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    • keyser666
    • By keyser666 13th Nov 12, 11:27 PM
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    keyser666
    Well I doubt they could force you too use this. If I was searching for a role I wouldnt be using it, I work in a specialist arena and my type of work will unlikely to be on there but on the several other sites I would normally use
  • TTBlake
    My research shows that DWP claim to get just under 20% of advertised jobs in the UK... (don't forget that well over 50% of all jobs are never advertised). However, they would like to become the UK's favourite jobsite by choice, and so are moving slowly, ever so slowly into the 21st Century. This site will be easier for employers to use, and yes JCP will apparently be able to track your job applications through this service. As for the name, isn't Universal Credit due to be rolled out soon?..... Ah, I see what they've done; Universal This, Universal That etc
    • The ICT Engineer
    • By The ICT Engineer 14th Nov 12, 12:02 AM
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    The ICT Engineer
    I foresee the system crashing through overload if was made a requirement that you had to use it. Recall that one of the plans under 'Universal Credit' was the requirement that anyone who was working less than 35 hours per had to undergo a set hours (20) of job-searching per week. This would effect around 15 million people, I very much doubt if the IT system could handle a 3rd of this number at any onetime. In view of the track record when comes to Public Sector IT Projects.
    Last edited by The ICT Engineer; 14-11-2012 at 12:26 AM.
  • MissSarah1972
    My research shows that DWP claim to get just under 20% of advertised jobs in the UK... (don't forget that well over 50% of all jobs are never advertised). However, they would like to become the UK's favourite jobsite by choice, and so are moving slowly, ever so slowly into the 21st Century. This site will be easier for employers to use, and yes JCP will apparently be able to track your job applications through this service. As for the name, isn't Universal Credit due to be rolled out soon?..... Ah, I see what they've done; Universal This, Universal That etc
    Originally posted by TTBlake
    The job centre gave me something about 6 mths ago that said something like 70% of jobs were advertied on Job Seekers Direct and I did say that can't be true as I hardly ever see a job I can apply to on JSD where as on other sites I apply for at least one a day and they didn't believe me so I showed them my job search and proved where I look and apply was not the job seekers direct site.
    • taralou
    • By taralou 14th Nov 12, 6:12 PM
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    taralou
    If everyone on here is genuinely looking for work then why the problem with their JCP adviser having access to their account??
    I would have thought if you were looking for work you would appreciate all the help you were offered??
    But maybe I'm wrong
  • MissSarah1972
    If everyone on here is genuinely looking for work then why the problem with their JCP adviser having access to their account??
    I would have thought if you were looking for work you would appreciate all the help you were offered??
    But maybe I'm wrong
    Originally posted by taralou
    What help is offered though? I have no problem them looking at the jobs I apply for - it's the same as looking at a hand written list and still wont help in looking for a job.
    • 1940sGal
    • By 1940sGal 14th Nov 12, 10:59 PM
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    1940sGal
    If everyone on here is genuinely looking for work then why the problem with their JCP adviser having access to their account??
    I would have thought if you were looking for work you would appreciate all the help you were offered??
    But maybe I'm wrong
    Originally posted by taralou
    A, not everyone on here is looking for a job and

    B, the JCP are utterly useless at helping.
  • Mara69
    Aren't you meant to be working? Oh no, you are on the net!
    Originally posted by MissSarah1972
    csmw posted at 1.49pm. S/he might have been on their lunch break. Or might have a day off....

    You come across as a very whiny and unpleasant person. Might be why you can't get a job...
  • weeta_bix
    I have just come from signing on and have been told about Universal Job Match. They have just told that this is mandatory and that I need to bring my new user ID and my e-mail address to my next signing appointment, so that they can log it on their system.

    Is this actually true? I am extremely unhappy about it, since there are various boxes that need to be checked, with terms that say the Jobcentre is allowed to basically interfere with your active job applications. They can contact employers you have applied to for feedback on how your application is going or why you were unsucessful and pass on your details to who they feel like pretty much.

    With the work programme I have not signed the consent for for them to contact people I have applied to. I signed the I don't not consent form instead. Do I really *have* to sign up to this?

    For anyone that doesn't understand why this is a big deal, I shall try to elaborate, since before I had health problems my job was to develop websites.

    Once you put all this information into the website, because the website is owned by the Jobcentre, they have admin privileges on the website. Anything you do on that website, will be recorded with the exact time and is visible to the Jobcentre. I believe in all likeliness this means:

    - who you applied to
    - exactly what time you did it to the second
    - what you put in your covering letter
    - which CV and what is in it
    - they will also match jobs backwards, so instead of you looking for appropriate jobs, it sounds like they can put you forward for jobs they think suit you. Whether this would be done automatically I don't know. This is very different to other sites, because any matched job, the the ones the advisors find, and will almost certainly count as a matched job that you must apply for. I wonder if this could even be automatic?

    If you check the boxes which I don't know if are mandatory yet then they will be able to:

    - pass any detail you have entered into the website to anyone they feel like, ie NI number, full name, age, address, sexuality, anything you have told them through that website. They say that there will be a online equality test before you can access the home page. For what reasons do they need to store peoples race and sexual preferences online on a web serve? This is very private info.

    - they can contact any company on your behalf, for pretty much any reason.

    I find this quite outrageous, since the DWP already hold the most detailed database (I believe) in the world about the people who use it. They are notoriously bad for looking after this information and I can give numerous examples of this information being leaked in inappropriate ways.

    I feel quite able to manage my own Job search and I don't feel this approach really helps. If I were an employer I would not want to employ someone who needs to Jobcentre to do all this on their behalf.

    So... is there anything to say whether this scheme is actually mandatory yet? If anyone would like more details, they had 2 or 3 pages of info in the Jobs folders they where you wait to sign on... this is where I go my info from.
    Last edited by weeta_bix; 15-11-2012 at 11:07 AM.
  • art_for_arts_sake
    Universal Job Match? Most of the jobs I have worked in have been so esoteric that they bear little relation to each other. I'd challenge the DWP to find me a job based upon my experience.
  • MissSarah1972
    csmw posted at 1.49pm. S/he might have been on their lunch break. Or might have a day off....

    You come across as a very whiny and unpleasant person. Might be why you can't get a job...
    Originally posted by Mara69
    yeah thats why I have been in work since the age of 16 up till last year as I am so umpleasant and they can see that in a CV

    Well deduced
    • red devil
    • By red devil 15th Nov 12, 2:35 PM
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    red devil
    i am about to sign up?
    • red devil
    • By red devil 15th Nov 12, 3:26 PM
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    red devil
    what service do you select?
  • MissSarah1972
    what service do you select?
    Originally posted by red devil
    What do you mean?
    • red devil
    • By red devil 15th Nov 12, 3:52 PM
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    red devil
    it says select a service when youve registered?
  • MissSarah1972
    it says select a service when youve registered?
    Originally posted by red devil
    You can not register yet, its not started
  • Imani
    I so dislike the job centre website job search. All jobs are minimum wage. Also you call an 0845 number just to be told to go to a website and apply. makes no sense. I have only gotten interviews from jobs applied on other websites. FIngers cross I get a job soon. dealing with the government is stressful
    would love to be a home owner. hate private renting
    scared of debt. almost debt free.
    • red devil
    • By red devil 16th Nov 12, 1:04 PM
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    red devil
    You can not register yet, its not started
    Originally posted by MissSarah1972
    i have preregistered i was told you could but dont understand when it says select your service.
  • MissSarah1972
    i have preregistered i was told you could but dont understand when it says select your service.
    Originally posted by red devil
    Have you got a link then for that?
    • red devil
    • By red devil 16th Nov 12, 2:26 PM
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    red devil
    i cant as it will show my name and surname lol

    have you registered yet?
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