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    • Exemplar
    • By Exemplar 19th Jul 19, 9:07 AM
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    Some Clarity on 'excess data' threads
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    • 19th Jul 19, 9:07 AM
    Some Clarity on 'excess data' threads 19th Jul 19 at 9:07 AM
    This thread relates to cellular data usage only.

    Hiya,

    So I was looking at all of the threads from people stating 'I did not use data' etc. and thought that the image attached may help explain. If you look at the picture this shows the heaviest data usage from a group of mobiles. If you look at the bottom you will see 'Non web data'.

    What's clear is the impact that non web data (cellular NOT WIFI) has to you and your data usage.

    So CELLULAR Non Web Data is things such as:

    iMessage/ Facetime
    What'sapp
    Telegraph
    Some (not all) Spotify accounts
    VPN usage
    Certain streaming apps
    Peer to Peer
    Gambling sites that use secure connections
    (feel free to add to this list)

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    Last edited by Exemplar; 19-07-2019 at 12:13 PM. Reason: Making it obvious
    'Just because its on the internet don't believe it 100%'. Abraham Lincoln.
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    • JJ Egan
    • By JJ Egan 19th Jul 19, 10:03 AM
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    • 19th Jul 19, 10:03 AM
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    • 19th Jul 19, 10:03 AM
    Non web data as opposed to data .
    • Exemplar
    • By Exemplar 19th Jul 19, 10:10 AM
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    • 19th Jul 19, 10:10 AM
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    • 19th Jul 19, 10:10 AM
    Non web data as opposed to data .
    Originally posted by JJ Egan
    Yes this means data (either 3G/4G) but NOT WIFI!
    'Just because its on the internet don't believe it 100%'. Abraham Lincoln.
    • JJ Egan
    • By JJ Egan 19th Jul 19, 10:15 AM
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    • 19th Jul 19, 10:15 AM
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    • 19th Jul 19, 10:15 AM
    Sorry my initial message got cut off .
    But even more confused now .
    Wifi is not data .
    • Exemplar
    • By Exemplar 19th Jul 19, 10:21 AM
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    • 19th Jul 19, 10:21 AM
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    • 19th Jul 19, 10:21 AM
    Sorry my initial message got cut off .
    But even more confused now .
    Wifi is not data .
    Originally posted by JJ Egan
    All of the above in the image is cellular usage. That means the phones were NOT on WIFI.
    'Just because its on the internet don't believe it 100%'. Abraham Lincoln.
    • JJ Egan
    • By JJ Egan 19th Jul 19, 10:47 AM
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    • 19th Jul 19, 10:47 AM
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    • 19th Jul 19, 10:47 AM
    I use a number of those on Wifi .Your image does not mention cellular usage .



    I just find your OP confusing as to its actual meaning and what you are trying to say to those that dont understand what data is nor how they pay for data on a mobile network .
    • Exemplar
    • By Exemplar 19th Jul 19, 10:53 AM
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    • 19th Jul 19, 10:53 AM
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    • 19th Jul 19, 10:53 AM
    I use a number of those on Wifi .Your image does not mention cellular usage .



    I just find your OP confusing as to its actual meaning and what you are trying to say to those that dont understand what data is nor how they pay for data on a mobile network .
    Originally posted by JJ Egan
    If you are being deliberately obtuse, congratulations.

    The above photo shows cellular data usage only not WIFI.
    'Just because its on the internet don't believe it 100%'. Abraham Lincoln.
    • d123
    • By d123 19th Jul 19, 10:54 AM
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    • 19th Jul 19, 10:54 AM
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    • 19th Jul 19, 10:54 AM
    Sorry my initial message got cut off .
    But even more confused now .
    Wifi is not data .
    Originally posted by JJ Egan
    WiFi is data, but is normally not cellular data but it can be depending on what setup the WiFi network is broadcasting from.
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    • grumbler
    • By grumbler 19th Jul 19, 2:36 PM
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    • 19th Jul 19, 2:36 PM
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    • 19th Jul 19, 2:36 PM
    I am confused too.
    Some (not all) Spotify accounts
    Why some? If a mobile provider gives free access to Spotify, then this depends on the privider/plan, not on the type of the account.

    Certain streaming apps
    The same. Why 'certain'?
    Gambling sites that use secure connections
    Why only secure?
    We are born naked, wet and hungry...Then things get worse.

    .withdrawal, NOT withdrawel ..bear with me, NOT bare with me
    .definitely, NOT definately ......separate, NOT seperate
    should have, NOT should of
    .....guaranteed, NOT guarenteed
    • Exemplar
    • By Exemplar 19th Jul 19, 2:45 PM
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    I am confused too.

    Why some? If a mobile provider gives free access to Spotify, then this depends on the privider/plan, not on the type of the account.

    The same. Why 'certain'?
    Why only secure?
    Originally posted by grumbler
    OK I will explain one, the rest is down to you to discover using the interwebs.

    Spotify - Vodafone - Uses a VPN connection therefore avoids being seen as web traffic (cellular), but only on retail contracts.
    'Just because its on the internet don't believe it 100%'. Abraham Lincoln.
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