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    • mell242
    • By mell242 16th May 18, 5:49 PM
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    Breach of confidentiality question?
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    • 16th May 18, 5:49 PM
    Breach of confidentiality question? 16th May 18 at 5:49 PM
    Hi,
    I have just met with my employer regarding a breach of confidentiality which they say I have made. I discussed with a partner company who have an interest in ours the new strategic plan. I was not told this was confidential. The document did not say so on it, nor the accompanying email.

    I did not forward the whole document to them, just the information which affects myself via email.

    What classes something as confidential? The next step is it going to HR for an investigation.

    I don't think we have a confidentiality policy either.
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    • zx81
    • By zx81 16th May 18, 5:52 PM
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    A strategic plan would be number one on the list of things that are confidential.

    What does your employment contract say about divulging company information to people?
    • mell242
    • By mell242 16th May 18, 5:53 PM
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    • 16th May 18, 5:53 PM
    Nothing! I was told that the plan had been discussed with those involved.
    • 74jax
    • By 74jax 16th May 18, 6:04 PM
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    • 16th May 18, 6:04 PM
    Hi,
    I have just met with my employer regarding a breach of confidentiality which they say I have made. I discussed with a partner company who have an interest in ours the new strategic plan. I was not told this was confidential. The document did not say so on it, nor the accompanying email.

    I did not forward the whole document to them, just the information which affects myself via email.

    What classes something as confidential? The next step is it going to HR for an investigation.

    I don't think we have a confidentiality policy either.
    Originally posted by mell242


    For what reason was it forwarded and how was it found out?


    Do you have any IT policies, confidentiality policies, you must have something in your hand book or have been told not to forward anything to competitors surely? If not it is very very lax of your current company.
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    • mell242
    • By mell242 16th May 18, 6:07 PM
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    Yes, they are very lax. It's not a large company. It was not a competitor it was a partner. I had a report written by this partner on my department, I was asked to check it, I said the strategic plan meant my department was being made redundant and this was written into their new report and passed onto my Manager. The partners are mentioned throughout the report. I was told discussions had been made with them to come to the decisions made in the plan.
    • steampowered
    • By steampowered 16th May 18, 7:11 PM
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    • 16th May 18, 7:11 PM
    I don't really understand your story. Why did you forward this information to a third party?

    Arguing the toss over whether the document was confidential is unlikely to get you anywhere. A 'strategic plan' sounds confidential to me.

    If you want to keep your job, I think you need to be explain why you thought it was appropriate to send the report to the partner; be willing to apologise; and be willing to discuss how similar incidents can be avoided in future.
    • mell242
    • By mell242 16th May 18, 7:20 PM
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    • 16th May 18, 7:20 PM
    'sounds confidential' isn't concrete is it? sorry if I haven't made this totally clear.

    I did not directly forward information. I referred to the plan - the plan being that my department was being made redundant in an email to our partners.

    I thought this was appropriate as they are stakeholders in us and the report they had written was not up to date with information.

    My query is, if information isn't clearly said that it is confidential then is it? the stakeholders would have been able to see the document in the next couple of weeks as it would appear on our website.

    I have apologised already.
    • jonnyd281
    • By jonnyd281 16th May 18, 7:27 PM
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    • 16th May 18, 7:27 PM
    Doesn't really matter whether it was marked confidential, did you have explicit permission to discuss the plan outside of your company?
    • mell242
    • By mell242 16th May 18, 7:29 PM
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    • 16th May 18, 7:29 PM
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    • 16th May 18, 7:29 PM
    No, but I told my husband...my friends..other colleagues told partners. The people I told are colleagues in a partner organisation.
    • ssparks2003
    • By ssparks2003 16th May 18, 8:02 PM
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    You seem to have problems with resisting the chance for a good natter. Expect this to end badly.
    • mell242
    • By mell242 16th May 18, 8:04 PM
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    Thank you for your helpful advice.
    • BoGoF
    • By BoGoF 16th May 18, 8:08 PM
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    Surely it is common sense that something as sensitive as a department being made redundant is a confidential matter.
    • mell242
    • By mell242 16th May 18, 8:08 PM
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    If you were being made redundant would you really not discuss it with anyone? If I hadn't mentioned the department was going to our partners..who I was told knew them they would have questioned this too.

    The only part of the plan I mentioned was my department going. Nothing else. I have no bitterness as I agreed the department was obsolete.

    Thanks anyway. I just wanted to ascertain when something is confidential or not if it is not said.
    • mell242
    • By mell242 16th May 18, 8:10 PM
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    Surely it is common sense that something as sensitive as a department being made redundant is a confidential matter.
    Originally posted by BoGoF
    Seriously? No. I have been in the education industry for 25 years. No it's not common sense to me. Strategic plans are published on university websites as a matter of course.
    • BoGoF
    • By BoGoF 16th May 18, 8:13 PM
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    Well I hope you have been in your current job for more than 2 years.
    • mell242
    • By mell242 16th May 18, 8:14 PM
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    Why?
    15 actually
    • k3lvc
    • By k3lvc 16th May 18, 8:15 PM
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    Seriously? No. I have been in the education industry for 25 years. No it's not common sense to me. Strategic plans are published on university websites as a matter of course.
    Originally posted by mell242
    So send us a link to one that shows that a department/function is to be made redundant.


    It seems to be common sense to everyone else that a situation such as this is confidential
    • mell242
    • By mell242 16th May 18, 8:18 PM
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    I'll be able to forward mine in a week!
    • mell242
    • By mell242 16th May 18, 8:22 PM
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    I have just found out that there are infact 2 plans. The first one was forwarded to our partners and that does not mention my department closing. The one that I have does state this!
    • ssparks2003
    • By ssparks2003 16th May 18, 8:27 PM
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    Subject to how the management see you actions but this could quite easily end as a gross misconduct hearing with hr
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