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CEL draft Defence

Hello,

id like to post my draft defence for a court claim from CEL, i have had no corespondance fro CEL apart from initial PCN over a 18 months ago,in the court claim they state they will send further details within 14 days of issue but ihave recieved nothing yet.
I have read the Newbies board and studied a fair few draft defence posts and would be gratefull for any advice on the following.
Many thanks

In the County Court Business Centre
Claim Number: ___

Between:

Civil Enforcement Limited v ___

Defence!Statement

I am ___, the defendant in this matter and registered keeper of vehicle ___. I currently reside at ____.


I deny I am liable for the entirety of the claim for each of the following reasons:

The Claim Form issued on the **** by Civil Enforcement Limited was not correctly filed under The Practice Direction as it was not signed by a legal person but signed by “Civil Enforcement Limited”.

This Claimant has not complied with pre-court protocol:
(a)There was no compliant ‘Letter before County Court Claim’.
(b) This is a speculative serial litigant, issuing a large number of identical 'draft particulars'. The badly mail-merged documents contain very little information. The covering letter merely contains a supposed PCN number with no contravention nor photographs.
(c) The Claim form Particulars were extremely sparse and divulged no cause of action nor sufficient detail. The Defendant has no idea what the claim is about - why the charge arose, what the alleged contract was; nothing that could be considered a fair exchange of information.
e) The Defence therefore asks the Court to strike out the claim as having no reasonable prospect of success as currently drafted.

f) Alternatively, the Defendant asks that the Claimant is required to file Particulars which comply with Practice Directions and include at least the following information;

(i) Whether the matter is being brought for trespass, breach of contract or a contractual charge, and an explanation as to the exact nature of the charge
(ii) A copy of any contract it is alleged was in place (e.g. copies of signage)
(iii) How any contract was concluded (if by performance, then copies of signage maps in place at the time)
(iv) Whether keeper liability is being claimed, and if so copies of any Notice to Driver / Notice to Keeper
(v) Whether the Claimant is acting as Agent or Principal, together with a list of documents they will rely on in this matter
(vi) If charges over and above the initial charge are being claimed, the basis on which this is being claimed
(vii) If Interest charges are being claimed, the basis on which this is being claimed

g) Once these Particulars have been filed, the Defendant asks for reasonable time to file another defence.

This case can be distinguished from ParkingEye v Beavis [2015] UKSC 67 (the Beavis case) which was dependent upon an undenied contract, formed by unusually prominent signage forming a clear offer and which turned on unique facts regarding the location and the interests of the landowner. Strict compliance with the BPA Code of Practice was paramount and Mr Beavis was the driver who saw the signs and entered into a contract to pay £85 after exceeding a licence to park free. None of this applies in this material case.


Inadequate signs incapable of binding the driver - this distinguishes this case from the Beavis case:
(a) Sporadic and illegible (charge not prominent nor large lettering) of site/entrance signage - breach of the POFA 2012 Schedule 4 and the BPA Code of Practice and no contract formed to pay any clearly stated sum.
(b) Non existent ANPR 'data use' signage - breach of ICO rules and the BPA Code of Practice.
(c) It is believed the signage was not lit and any terms were not transparent or legible; this is an unfair contract, not agreed by the driver and contrary to the Consumer Rights Act 2015 in requiring a huge inflated sum as 'compensation' from by an authorised party using the premises as intended.
(d) No promise was made by the driver that could constitute consideration because there was no offer known nor accepted. No consideration flowed from the Claimant.

The Claimant has no standing to bring a case - this distinguishes this case from the Beavis case.
a. It is believed the Claimant does not hold a legitimate contract at this car park. The Defendant has no evidence that they have any proprietary interest in the car park/land in question. As an agent, the Claimant has no legal right to bring such a claim in their name. Any such claim should be in the name of the landowner.
b. The Defendant asks the Claimant to provide a full, up-to date and signed/dated contract with the landowner (a statement saying someone has seen the contract is not enough). The contract needs to state that the Claimant is entitled to pursue matters such as these through the issue of Parking Charge Notices and in the courts in their own name. I clarify that this should be an actual copy and not just a document that claims a contract/agreement exists.


The Defendant avers that the Claimant has issued proceedings inappropriately, prematurely and without complying with the practice directions on pre-action conduct.



5/ BPA CoP breaches - this distinguishes this case from the Beavis case:
(a) the signs were not compliant in terms of the font size, lighting or positioning.
(b) the sum pursued exceeds £100.
(c) there is/was no compliant landowner contract.


The operator has not shown that the individual who it is pursuing is in fact the driver who may have been potentially liable for the charge

The Claimant has failed to comply with the strict requirements of the Protection Of Freedoms Act 2012, schedule 4 (PoFA 2012):
a. The driver of the vehicle has not been identified. The Defendant is the registered keeper but was not the Driver. In order for the Claimant to transfer liability from the driver to the keeper, they must do so within the strict requirements of PoFA 2012. This too was confirmed by Mr Greenslade, POPLA Lead Adjudicator in page 8 of the 2015 POPLA Report: “If POFA 2012 Schedule 4 is not complied with then keeper liability does not generally pass.”
b. The Claimant did not issue a “Notice to Driver” at the time of the alleged offence; therefore, the Claimant is put to strict proof that a “Notice to Keeper” was issued within the required timeframe of 14 days after the alleged offence in accordance with PoFA 2012 para. 9(5).
c. In failing to comply with the PoFA 2012, the Claimant cannot hold the Keeper liable for any of the claim.



Grace periods
The BPA Code of Practice (CoP) makes it mandatory for operators to allow grace periods at the start and end of parking, before enforcement action can be taken.
The CoP states:

13.2 You should allow the driver a reasonable ‘grace period’ in which to decide if they are going to stay or go...
13.4 You should allow the driver a reasonable period to leave the private car park after the parking contract has ended, before you take enforcement action. If the location is one where parking is normally permitted, the Grace Period at the end of the parking period should be a minimum of 10 minutes.
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  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 131,454 Forumite
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    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5731457

    At first glance (speed reading) the above one looks much better, as it refers to the new 1st October CPR.
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  • Thank you for the link, on reading the example it does seem well constructed and covers all the points i wish to make and i wasnt aware of the new CPR protocols.
    It did seem quite long at first glance but every one of the points is valid and on second reading it didnt seem there was much in the way of simplification that could be done without loosing one or two off the main points.
    After adjusting specific details is it acceptable to use the bulk of this as my Defence to the claim, iwill need to submit shortly if sending by post.
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 41,336 Forumite
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    After adjusting specific details is it acceptable to use the bulk of this as my Defence to the claim, iwill need to submit shortly if sending by post.
    Absolutely, we encourage the process - provided the adjustments to reflect the individual case are done. CEL rely on template claims, they can hardly complain if they get a (almost) template response back!
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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  • Coupon-mad
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    Thank you for the link, on reading the example it does seem well constructed and covers all the points i wish to make and i wasnt aware of the new CPR protocols.
    It did seem quite long at first glance but every one of the points is valid and on second reading it didnt seem there was much in the way of simplification that could be done without loosing one or two off the main points.
    After adjusting specific details is it acceptable to use the bulk of this as my Defence to the claim, iwill need to submit shortly if sending by post.

    We suggest defences are emailed, not posted. The email addy is all over the forum, the ccbcaq one.
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  • Hello All,

    I have not received the "particulars of claim" from CEL yet my claim form is dated 04/10/17 does anyone know if it is 14 working days or just 2 straight weeks ?
  • Lamilad
    Lamilad Posts: 1,412 Forumite
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    Hello All,

    I have not received the "particulars of claim" from CEL yet my claim form is dated 04/10/17 does anyone know if it is 14 working days or just 2 straight weeks ?

    You have to add 5 days for service so today was the deadline. Email to the court advising that the claimant has failed to serve full PoC as required by CPR part 7 and PD 5.2. Accordingly the claim should be struck.
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 131,454 Forumite
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    Hello All,

    I have not received the "particulars of claim" from CEL yet my claim form is dated 04/10/17 does anyone know if it is 14 working days or just 2 straight weeks ?

    Same as the other thread like this where Johnersh has replied to explain what to do and what NOT to do.

    Click on his username and show his posts, and look back.
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  • Still no particualrs of claim from CEL, is it posible to inform court of breach of protcol via the MCOL website as the claim form has no email address to send to?
  • KeithP
    KeithP Posts: 37,584 Forumite
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    Still no particualrs of claim from CEL, is it posible to inform court of breach of protcol via the MCOL website as the claim form has no email address to send to?

    Sticking contact county court business centre into google will find your answer.
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