Ignored PCN for 3 months, should I write to them?

Random101 · 1 May 2019 at 10:32PM

*Ive had to add a space after http: in all of my links to be able to post this*
Ive read the newbies thread as well as countless other posts and im still unsure of what to do.

I visited a friend who has a residential car park which operates a permit system. I arrived on a Friday evening in February and obtained a permit from security who informed me it will be fine for the whole weekend. It was too dark for me to read any signs or the permit I was given.

On Sunday morning I had a ticket on my windscreen, and I noticed that the permit I was given said it was valid for the Friday and Saturday only, but also said that its only valid on date of issue. See here. http: //tinypic.com/r/2nhdpnt/9

The ticket said to go online to myparkingcharge and pay the fine.

I spoke to the security and they said to ignore it as they know loads of people that get them.

As I am a student my car is registered at my parents address, so its been 3 months and I have only just opened all the letters they sent me.

The letters were all sent within the right time frames, but im unsure if I should write to them and explain what happened?

I have uploaded the first letter and the two most recent.

1. http: //tinypic.com/r/24bvhxi/9
2. http: //tinypic.com/r/2vl039w/9
3. http: //tinypic.com/r/25fhbwy/9

Im really unsure of what im supposed to do, some websites say that I could ignore or appeal (think im too late for this but I could still write to them)?

I really cant afford to pay it but also dont want the stress of court (if it comes to it), alongside uni.

Apologies if this info has been posted elsewhere, I have read so many threads its all just a big mess in my head now.

Redx · 1 May 2019 at 11:05PM

explaining what happened to the PPC wont help you at all, not even a little bit , its far too late for any appeal, and even if it wasnt they would refuse the appeal anyway (they always refuse appeals, regardless)

complaining to the landowner or M.A. may help, especially if they cancel the charges with the PPC

otherwise its carry on ignoring until the inevitable happens , a court claim within 6 years

what you want is irrelevant, you are not in control UNLESS YOU PAY UP IN FULL

its pay up , IN FULL, or fightback at the correct time, when the court papers arrive

your choice

meanwhile , the ONLY thread you need to read is the NEWBIES FAQ sticky thread, that is it , no other threads will help you in this IGNORE stage

Coupon-mad · 1 May 2019 at 11:36PM

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2nhdpnt&s=9#.XMoe4uhKjIU

You need to read the thread by this poster and get ready for court:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5906037

Im really unsure of what im supposed to do, some websites say that I could ignore or appeal (think im too late for this but I could still write to them)?

Sadly, there was NEVER any appeal you could have tried.

The only way to overturn this before fighting it in court (and I DO NOT include 'paying up' as an option!) is by landowner complaint. And I mean really assertive complaint, supported by the resident.

I visited a friend who has a residential car park which operates a permit system.

Never, EVER park there again. He needs to move.

Random101 · 2 May 2019 at 8:05PM

Redx wrote: »

complaining to the landowner or M.A. may help, especially if they cancel the charges with the PPC

Coupon-mad wrote: »

The only way to overturn this scam before fighting it in court (and I DO NOT include 'paying up' as an option!) is by landowner complaint. And I mean really assertive complaint, supported by the resident.

Thank you both,
I will try and get in touch with the landowner and see if I can get things cancelled that way.

Random101 · 18 May 2019 at 5:11PM

Redx wrote: »

explaining what happened to the PPC wont help you at all, not even a little bit , its far too late for any appeal, and even if it wasnt they would refuse the appeal anyway (they always refuse appeals, regardless)

complaining to the landowner or M.A. may help, especially if they cancel the charges with the PPC

otherwise its carry on ignoring until the inevitable happens , a court claim within 6 years

what you want is irrelevant, you are not in control UNLESS YOU PAY UP IN FULL

its pay up , IN FULL, or fightback at the correct time, when the court papers arrive

your choice

meanwhile , the ONLY thread you need to read is the NEWBIES FAQ sticky thread, that is it , no other threads will help you in this IGNORE stage

I have now received a Letter Before Claim. I have read the guidance thread about it which mentions the Practice Directive.
This isnt mentioned in my letter. See below.

http:// i64.tinypic.com/245zzlx.jpg

http:// tinypic.com/r/qmx8ja/9

I know that I must write back to acknowledge the letter, but I'm unsure if the letter they have sent is legally correct and if I need to ask them to amend it.

Here is the thread I got the information from.
https:// forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=4754020

KeithP · 18 May 2019 at 5:44PM

You need to think again.

The information it that Lazy Daisy thread is very old... too old.

This earlier statement by Redx should help you enormously:

the ONLY thread you need to read is the NEWBIES FAQ sticky thread

Random101 · 18 May 2019 at 6:06PM

KeithP wrote: »

You need to think again.

The information it that Lazy Daisy thread is very old... too old.

This earlier statement by Redx should help you enormously:

The Newbies thread refers to the Lazy Daisy thread in terms of how to respond to the LBA/LBC.
I'm now extremely confused as to what I should be replying with.
Do I just send a letter saying I acknowledge the LBC? As well as a SAR?

KeithP · 18 May 2019 at 6:13PM

Random101 wrote: »

The Newbies thread refers to the Lazy Daisy thread in terms of how to respond to the LBA/LBC.

I don't think it does.

Here is a short extract from post #2 of the NEWBIES thread:

As well as the SAR to the parking firm's Data Protection Officer (DPO), also write a letter - by email to Gladstones or BW Legal or directly to whoever the PPC is, if they are not using a solicitor. Your letter can state that you have sent their client a SAR and so you require a restriction of data processing and the case should be put 'on hold'. Confirm your correct 'address for service' (especially if you've moved and they've traced you & might revert back to an old address).

This is an EASY formal letter to write - it will not stop most claims but it looks better to respond. Gladstones & BW Legal will refuse. Please don't post about that...all as expected.

Random101 · 18 May 2019 at 6:22PM

KeithP wrote: »

I don't think it does.

If you scroll to the very bottom of that thread, you will see this
LBCCC/LBC/LBA = Letter Before County Court Claim/Letter Before Claim/Letter Before Action. DO NOT IGNORE IT. How to respond.
The "How to respond" contains a hyperlink to the thread.

KeithP · 18 May 2019 at 6:42PM

Ah, I see it now.

LBCCC/LBC/LBA = Letter Before County Court Claim/Letter Before Claim/Letter Before Action. DO NOT IGNORE IT. How to respond.

That's in post #5 of the NEWBIES thread. That is wrong and I am sure that Coupon-mad will correct it now you have pointed it out.
Thanks for doing that.

You really should be reading post #2 of that thread for the detail on how the respond to a Letter of Claim where you will find the extract I quoted earlier.

Random101 · 18 May 2019 at 6:57PM

KeithP wrote: »

You really should be reading post #2 of that thread for the detail on how the respond to a Letter of Claim where you will find the extract I quoted earlier.

Thanks for clarifying, I have just sent a SAR and also an email to put the case on hold.

Ignored PCN for 3 months, should I write to them?

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