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    • gabriel73195
    • By gabriel73195 16th Apr 19, 1:07 AM
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    Does Windows have a setting that causes every single word you type to be sent to Microsoft servers?
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    • 16th Apr 19, 1:07 AM
    Does Windows have a setting that causes every single word you type to be sent to Microsoft servers? 16th Apr 19 at 1:07 AM
    Is there any truth in the notion that if you have the privacy settings set in a certain way that every single word you type on Windows 10 gets sent up to the Microsoft servers and stored forever?

    What about if you use your voice to speak to Cortana, does every word you utter into the microphone get permanently stored in the Microsoft servers?

    When reading the terms and conditions it seemed evasive and vague and didn't actually say in a clear easy to understand way. Or was this something that used to be the case and now they've thought better of it and don't do that any longer?

    I'm wondering if it's like Google search string queries where they say they are stored anonymously and securely as cryptographic hashes except what they don't tell you is that these "anonymous and secure cryptographic hashes" are easily reversible and that includes the IP address from where they came

    So five years after you searched for "Swingers sites" and your wifes divorce lawyer has got a court order to see those records then you're going to be out of luck because Google will provide them.
    Last edited by gabriel73195; 16-04-2019 at 2:23 AM.
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    • gabriel73195
    • By gabriel73195 16th Apr 19, 1:37 AM
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    • 16th Apr 19, 1:37 AM
    Does anybody else believe the echo and home can listen and upload these conversations to be stored?
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    • 16th Apr 19, 1:37 AM
    Does anybody else believe that there's a strong likelihood that the Google Home and the Amazon Echo can listen and record conversations and that a copy of these conversations are sent back to the mothership?

    Does anybody else think most likely the NSA and other relevant UK agencies are scooping up that intel but all of course "automated" so that when they say it's not listened to by humans it's ok.

    I personally think this is fairly likely. I wont' be purchasing one and I don't keep the smart TV part switched on either in case that to starts listening to me and uploading the conversations in my home.
    Last edited by gabriel73195; 16-04-2019 at 5:30 PM.
    • agrinnall
    • By agrinnall 16th Apr 19, 7:35 AM
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    • 16th Apr 19, 7:35 AM
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    • 16th Apr 19, 7:35 AM
    Have you invested heavily in tin hat shares and are trying to push up the price?



    • chrisw
    • By chrisw 16th Apr 19, 7:45 AM
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    • 16th Apr 19, 7:45 AM
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    • 16th Apr 19, 7:45 AM
    I don't know whether it does or not and I don't really care.

    I'm sure 'where's my socks?' and 'who's left the top off the toothpaste again?' are not issues of high national importance.

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    • Takmon
    • By Takmon 16th Apr 19, 7:45 AM
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    • 16th Apr 19, 7:45 AM
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    • 16th Apr 19, 7:45 AM
    Does anybody believe that there's a strong likelihood that the Google Home and the Amazon Echo listen and record conversations around them and that a copy of these conversations are permanently kept?

    Does anybody else think most likely the NSA and other relevant UK agencies are scooping up that intel but all of course "automated" so that when they say it's not listened to by humans it's ok.

    I personally think this is fairly likely. I wont' be purchasing one and I don't keep the smart TV part switched on either in case that to starts listening to me and uploading the conversations in my home.
    Originally posted by gabriel73195
    No this does not happen. Many people who know what they are doing have looked at the network traffic from Echos and Google Homes and have found that information is only sent to the servers after you have issued the wake up command.

    It's relatively simple to check yourself and see the amount of data is nowhere near enough for it to be sending constant audio recordings to the server.

    You can also check on the apps to see what each device has recorded and the commands it has recognised and what it hasn't.
    • John Gray
    • By John Gray 16th Apr 19, 8:36 AM
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    • 16th Apr 19, 8:36 AM
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    • 16th Apr 19, 8:36 AM
    Surely you should replace the word "Microsoft" by "GCHQ" throughout your post?

    What the world needs are better conspiracy theories!
    • John Gray
    • By John Gray 16th Apr 19, 8:40 AM
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    • 16th Apr 19, 8:40 AM
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    • 16th Apr 19, 8:40 AM
    I refer you to the post I made some moments earlier:

    What the world needs are better conspiracy theories!
    • RumRat
    • By RumRat 16th Apr 19, 8:42 AM
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    • 16th Apr 19, 8:42 AM
    Microsoft alone has 1.2 Billion users. Why would they be interested in individuals who like swinging......Your secret is safe.......
    Be more wary of your Government than MS or Google......Until they are your Government...
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    • RumRat
    • By RumRat 16th Apr 19, 8:47 AM
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    • 16th Apr 19, 8:47 AM
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    • 16th Apr 19, 8:47 AM
    Does anybody believe that there's a strong likelihood that the Google Home and the Amazon Echo listen and record conversations around them and that a copy of these conversations are permanently kept?

    Does anybody else think most likely the NSA and other relevant UK agencies are scooping up that intel but all of course "automated" so that when they say it's not listened to by humans it's ok.

    I personally think this is fairly likely. I wont' be purchasing one and I don't keep the smart TV part switched on either in case that to starts listening to me and uploading the conversations in my home.
    Originally posted by gabriel73195
    You know that worrying needlessly about these things shortens your life?
    The NSA and GCHQ will be monitoring this forum and know that you are keeping secrets. Best be very careful what you say.....
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    • -taff
    • By -taff 16th Apr 19, 8:59 AM
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    • Colin_Maybe
    • By Colin_Maybe 16th Apr 19, 9:00 AM
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    After looking at their posting history that's another idiot on my ignore list.
    • Le_Kirk
    • By Le_Kirk 16th Apr 19, 9:39 AM
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    Originally posted by -taff
    Central Intelligence Agency with that grammatical error!
    • Le_Kirk
    • By Le_Kirk 16th Apr 19, 9:45 AM
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    Is there any truth in the notion that if you have the privacy settings set in a certain way that every single word you type on Windows 10 gets sent up to the Microsoft servers and stored forever?
    Originally posted by gabriel73195
    If it was true, Microsoft would already have "fixed" Windows 10 given the number of complaints, especially about updates, that are typed into Google.
    • Jon 01
    • By Jon 01 16th Apr 19, 10:18 AM
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    According to the conspiracy theories anyone with an iPhone is being listened to all the time. That's why the CIA/NSA/FBI/ made Apple make it with a none removable battery.
    • DoaM
    • By DoaM 16th Apr 19, 11:10 AM
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    Central Intelligence Agency with that grammatical error!
    Originally posted by Le_Kirk
    Either you've mis-read (the CIA allegedly responded to the comment - they didn't make the original comment), or you're commenting on the fact that the word Intelligence in their name looks odd in their response. (Hard to tell if it's a capital or small letter I).

    Which is it? The latter I hope, else the joke's on you.
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    • wongataa
    • By wongataa 16th Apr 19, 11:37 AM
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    Is there any truth in the notion that if you have the privacy settings set in a certain way that every single word you type on Windows 10 gets sent up to the Microsoft servers and stored forever?
    Originally posted by gabriel73195
    Nope

    What about if you use your voice to speak to Cortana, does every word you utter into the microphone get permanently stored in the Microsoft servers?
    Originally posted by gabriel73195
    Nope.
    • Blackbeard of Perranporth
    • By Blackbeard of Perranporth 16th Apr 19, 11:40 AM
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    I can verify that my phone pad box thing does not listen when the current Mrs Blackbeard rings!
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    • agrinnall
    • By agrinnall 16th Apr 19, 11:55 AM
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    I can verify that my phone pad box thing does not listen when the current Mrs Blackbeard rings!
    Originally posted by Blackbeard of Perranporth

    But is the current Mrs Blackbeard listening when the previous Mrs Blackbeard rings?
    • droopsnoot
    • By droopsnoot 16th Apr 19, 12:14 PM
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    Have you any idea how much storage that would take?


    I keep some old junk that ought to be thrown out, but this notion takes hoarding to the next level.
    • gabriel73195
    • By gabriel73195 16th Apr 19, 12:18 PM
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    Perhaps this was/is an "urban legend" type situation and never was a "real thing" in which case that's fair enough if nobody has heard of this then in this instance perhaps I am being overly sceptical
    I do sell tin foil hats actually but they're bespoke and quite expensive
    Last edited by gabriel73195; 16-04-2019 at 12:27 PM.
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