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    • hollie.weimeraner
    • By hollie.weimeraner 19th Jul 17, 9:35 AM
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    National Trust Membership
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    • 19th Jul 17, 9:35 AM
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    National Trust Membership 19th Jul 17 at 9:35 AM
    I don't know if this has been mentioned previously but anyone taking out National Trust membership can get it cheaper by joining the Scottish National Trust which has a reciprocal agreement with the National Trust in England.

    It could also be a Moneysaving Moral Dilemma whether to do this or not
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    • beefturnmail
    • By beefturnmail 12th Sep 17, 3:31 PM
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    OK that makes sense - I had originally mis-read the website as saying 'owned and managed' by Kew but it actually says 'funded and managed' by Kew (The NT still own it)
    Last edited by beefturnmail; 12-09-2017 at 3:36 PM.
    • Gumpy
    • By Gumpy 24th Feb 18, 6:53 PM
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    We have an NTS membership and have not had problems with Hardwick Hall main car park but cannot scan our card in the car park machines, we took a chance and left the car as we have the window sticker. I am hoping when our card renews in May it may have the same style code instead of the bar code.
    • Guys Dad
    • By Guys Dad 17th Mar 19, 10:01 AM
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    You should have joined the Malta National Trust. Save even more.
    • fred246
    • By fred246 18th Mar 19, 2:29 PM
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    The door staff at National Trust properties are often volunteers working for the charity. They don't have turnstiles. I am sure you could just barge your way past them and refuse to pay. Even if they called the police the police are unlikely to arrest you for viewing a National Trust property without paying. Is it even an offence?
    • beefturnmail
    • By beefturnmail 18th Mar 19, 3:23 PM
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    The door staff at National Trust properties are often volunteers working for the charity. They don't have turnstiles. I am sure you could just barge your way past them and refuse to pay. Even if they called the police the police are unlikely to arrest you for viewing a National Trust property without paying. Is it even an offence?
    Originally posted by fred246
    That would not work, unless you have a reciprocal arrangement in place allowing National Trust volunteers to barge past you and gain entry to your house. And it would be an offence - trespass, and possibly also assault and/or battery (though I'm no lawyer)

    Thankfully the Scottish/Maltese/NZ heritage organisations do have reciprocal arrangements in place (with full knowledge and agreement of the NT) where members can gain access free of charge to NT properties (and vice versa), which is why membership of these organisations allows free access to NT properties without having to trespass, or assault a NT volunteer!
    Last edited by beefturnmail; 18-03-2019 at 7:33 PM.
    • deanos
    • By deanos 18th Mar 19, 8:00 PM
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    You should have joined the Malta National Trust. Save even more.
    Originally posted by Guys Dad
    NZ card also gets membership to English heritage, Malta card does not so works out more expensive

    I am also a sinner and buy NZ family card approx 55 would be 226 if bought from both sites
    Last edited by deanos; 18-03-2019 at 8:04 PM.
    • fred246
    • By fred246 19th Mar 19, 4:10 AM
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    assault a NT volunteer!
    Originally posted by beefturnmail
    I never suggested assaulting anyone. I am sure you could just walk past them and say "I am not paying your prices. I'll buy a coffee in your shop afterwards." That is what stan in devon has always suggested. Buying a coffee should mean free or cheap admission.
    • beefturnmail
    • By beefturnmail 19th Mar 19, 9:28 AM
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    I never suggested assaulting anyone. I am sure you could just walk past them and say "I am not paying your prices. I'll buy a coffee in your shop afterwards." That is what stan in devon has always suggested. Buying a coffee should mean free or cheap admission.
    Originally posted by fred246
    Your previous post 34, you say "barge past", not "walk past"

    "Barge" verb
    1.move forcefully or roughly. synonyms: push, shove, force, elbow, shoulder, jostle, bludgeon, bulldoze, muscle


    Could be assault and\or battery.

    Even if you walk past rather than barging past it's still trespass as you would have no right to be there.

    With a NZ\Maltese\Scottish card you have every right to be there: no trespass, no need to barge or walk past saying: "I'm not paying".

    Just show your legitimate card, smile and exchange pleasantries with the NT volunteer.

    Everyone's happy
    • jimbo6977
    • By jimbo6977 23rd Mar 19, 10:57 PM
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    NT are the very epitome of the blob. Over salaried, over indulged, leeching off the generosity of the boomer generation.
    • straas
    • By straas 26th Mar 19, 11:13 AM
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    Any issues parking in english places using the scottish membership?

    Going away to scotland soon so would be useful to have both.
    • straas
    • By straas 2nd Apr 19, 2:50 PM
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    Sorry stan - wasn't aware of reciprocal rights and was just going off what I'd been told.

    Some attraction in the slightly cheaper cost of the scottish, but not sure that the hassle you might get off the volunteers would be worth it...

    as a thought, with the introduction of QR readers - what's to stop people applying for the 36 youth card to use for parking only?
    • bob_a_builder
    • By bob_a_builder 2nd Apr 19, 7:59 PM
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    Some attraction in the slightly cheaper cost of the scottish, but not sure that the hassle you might get off the volunteers would be worth it...
    What hassle ?
    They look at the card, possibly clock that its a scottish one and then go right ahead and scan it, not ever had a comment about it or any issue at all in England
    • straas
    • By straas 3rd Apr 19, 11:08 AM
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    Scottish NT it is then.

    They also have a better stance on fox hunts than the english NT so win-win
    • beefturnmail
    • By beefturnmail 18th May 19, 7:29 PM
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    Looks like the game's up with Heritage NZ, as I received the received the following e-mail from them yesterday



    As a valuable member of Heritage New Zealand based overseas, we would like to notify you about some significant changes in our overseas membership prices and categories. It is the first time we have increased our prices on some categories in 11 years, so they reflect the truer value of the membership package we offer. We are also removing some categories to make it easier for us to manage and for you to join or renew.
    The changes follow an investigation into our membership programme charges and costs. Factors such as postal charges – which have risen exponentially– are impacting us. But it was also clear there was a significant gap between the charges Heritage New Zealand sets for access to NZ and overseas properties and historic places and those of our sister organisations overseas like English Heritage and the National Trust.
    Unfortunately it became increasingly apparent there were many UK nationals using our membership programme simply to enjoy the reciprocal access we provide to properties and events managed by the likes of English Heritage and National Trust. Many people were not aware of, or supportive of, our work in New Zealand.
    We believe the new prices create a like-for-like market for people supporting heritage. Our aim is to promote the message that people overseas can, and should, support their local heritage agencies. The changes enable us to focus more prominently on our New Zealand-based members (and potential new members), as well as overseas members who enjoy visiting and experiencing the unique heritage in New Zealand.
    With immediate effect, there will now be two overseas membership categories priced as below:
    • Individual adult membership NZ$200
    • Family membership NZ$350
    Thankfully, I manged to renew just in time, as in the post today was my renewed (at all prices) membership card until 1 June 2020.


    No doubt some posters will still indulge in a bit of self-righteous schadenfreude though!
    Last edited by beefturnmail; 18-05-2019 at 10:04 PM.
    • pugilist
    • By pugilist 26th May 19, 2:23 PM
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    It's in the terms and conditions that you can just show the Scottish membership card to park free.
    Originally posted by Stan.In.Devon
    I think you said in an earlier post that this is stated on the website but I failed to find it. Do you have a link to it by any chance?
    • pugilist
    • By pugilist 26th May 19, 2:56 PM
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    OK, thanks, it just would have been convenient to have a copy of it as published on the site.
    • fred246
    • By fred246 27th May 19, 8:41 AM
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    Another top tip for November Stan:
    I have noticed that people often give a 1 or even more for a poppy. It has been confirmed by the Royal British Legion that there is no minimum donation for a poppy. I bought one last year for 1p. What a deal! It is quite legitimate. I would pay more but I wouldn't like to support an organisation whose members used to carry guns & knives.
    • AtullGupta
    • By AtullGupta 18th Jun 19, 9:33 AM
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    How much reciprocity exists with Bermuda membership?
    I can see for a family membership for Bermuda - it costs 75 Bermuda dollars. Anyone know just how reciprocal with NT UK that membership actually is in practice?

    Is it wholly free NT entry and free NT parking, or what are the limits? Many thanks.
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