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    • Former MSE Helen
    • By Former MSE Helen 3rd Aug 11, 9:29 AM
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    Former MSE Helen
    MSE News: No pay rise for most workers
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    • 3rd Aug 11, 9:29 AM
    MSE News: No pay rise for most workers 3rd Aug 11 at 9:29 AM
    This is the discussion thread for the following MSE News Story:

    "Only one in four workers have had a pay rise this year, with most seeing their wages frozen, new research revealed today ..."

    Read the full story:
    No pay rise for most workers


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    • Kushan
    • By Kushan 3rd Aug 11, 9:33 AM
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    • 3rd Aug 11, 9:33 AM
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    • 3rd Aug 11, 9:33 AM
    I know that the people who work in Virgin Media's onshore call centres haven't had a single pay rise in 9 years, so things can be worse.
    • getmore4less
    • By getmore4less 3rd Aug 11, 9:35 AM
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    • 3rd Aug 11, 9:35 AM
    catch up at he back,

    no pay rises have been going on for years
  • BettySpofkins
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    • 3rd Aug 11, 10:00 AM
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    • 3rd Aug 11, 10:00 AM
    You can't simply have your pay cut, it's illegal. There must be more to this than we're being told.

    [Edit] But generally, I agree. In my game you typically have to move between companies to get a payrise. You can make a lot more money if you do that, but it probably wouldn't be reflected in the stats here, of course.

    Either way, many employers are completely ignorant of the cost of replacing good staff, so neglect salary reviews, which is a complete false economy. Very few employers are enlightened in that respect, but a small handful are.
    Last edited by BettySpofkins; 03-08-2011 at 10:04 AM.
    • jgriggle
    • By jgriggle 3rd Aug 11, 10:03 AM
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    • 3rd Aug 11, 10:03 AM
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    • 3rd Aug 11, 10:03 AM
    Due to working on commission my annual wage has dropped by 20% in the last two years, from around 20k to around 16k.

    That, combined with big increases in the cost of living means I've gone from being fairly comfortable to really struggling to make ends meet.

    Still, it's not forever (I hope)!
    • Percy1983
    • By Percy1983 3rd Aug 11, 11:35 AM
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    • 3rd Aug 11, 11:35 AM
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    • 3rd Aug 11, 11:35 AM
    We havent had any pay increments for 3 years.
    Have my first business premises (+4th business) 01/11/2017
    Quit day job to run 3 businesses 08/02/2017
    Started third business 25/06/2016
    Son born 13/09/2015
    Started a second business 03/08/2013
    Officially the owner of my own business since 13/01/2012
  • Hammyman
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    • 3rd Aug 11, 11:46 AM
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    • 3rd Aug 11, 11:46 AM
    ....unless you are in the public sector which has had wage rises since records began. Of course they'll bleat on about the years they didn't get any but what they mean is "cost of living" whereas the private sector means "earning the same amount".
    • DCFC79
    • By DCFC79 3rd Aug 11, 12:33 PM
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    • 3rd Aug 11, 12:33 PM
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    • 3rd Aug 11, 12:33 PM
    catch up at he back,

    no pay rises have been going on for years
    Originally posted by getmore4less
    i would of had 1 at my last job but the owner was an !!! and never got round to giving my rise
    Last edited by DCFC79; 03-08-2011 at 12:40 PM.
  • avasgranny
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    • 3rd Aug 11, 1:39 PM
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    • 3rd Aug 11, 1:39 PM
    Hubby and son both had their hours and wages (obv) cut 3 years ago. Were given notice on the sat it was happening the next day! Indeed it did. Overnight we lost twenty per cent of hubbys wages. Totally threw us into financial desperation and ended up nearly losing our house. Anyway since then no hours increased and certainly no pay rises but the boss loves to boast about how the profits are up as he turns up to work in another brand new car or books their fifth foreign holiday of the year! Swine!
  • relic
    Hubby and son both had their hours and wages (obv) cut 3 years ago. Were given notice on the sat it was happening the next day! Indeed it did. Overnight we lost twenty per cent of hubbys wages. Totally threw us into financial desperation and ended up nearly losing our house. Anyway since then no hours increased and certainly no pay rises but the boss loves to boast about how the profits are up as he turns up to work in another brand new car or books their fifth foreign holiday of the year! Swine!
    Originally posted by avasgranny
    Get another job then.
    • Mrs Arcanum
    • By Mrs Arcanum 3rd Aug 11, 1:58 PM
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    Mrs Arcanum
    Since returning to work in 2005 I have had NO pay rises. As a temp I was stuck on 7 ph for 3 years (in various different temp jobs) and in my permanent job no pay rise for 3 years though we have had a flat rate bonus which was of more value to those (like me) at the bottom of the pay scale.
    Truth always poses doubts & questions. Only lies are 100% believable, because they don't need to justify reality. - Carlos Ruiz Zafon, The Labyrinth of the Spirits
    • fragglerock64
    • By fragglerock64 3rd Aug 11, 2:15 PM
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    Well I can only hope the Goverment, supermarkets, gas & electric suppliers are reading this. I recieved a 1.8% pay rise this year, my husband tokk a pay cut to save his job, however everything is going up from the price of a loaf of bread etc. How are we expected to pay for these things, everyone I know are struggling just to make ends meet and they reckon we are out of recession, not in my eyes
  • avasgranny
    Get another job then.
    Originally posted by relic






    Eh where?????? You obviously dont live in the same area as us or you would know the job situation here is dire!!!
  • relic
    Eh where?????? You obviously dont live in the same area as us or you would know the job situation here is dire!!!
    Originally posted by avasgranny
    The job situation in your area is so dire that there were no jobs they could apply for in 3 years?

    Where do you live, that it is so bad?
  • rowie1
    just heard today that our company is dishing out 1.5% accross the board, better than nothing 11p per hour, but does'nt cover the cost of everything else that has gone up gas/elec/diesel etc..
  • ppolly
    That is not news here. Husband has had a pay freeze, rapidly followed by a pay and hours cut.
    • cupkate
    • By cupkate 3rd Aug 11, 6:26 PM
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    ....unless you are in the public sector which has had wage rises since records began. Of course they'll bleat on about the years they didn't get any but what they mean is "cost of living" whereas the private sector means "earning the same amount".
    Originally posted by Hammyman
    I wondered when the public sector bashing would start. Most civil service departments haven't had a pay increase for 2 years now. (don't know about rest of public sector). Those on the maximum pay scales for their grade had their pay frozen a few years ago and some of these salaries are around 17,000 a year.
    Whether public or private sector, it's hard to manage on a frozen wage when prices keep increasing.
  • ceridwen
    I know that the people who work in Virgin Media's onshore call centres haven't had a single pay rise in 9 years, so things can be worse.
    Originally posted by Kushan
    YIKES!!!!

    Hadnt known that - no wonder so many of them are useless at their job - so would I be if my pay had been cut so much.
  • ceridwen
    Hubby and son both had their hours and wages (obv) cut 3 years ago. Were given notice on the sat it was happening the next day! Indeed it did. Overnight we lost twenty per cent of hubbys wages. Totally threw us into financial desperation and ended up nearly losing our house. Anyway since then no hours increased and certainly no pay rises but the boss loves to boast about how the profits are up as he turns up to work in another brand new car or books their fifth foreign holiday of the year! Swine!
    Originally posted by avasgranny
    ...or to be more accurate sorting "the sheep from the goats" - ie the boss is a "selfish swine" and he doesnt give a toss about the poor employees.

    I am just getting SO disillusioned about JUST how many "I'm all right jack" merchants there are around - at other peoples expense - and hes a prime example.
  • ceridwen
    Swine maybe but your husband has carried on working for him for 3 years!!!

    Can't be that bad!
    Originally posted by Googlewhacker
    Ohforgawdsake

    Sometimes it IS a case of "needs must - and there doesnt seem to be any other option". I'm not in the s*** personally and (fingers crossed) never will be <<cross fingers hard....cross fingers VERY hard and knock on wood smilie>> BUT I do think it is incumbent upon those of us who havent been too badly affected/havent been badly affected at all to realise that it simply aint the way it is for many people.

    There ARE many people who honestly HAVE "brought things upon themselves" - and yep....I think we CAN all readily identify who they are...ie those who had children they couldnt afford/went into debt for luxuries/etc and there really ARE many who - put it quite simply - simply ARE irresponsible/greedy/etc - BUT, on the other hand, there are people who really HAVE acknowleged their personal responsibilities/not been greedy or selfish in any way and THEY are being hit as well.

    So - just how do you propose that the greedy/selfish/f*ckless do see the consequences of their actions on the one hand BUT the responsible/manage their money well etc type people DO get treated fairly and not have their standard of living cut (maybe to a "cant manage at all" level) dealt with on the other hand?

    I must admit that its a question that often preoccupies my mind personally - and for very obvious personal reasons (ie from the POV of being a responsible/accept I have to "pay my way" sorta person - BUT I DO expect to be treated fairly sorta person myself).
    Last edited by ceridwen; 03-08-2011 at 6:57 PM.
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