenance orders made in a second country on the list, so it works both ways. You need to contact your local court and fill the forms in so they can make an order there. They will send them to the UK for enforcement.



    Hope this helps!
    • CakeCrusader
    • By CakeCrusader 23rd May 18, 12:28 AM
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    I'm having the same problems my sons father is Spanish I have a Spanish court order, he is supposed to give me 300e pcm, but ive never had a penny
    this has been going on about 10 years now my son is 15 but I'm still on at them but just feel like I'm banging my head against a brick wall
    Originally posted by flossy123

    It's a really slow process, I'm sorry. There's no time scales or limits in the legislation, so the courts in the other country can be as slow as they want. You can contact your MP, they are usually pretty helpful and can get things moving for you.
    • Singlemum32
    • By Singlemum32 30th May 18, 9:50 PM
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    Hi,
    I have just sent my initial form away to the REMO Unit yesterday.

    I have a few questions tho...do I need to court order to progress with the Reno application?

    My ex has never met his daughter, she was 12 in March just gone. Last time I saw him face to face I was 3 months pregnant. For this reason he isn!!!8217;t on her birth certificate. He has hidden from me for years, I have all the information I had on him to the job centre when my daughter was born and they said they couldn!!!8217;t find him.

    He messaged me on Fb just before xmas just gone, apologising for not being part of her life etc, I am convinced he!!!8217;s only got in touch cos he thinks I can!!!8217;t claim what he is due my daughter.

    Has anyone had luck with remo application to Poland?? I am in the uk.

    Thanks
    • CakeCrusader
    • By CakeCrusader 31st May 18, 12:14 PM
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    CakeCrusader
    Hi,
    I have just sent my initial form away to the REMO Unit yesterday.

    I have a few questions tho...do I need to court order to progress with the Reno application?

    My ex has never met his daughter, she was 12 in March just gone. Last time I saw him face to face I was 3 months pregnant. For this reason he isn!!!8217;t on her birth certificate. He has hidden from me for years, I have all the information I had on him to the job centre when my daughter was born and they said they couldn!!!8217;t find him.

    He messaged me on Fb just before xmas just gone, apologising for not being part of her life etc, I am convinced he!!!8217;s only got in touch cos he thinks I can!!!8217;t claim what he is due my daughter.

    Has anyone had luck with remo application to Poland?? I am in the uk.

    Thanks
    Originally posted by Singlemum32

    Hi You do need a court awarded maintenance order, the REMO unit can advise you on this (basically they will will send him the forms, he fills them in to state what his income is etc. If he hires a solicitor here, you will be sent copies of his income details/bank statements etc. You will receive a court date, and you just have to attend and let them know the amount that you think is appropriate (you can ask for the amount that the CSA would award). You can ask them to backdate the order, but it can only be backdated to the date when you filled the REMO. You'll be sent a copy, as will your ex. You will then need to apply to get the order enforced in Poland. ^If^ your ex is a reasonable bloke you might not need to do this, you can make arrangements for him to pay you directly. It's advisable to get this enforced though, especially when you take his previous behavior into account.



    It doesn't matter whether he's on the birth certificate or not, he's accepted that he's the father. I haven't dealt with Poland, but generally it's a really slow process.



    Hope this helps!
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