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    • Slinky
    • By Slinky 15th Jan 18, 12:45 PM
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    KonMari 2018 & 2019 - The Life Changing Magic of Tidying Up
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    • 15th Jan 18, 12:45 PM
    KonMari 2018 & 2019 - The Life Changing Magic of Tidying Up 15th Jan 18 at 12:45 PM
    Since there seems to be a few new threads being started in case old ones are accidentally lost, shall I do the same for KonMari?

    Here's the links to the old threads with thanks to VfM4meplse and greent

    2017

    2016

    2015


    'The Life Changing Magic of Tidying Up' by Marie Kondo is a home organisation/ decluttering book like no other. Instead of looking for things to discard, Marie Kondo says we should instead look for things we wish to keep - using the 'does it spark joy?' method. Ultimately this means that everything in our homes should spark joy for us You might not think that everyday and seemingly mundane items can't spark joy - but you need to think around it a little. So whilst an iron may not spark joy, wearing ironed clothes may. A cheese grater may not spark joy, but your child may really like grated cheese in their wraps - which brings joy.

    Marie Kondo also says that this should be done quickly and properly. This may take six months to achieve, but tidying properly should mean doing it just once. This is against the often-seen decluttering advice of doing 15 minutes a day, or a drawer/ shelf a day.

    MK suggests an order as to what to sort through first and subsequently. This is important - she starts with items which many people do not have an emotional attachment to (clothes) and builds up to sentimental items (photos) so that a person's joy-meter can be developed along the way.

    Many MSE-ers have been following the KM method (kondo-ing) successfully. It fits into the MSE ethos by changing your mindse - you will no longer want to shop mindlessly for something 'just because' or 'it'll do' - you will want to buy only joyful items, thereby often saving ££ on random, impulse purchases.


    From the 2016 thread

    How/ Where Can I Dispose of My Unwanted Items?

    It is vitally important to make sure that you dispose of your unwanted items asap - less chance of any doubts creeping in and items making their way back!


    To make money and/ or save items from landfill, you may find the following ideas useful:

    Money Making:

    www.ebay.co.uk - am sure many will use this already. Be careful of fees - ebay now charge final value fees (FVF) on your postage as well as the amount which the items sells for.

    www.ziffit.com - can sell any unwanted books, CDs, DVDs & games. Download the app onto your smartphone/ tablet for ease of use - scan the barcodes and it will tell you if the item is accepted and what price they will give you. For even more money, go through a cashback site first (such as www.topcashback.co.uk or www.quidco.com) (tip: save your accepted items in your virtual 'cart'. If you have any items which they initially refuse, try re-scanning these several days later - I find about another 20-50% of previously unaccepted items go through on another attempt!)


    www.preloved.co.uk - Quidco are currently offering 60p to new members to Preloved (Jan 2016); plus you get 10p for posting a new advert. It's free to join and post adverts to Preloved, you can post things for sale or free to a good home so might be an alternative to eBay, free cycle, facebook selling pages to offload unwanted, unloved items. All free ads include a photo and private ads are completely free, no listing fees, no selling fees and no catches


    www.gumtree.com - free online classified ad site


    Recycling/ Reusing Items: (often raising funds for charities at the same time )

    Bras
    You can post them to the Breast Cancer charity here http://www.againstbreastcancer.org.uk/get-involved/fundraising/recycling/513/bra-recycling/ or you can go hand them in to a branch of Bravissimo.



    OR : raise funds for Nowzad Dogs - the only official animal charity in Afghanistan: http://www.nowzad.com/help-us/bras-for-nowzad/


    Unwanted pens
    You can post your unwanted pens to people overseas to help schools and orphanages via http://www.pensforkids.co.uk/how_you_can_help.html


    Ink jet Printer Cartridges
    Can be dropped off at Sue Ryder stores or posted off freepost for a charity from wide list or Tesco club card points for you via http://www.therecyclingfactory.com
    /our-partners/


    Books & Music
    British Heart Foundation and Oxfam both do specialist charity shops that sell books and music so you could separate those donations to maximise the money the charities make



    Postcards: can raise money for Great Ormond St children's hospital. http://www.gosh.org/fundraise-us/shopping-and-recycling/recycling-and-environment


    Stamps: GOSH also take all stamps, special and everyday, as do the RNIB http://www.rnib.org.uk/donations-and-fundraising-fundraising-your-community-recycle-us/used-stamps-appeal


    Maternity items/ baby & children's clothing/ nursery furniture/ toiletries/ nappies - a baby bank (like a food bank, but maternity and child related items for families in crisis) Lots springing up around the country. Some independent, some part of a small network. http://www.babybanknetwork.com/how-you-can-help-2/ www.gloucestershirebundles.org http://www.littlebundles.org.uk/cambridge/donations Up to date list can be found on stripey stork's website


    Toiletries/ make-up/ clothing (women's and children's) - women's refuge centres. Google your local area for one - but be prepared you may have to drop off to a 3rd party point - for obvious reasons they do not always want to publicise their location! Or post to : http://www.carolinehirons.com/p/give-and-makeup.html to help women and children in the Southern/ London area

    charity shops
    ziffit
    ebay
    gumtree etc


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    Last edited by Slinky; 22-01-2019 at 8:32 AM. Reason: Add in list from 2016 of places to dispose of unwanted items, thanks for locating them greent
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    • silvasava
    • By silvasava 19th Jan 18, 8:56 AM
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    Sailing Club is having a jumble in a couple of months to raise funds for children's sailing. Last year we expanded it to include clothing (not sailing gear) and books. It was very successful and the surplus was donated to various CS - a win-win all round. So major wardrobe kondo going on here - just wish DH would release some of his book collection
    Small victories - sometimes they are all you can hope for but sometimes they are all you need - be kinder than necessary, for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle
    • kittie
    • By kittie 19th Jan 18, 9:28 AM
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    I need space, in the big shed, I can`t do any more tidying in there until I have the space which is being blocked by two stacks of bags of wood pellets for the stove. I was trying to eke out but suddenly winter will be over and I can see wood pellet bags still sitting there. Only one way for that to happen ie use them, so I am doing that, anyway the fabric of the house was cooling down because of just using electric in the rooms I use

    I still get stomach churning at the thought of preparing my house for selling, the photos for example. I haven`t found a new house yet. One or two rooms have turned into dumping areas over winter, ie the floors and chairs have things on them. House maintenance is still in order, thank goodness. I did buy plants in, several and nothing went out but it is feng shui, again, looks better
    • Siebrie
    • By Siebrie 19th Jan 18, 10:10 AM
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    I have rescued more items from the Purchasing Department's clear-out, but I'm not taking all of them home. The office was clearly labelled 'basement' and 'bin', so I looked through the 'bin' items and found:

    - 2 small postman bags (for donation to relatives in Africa)
    - 3 or 4 pillow cases, including 1 hypo-allergy (for use at home)
    - face flannel, towel(s) (not sure how many, it's a small stack) (for use at home)
    - bodum vase (presented to a colleague)
    - pens and pencils (for donation to relatives in Africa)
    - set of amenities (for use at home)
    - branded mug (for general use in the office kitchen)
    - branded slippers (for guest use at home)
    - shaving kit and dental kit (small bagful) (for guest use at home)
    - 3 different clothes hangers (for general office use on the office coat rack)

    As long as things are 'in motion' I'm fine.
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    • Slinky
    • By Slinky 19th Jan 18, 10:15 AM
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    Slinky

    I still get stomach churning at the thought of preparing my house for selling, the photos for example. I haven`t found a new house yet. One or two rooms have turned into dumping areas over winter, ie the floors and chairs have things on them. House maintenance is still in order, thank goodness. I did buy plants in, several and nothing went out but it is feng shui, again, looks better
    Originally posted by kittie
    I know the feeling. We're a couple of years away from moving, but it will definitely be happening, so stuff needs to be gone through and cleared.

    I'm meeting a friend later for a late lunch. She's also moving away. I'm working my way through some copies of Grand Designs magazines she gave me pulling out ideas for our new house. Passing the mags on to my neighbour when I've finished.

    I've just realised that she might like a book I was given about our local church I have no interest in, if not she may have a contact who does want it as she sings in the choir. I'll give her first dibs, if she doesn't want it, local CS it is.
    • GreyQueen
    • By GreyQueen 19th Jan 18, 4:16 PM
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    Evening all.

    Well, there is a bicycle in my hall, one I've owned for less than an hour. I haven't posted about it but, three months ago, some passing person spotted my bicycle outside and briefly unprotected (as in about 2 minutes with an improperly secured chain) and took it. To say that I was furious is to heavily understate the case.

    The bike which I don't have any more is the only the second one I have owned in my adult life, and only the second new bike I'd ever had in my 50+ years. I (and pals) have been searching high and low, IRL and online, for the stolen bike and have finally bitten the bullet and sourced a replacement.

    The new old bike is actually 28 years old, the old old bike was 24 years old, and the one I don't have any more was in better nick. C'est la vie. I am shortly to start the project of cleaning it up and emotionally making it 'mine' - my bicycle is my only means of transport other than my own two feet.

    Have been involuntarily kondo'd of something I loved, used a lot and needed has been a salutary lesson in the evils of attachment. It also opened up a window on my own psyche which didn't thrill me with joy - that I am intensely possesive about some of my things. Hmm, a life lesson has been learned.

    If I factor in all costs, such as the lost benefit of the extensive replacements/ repairs to the old bike, the price of the new bike, the cost of replacing the accessories etc to the price of the used bike, I will be down circa £200, maybe a little more. If I attempted to add up the amount of time (not to mention emotional energy) I have spent in the quest for the stolen bike, you could add a zero to that, even if you factored my time at minimum wage.

    With the timeliness which sometimes occurs, I found this today:

    From The Minimalists: “But the true cost of a thing goes well beyond the price on the pricetag.
    The cost of…
    Storing the thing.
    Maintaining the thing.
    Cleaning the thing.
    Watering the thing.
    Feeding the thing.
    Charging the thing.
    Accessorizing the thing.
    Refueling the thing.
    Changing the oil of thing.
    Replacing the batteries of the thing.
    Fixing the thing.
    Repainting the thing.
    Taking care of the thing.
    Thinking about the thing.
    Worrying about the thing.
    Protecting the thing.
    Replacing the thing.
    When you add it all up, the actual cost of owning a thing is nearly immeasurable. So we better choose carefully what things we bring into our lives, because we can’t afford every-thing.”


    So very very true! But at least I'm not exclusively a pedestrian anymore...........
    Last edited by GreyQueen; 19-01-2018 at 4:22 PM. Reason: wrong year - forgot we're in 2018...
    Every increased possession loads us with a new weariness.
    John Ruskin
    Veni, vidi, eradici
    (I came, I saw, I kondo'd)

    • VJsmum
    • By VJsmum 19th Jan 18, 4:25 PM
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    OH GQ, what a bummer....

    I have finally got rid of the 4 bags of chazzer donations split between 2 shops in town. the box of books went yesterday so hopefully £15 good British pounds will be wending their way into my account.

    i also cancelled a monthly payment from my credit card account for an online x box live thing that DS has not used for years. I am ashamed to say that although this payment was 'only' about £6 a month, it adds up to about £220 we've paid out that we didn't need to

    Gradually i am rationalising payments that i don't need to make - we have just changed our energy tariff to direct debit, saving about £220 a year. so in 2 phone calls, I have saved £300 a year... so ashamed not to have done this sooner. OH has resisted Direct debits until I pointed out that we get no interest on the money being in our account (or a fraction of a %) whereas we save £200 by changing...

    we are going to start decorating study and lounge tomorrow so it does mean more stuff going into the conservatory whilst that happens but we have moved from the end of the beginning to the beginning of the end.
    I wanna be in the room where it happens
    • GreyQueen
    • By GreyQueen 19th Jan 18, 4:41 PM
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    Thanks, VJsMum. But, compared to so many things which could have gone wrong, it was very small beer, and nothing like as bad as your flood damage.

    With the wisdom of hindsight, it would have been better to have just shrugged and sourced another old bike asap, but I felt vengeful and convinced that I would catch the thief red-handed on the 'bay or g*mtree trying to flog it (I know people who've got their stolen bikes back like that, so it wasn't as silly an idea as it might seem).

    Do you know how many used Raliegh bikes are offered online at any given time? Even in the middle of winter? Nationally, it seems to hover just under 30,000. Haystack-needle. Plus a not-very-evolved emotional response from me, a person who is a touch prideful about being non-materialistic - I've obviously been mahoosively deluding myself about my level of attatchment to Things. Ach well, that's life.

    Of course, my security-coded original pushbike might just turn up somewhere and get handed in to the Police and come back to me (if it happens tomorrow, I may just have a small scream somewhere quietly! ) but, worse case scenario is I have two old pushbikes.

    I'd keep the second one for Justin, of course, I hate having to walk everywhere.
    Every increased possession loads us with a new weariness.
    John Ruskin
    Veni, vidi, eradici
    (I came, I saw, I kondo'd)

    • Igamogam
    • By Igamogam 19th Jan 18, 4:49 PM
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    GQ - 2 of my DD2 student housemates had their bikes stolen the week they moved in - they took the 2 lads bikes but left the girls - not that there was an obvious gender difference in them - they climbed over a high gate in a busy street during the day time, used bolt cutters to cut through heavy duty chains and must have had to pass the bikes over said high gate. Reported to police whose response was "Yes in first week of term there is always a spike in bike thefts. Its unlikely you will see them again". Nobody in busy town centre street saw anything and nor did the CCTV.............angry didnt come into it. Only consolation was that the thieves took the cheapest crappiest bikes and left the very expensive £300 plus bikes behind, one of them being my DD2s! They were attracted, like magpies, by bright red and blue paint work....low life idiots. Needless to say girls now keep their bikes indoors....typical student house
    Be the change you want to see -with apologies to Gandhi
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    • Igamogam
    • By Igamogam 19th Jan 18, 4:56 PM
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    Plus a not-very-evolved emotional response from me, a person who is a touch prideful about being non-materialistic - I've obviously been mahoosively deluding myself about my level of attatchment to Things. Ach well, that's life.
    Originally posted by GreyQueen
    I would say it was more a feeling of being violated than being attached, maybe, that brought out that response??? I know I would feel vengeful.........I had a really nice pair of dressmaking scissors taken once when I was helping out with costumes back stage during a week long production.......I was so angry and they were nothing expensive or special. It was just the fact that they were taken from me...........and dont get me started on the swimming costume I left behind once only to find the following week someone in the class wearing it
    Be the change you want to see -with apologies to Gandhi
    In gardens, beauty is a by-product. The main business is sex and death. ~Sam Llewelyn
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    • GreyQueen
    • By GreyQueen 19th Jan 18, 5:00 PM
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    I'm sorry to hear of their losses. Another pal of mine had a vintage bike stolen last year. Because of the circs, mine was an uninsured loss and I totally lost the benefit of the £130-worth of refurbishments and accessories I'd spent in the weeks leading up to the theft. I just hope the bike is somewhere being used (even if dismantled for spares) not thrown into the nearby river.

    Now I could, if I had wanted to, bought a brand new bike but have deliberately chosen not to, due to the rampant bike thefts in my city. I could have chosen a brightly-coloured and shinier used bike for not much more money, but the new-to-me bike is a very muted plain black. I shall rub off the rust spots and touch in the paintwork, and fit is with (mainly) used accessories like luggage carrier, basket etc. It isn't going to be a flashy ride and that's just how I like it.

    If I had followed my heart's desire, I would have had a gents P@shley, but couldn't face the anxiety of owning something which cost most of a month's salary and leaving it chained up on the street.

    As my old Dad sagely remarked, you can have several £50 used bikes of the course of a lifetime and a fraction of the anxiety of one really expensive one.

    Of course, if I ever do see my stolen bike (and I have the orginal receipt and warranty booklet still) whoever has got it will be treated to some icy sarcasm and invited to stand their ground and explain themselves to the constabulary.
    Every increased possession loads us with a new weariness.
    John Ruskin
    Veni, vidi, eradici
    (I came, I saw, I kondo'd)

    • camelot1001
    • By camelot1001 19th Jan 18, 7:23 PM
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    That's rotten GQ, why is it always something precious to you that gets taken? Makes me both angry and sad.

    DD had her new bike stolen from the middle of Glasagow's main shopping area, bright green and bought from her very hard earned cash in a sale. She was so pleased to have saved and bought it, it was meant to save her the train fare.
    • catshark88
    • By catshark88 19th Jan 18, 7:30 PM
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    My poor Mum (antique collector and def hoarding tendencies) is having to declutter a large house prior to a possible downsize. A lifetime of stuff being sorted. Sadly it gives her no joy. So, so sad to see (but it has to be done). Most of it, I canít help with, just give her support.
    "Have nothing in your houses that you do not know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful." William Morris
    • Knit Witch
    • By Knit Witch 19th Jan 18, 7:33 PM
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    My poor Mum (antique collector and def hoarding tendencies) is having to declutter a large house prior to a possible downsize. A lifetime of stuff being sorted. Sadly it gives her no joy. So, so sad to see (but it has to be done). Most of it, I canít help with, just give her support.
    Originally posted by catshark88
    Support can help!
    Must use my stash up!
    • catshark88
    • By catshark88 19th Jan 18, 7:35 PM
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    GreyQueen, I don’t think you are besmirching your minimalist credentials by feeling angry about your property being stolen. It seems an eminently fair and reasonable response to me.

    I hope the gits ride themselves into a tree on it.
    "Have nothing in your houses that you do not know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful." William Morris
    • Knit Witch
    • By Knit Witch 19th Jan 18, 7:36 PM
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    GreyQueen, I donít think you are besmirching your minimalist credentials by feeling angry about your property being stolen. It seems an eminently fair and reasonable response to me.

    I hope the gits ride themselves into a tree on it.
    Originally posted by catshark88
    Damaging themselves but not the bike!
    Must use my stash up!
    • catshark88
    • By catshark88 19th Jan 18, 7:37 PM
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    Support can help!
    Originally posted by Knit Witch
    I just wish I could take away some of her pain. Yes, sheís too attached to stuff, but if one is, letting it go is very painful.
    "Have nothing in your houses that you do not know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful." William Morris
    • catshark88
    • By catshark88 19th Jan 18, 7:39 PM
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    Damaging themselves but not the bike!
    Originally posted by Knit Witch
    Or the tree!!
    "Have nothing in your houses that you do not know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful." William Morris
    • Pooky
    • By Pooky 20th Jan 18, 7:22 AM
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    I was the very grateful recipient of a stolen bike when I was 10.

    I should state that said stolen bike was found abandoned in a car park where my dad worked, he handed it over to the police, no claims were made so .dad was asked if he wanted it....it was a few days before my 10th birthday and it was a blue and white checked BMX....not something my parents could have ever afforded. That was a great birthday for me but I still felt awful that someone else was missing out.

    1 large bags kondod to the CS yesterday and a pile of books are sorted and ready to drop at the village hall book exchange when I get there’s next. The village hall has big shelves of books and jigsaws and a donation is requested if you want to take a few and you’re welcome to pop them back on the shelf when you’re done so they can raise a bit more money towards the upkeep. It’s a fab idea.
    "Start every day off with a smile and get it over with" - W. C. Field.
    • Karmacat
    • By Karmacat 20th Jan 18, 9:07 AM
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    This thread is never, ever critical towards other people who hang on to their stuff, and I can entirely understand your reaction, GQ. Nobody has made an avowal of perfectly-practised Buddhism on here, we're all just bumbling along the best we can.

    I'm so sorry to hear about the stolen bikes, all of them I had my bike stolen when I was a student, but I went to Oxford Polytechnic, and I found it the next day, 3 blocks down my road! I took it back, of course.

    Makes me think of my current "bike". I bought it 20 years ago, from new, but its never been used, and it's been sitting in the shed corroding gently. Even though I've now had the shed door and the fence door repaired (it would have to pass through both to get to the road) I know I'm not going to use it regularly, especially as both doors are padlocked. So I'm going to let it go. I'd only ever use it for pootling about town, though the prepper in me insists that if I had to flee in the middle of the night, I could take the bike If things were that bad, of course, I really doubt I'd have time to get the bike through two locked doors

    What it *does* make me think, though, is that I might buy a folding bike, which I could store next to my front door, there's an alcove there that's just right. Does anybody have any recommendations about websites for 2nd hand bikes? Or are they too local for such a thing?
    Downsized and paid off mortgage 2010
    Retired August 2016
    Paid off French mortgage September 2018
    New kitchen fully installed June 2019
    • Fen1
    • By Fen1 20th Jan 18, 10:50 AM
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    Folding bikes. Are you looking for how compact it can be? How heavy for carrying? How quickly for folding/unfolding? How long are your journeys, and what terrain?

    Pretty much the gold standard is a Brompton, but don't ask the price. You can get second hand Bromptons on the web, but I would be very careful about their provenance. All the Brompton owners I know jealously guard their bikes, and they would have to have an earth-shattering reason to give them up.

    If you don't need something as fancy as a Brompton, then there are quite a few cheaper brands out there. You pay less, but the bike might not fold as neatly, or be heavier to carry. However, if you aren't lugging it about for daily commuting, then a cheaper bike might well do.
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