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    AP007
    After the Work Programme
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    • 22nd Jul 13, 8:08 PM
    After the Work Programme 22nd Jul 13 at 8:08 PM
    So, secondary to the WP thread here there are a few who have now finished and have had their meetings at the JC.

    What have they now put in place for you and how often are you going to the JC etc?

    What 'support' have they offered you?

    My meeting tomorrow is about support so would like to know what they have told you all here
    Last edited by AP007; 22-07-2013 at 9:15 PM.
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    • topaztiger1983
    • By topaztiger1983 4th May 14, 2:16 AM
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    I have an interview for a voluntary job at a local charity shop next week so maybe they will leave me alone more, as the have said that the positively encourage voluntary work, before anyone says anything I know I have to declare it, My interview is on the 12th May & I have an appointment at JCP on the 13th May so I will tell them then if I know I have got the job
    Last edited by topaztiger1983; 05-05-2014 at 9:20 AM.
    • lakes17
    • By lakes17 4th May 14, 10:10 AM
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    I have an interview for a voluntary job at a local charity shop next week so maybe they will leave me alone more, as the have said that the positively encourage voluntary work, before anyone says anything I know I have to declare it, My interview is on the 12th May & I have an appointment at JCP on the 13th May so I will tell them then if I know I have got the job
    Originally posted by topaztiger1983
    Good luck with your interview you're taking the right steps towards gaining paid employment. Just a word of caution though - the JC will still expect you to perform the same level of job seeking as detailed in your agreement to continue receiving JSA. They can still sanction you if they feel that you're not keeping to your side of the bargain.
    • topaztiger1983
    • By topaztiger1983 4th May 14, 10:25 AM
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    yeah I known, but maybe they won't ask me to go on so many silly courses
    • donnajunkie
    • By donnajunkie 4th May 14, 4:28 PM
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    yeah I known, but maybe they won't ask me to go on so many silly courses
    Originally posted by topaztiger1983
    if you are lucky maybe but probably not. they have still been sending me and my fellow volunteers on stupid courses that clash with our voluntary work. they may look on you more favourably and be less likely to make you do workfare because of your volunteering.
    • topaztiger1983
    • By topaztiger1983 5th May 14, 9:18 AM
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    topaztiger1983
    I have an interview for a voluntary job at a local charity shop next week so maybe they will leave me alone more, as the have said that the positively encourage voluntary work, before anyone says anything I know I have to declare it, My interview is on the 12th May & I have an appointment at JCP on the 13th May so I will tell them then if I know I have got the job
    Originally posted by topaztiger1983
    I have just realised that the interview is on the 14th, not the 12th so I will tell JCP that I have an interview, then I will let the know as soon as I know if I have the job

    if you are lucky maybe but probably not. they have still been sending me and my fellow volunteers on stupid courses that clash with our voluntary work. they may look on you more favourably and be less likely to make you do workfare because of your volunteering.
    Originally posted by donnajunkie
    That sounds about right for JCP, to be honest I want to volunteer as I can't find any paid work as I do not have any recent work experience, also it is nice to make a difference to a local charity & I want to feel like I am doing something for my money, so volunteering is a great opportunity & I will be looking to work for them 9-5 Mon-Sat until September & and then when I am at college from September (2.5 days a week), I will be looking to keep working for them for the other 3.5 days a week, so all in all I think that kind of commitment should hopefully help me to find paid work in the future
    Last edited by topaztiger1983; 05-05-2014 at 9:27 AM.
    • donnajunkie
    • By donnajunkie 5th May 14, 3:54 PM
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    donnajunkie

    That sounds about right for JCP, to be honest I want to volunteer as I can't find any paid work as I do not have any recent work experience, also it is nice to make a difference to a local charity & I want to feel like I am doing something for my money, so volunteering is a great opportunity & I will be looking to work for them 9-5 Mon-Sat until September & and then when I am at college from September (2.5 days a week), I will be looking to keep working for them for the other 3.5 days a week, so all in all I think that kind of commitment should hopefully help me to find paid work in the future
    Originally posted by topaztiger1983
    they just want to annoy people. if you didnt want to do voluntary work they would be telling you to do it. so when they get people who do want to to do it they send them on stupid courses that clash with it.
    you wont be allowed to do more than 16 hours per week by the way.
    • topaztiger1983
    • By topaztiger1983 5th May 14, 4:07 PM
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    Thought you can do any hours if it is voluntary

    Volunteering while getting benefits

    What if I get State benefits?

    We know that volunteering can give you a much better chance of finding paid work.
    So you can volunteer as many hours as you like while you’re getting benefits as long as you keep to the rules for getting them

    The basic rules

    The basic rules are that if you get Jobseeker’s Allowance, you will still need to
    be looking for paid work. You must be free to go to an interview if we give you 48 hours' notice. You must be able to start work within one week of us giving you notice

    Jobseeker’s Allowance

    You can still be a volunteer and get Jobseeker’s Allowance as long as you:
    • follow the basic rules for volunteering
    • are still actively looking for a full-time paid job
    • are available for work (or treated as being available for work)
    • are still able to go to an interview at 48 hours' notice
    • are still able to start a job at one week's notice, and
    • let Jobcentre Plus know before you start, and tell them about any expenses you may get

    That is from a leaflet I found from JCP
    Last edited by topaztiger1983; 05-05-2014 at 4:11 PM.
    • donnajunkie
    • By donnajunkie 5th May 14, 4:15 PM
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    Thought you can do any hours if it is voluntary

    Excerpt from Volunteering while getting benefits

    What if I get State benefits?

    We know that volunteering can give you a
    much better chance of finding paid work.
    So you can volunteer as many hours as
    you like while you’re getting benefits as
    long as you keep to the rules for getting
    them

    The basic rules

    The basic rules are that if you get
    Jobseeker’s Allowance, you will still need to
    be looking for paid work. You must be free
    to go to an interview if we give you 48
    hours' notice. You must be able to start
    work within one week of us giving you
    notice

    Jobseeker’s Allowance

    You can still be a volunteer and get Jobseeker’s Allowance as long as you:
    • follow the basic rules for volunteering
    • are still actively looking for a full-time paid
    job
    • are available for work (or treated as being
    available for work)
    • are still able to go to an interview at 48
    hours' notice
    • are still able to start a job at one week's
    notice, and
    • let Jobcentre Plus know before you start,
    and tell them about any expenses you
    may get

    That is from a leaflet I found from JCP
    Originally posted by topaztiger1983
    unfortunately they employ alot of *ankers who will insist you cant do more than 16 hours. so unless you are willing to put up with all the hassle of complaining etc then you may have to accept just doing 16 hours.
    of course if you ignored the rule and did more than 16 hours you are unlikely to get found out but it is risk.
    • topaztiger1983
    • By topaztiger1983 5th May 14, 4:22 PM
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    Well I have an appointment at JCP the day before my interview, so I will ask my PWPS advisor to see what she says, best I can do

    I would not want to risk it as I have been given a warning about working while on benefits, "benefit fraud", even though that was in 2008 (I was working on benefits & I told them the truth so Igot away with a slap on the wrist), so I would not want to get caught doing anything that I could get in trouble for
    • Jerry Mander
    • By Jerry Mander 5th May 14, 5:55 PM
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    There are no plans at the moment to implement the help to work scheme for existing stock PWPS claimants.The new scheme will only apply to claimants completing the WP post 28th April 2014.
    HTH.
    Originally posted by ray1971
    What's your source for that ray?

    There are a lot of rumours that that's the case but I've seen no concrete, DWP-sourced documentation to back it up.
    • topaztiger1983
    • By topaztiger1983 6th May 14, 5:43 PM
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    I have spoken to JCP today & they said they could not see why I could not work as many hours as I wanted (voluntary), also they said it was nice to see someone doing something without being "forced" by them

    Also I have had contact with a company in Leeds & they want me to go for an interview next week, so I may not start my voluntary job, but still I am going to keep my options open
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