TV Licencing Bullies
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I get one of these every month, they contain threats. I don't bother opening them now, I just bin them.
I have written, email, to my MP about this and removal of the licence for golden oldies and told him that as the Conservatives gave the BBC permission to do this I will never vote Conservative again.
Withdrawal of bus passes will be next.
Tell them nothing but do not break the law!
Fortyfoot0 -
I get one of these every month, they contain threats. I don't bother opening them now, I just bin them.
I have written, email, to my MP about this and removal of the licence for golden oldies and told him that as the Conservatives gave the BBC permission to do this I will never vote Conservative again.
Withdrawal of bus passes will be next.
Tell them nothing but do not break the law!
Fortyfoot
Wrong the Government gave them the BBC powers to enforce the fee on iplayer users and increase the fee in line with inflation in return for them the BBC to keep the concession to the over 75s,something the BBC have gone back on .
On the original point just say nothing to them and shut the door,bin every letter you get from them.
Plenty of videos on the net on how to deal with these people.0 -
... in return for them the BBC to keep the concession to the over 75s,something the BBC have gone back on .
The agreement was that the BBC would take on responsibility for the decision as to whether over 75s would continue to receive free Licences.
They are within their rights under the agreement to decide not to continue with free Licences, although it is wrong of them to blame the Government, since they agreed with the original proposal.0 -
Cornucopia wrote: »although it is wrong of them to blame the Government, since they agreed with the original proposal.
It's also wrong to blame the BBC for scrapping the free TV license, because the Government knew it was going to happen when they signed it over.0 -
Background: sick of the fare on BBC, their useless current affairs and news, no interest in dancing/sport/cookery/personalities/soaps I wrote to TV licencing and said I did not need a licence. What I understand about the general TV licencing law/rules is that you must NOT watch any live broadcast or watch something that was recorded live. The fact that the TV is plugged in is not relevant (and anyway it gets over the air updates that way).
So, in this day and age, I have apps on my Fire TV stick that allows me to watch France24, some of it is live and other bits pre-recorded. I can also on YouTube watch a feed from the Space Station live. Does that count? Am I forbidden to watch that? I don't see how the TV Licence can cover all and everything from around the globe. It does not impact on the production costs and infrastructure to support broadcasting in the UK.
I would define it (if it was up to me) as anything being transmitted by terrestrial aerials that has a live feed. This covers the PVR aspect - you cannot record and then watch without a licence.
All this is academic, as without 'packet sniffing' there is no way of knowing what you are watching fed down the internet.
I have managed quite well with catch-up, YouTube and various miscellaneous channels since the start of the year.0 -
Fairyliquid wrote: »What I understand about the general TV licencing law/rules is that you must NOT watch any live broadcast or watch something that was recorded live.So, in this day and age, I have apps on my Fire TV stick that allows me to watch France24, some of it is live and other bits pre-recorded.I can also on YouTube watch a feed from the Space Station live. Does that count? Am I forbidden to watch that?0
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Thanks,Cornucopia wrote: »Unfortunately, this is a common misconception (not helped by TV Licensing themselves using the misleading term "Live TV"). What they actually mean is Broadcast TV - that is any TV channel that can be received using a Satellite dish, Terrestrial aerial or Cable TV. It also includes the Internet streamed versions of those channels.
You cannot watch France24 without a TV Licence because it is a Broadcast TV channel.
No - that is fine because it isn't a broadcast channel (assuming that it isn't).
Really depends on the definition of 'Broadcast TV'. The way you (not personally of course) have defined it means almost anything you want it to mean. I still say that if it's not through an aerial then it's not broadcast. BBC3 is done exclusively through the iplayer anyway.
[The original detector vans worked on the side effects of the receiver TV tuning that required a local oscillator which was offset from the channel frequency by a fixed distance (standard for each country). It was that local osc that they could pick up and directional aerials could find the possible location. DTV works using multiplexors that share many channels on each frequency. As radio and data services are in the mix it is difficult to know what is being received I would suspect that the spill over of signals is much less.]0 -
Fairyliquid wrote: »Thanks,
But France24 has catchup programmes and documentaries so no different to ITV Hub? There is also the live channel of course, understand that is off limits.
Really depends on the definition of 'Broadcast TV'. The way you (not personally of course) have defined it means almost anything you want it to mean. I still say that if it's not through an aerial then it's not broadcast. BBC3 is done exclusively through the iplayer anyway.
[The original detector vans worked on the side effects of the receiver TV tuning that required a local oscillator which was offset from the channel frequency by a fixed distance (standard for each country). It was that local osc that they could pick up and directional aerials could find the possible location. DTV works using multiplexors that share many channels on each frequency. As radio and data services are in the mix it is difficult to know what is being received I would suspect that the spill over of signals is much less.]
You could try arguing that if you wish, but you would be wrong.Things that are differerent: draw & drawer, brought & bought, loose & lose, dose & does, payed & paid0 -
Steve123456789 wrote: »How do you make an official complaint without giving your name or email address?
You are making an issue when there isn't one. Just go online and declare that you don't need a TV License and that will be the end of it. The assumption that you do unless you advise otherwise I would imagine is based on the fact that almost all households do require a license. Therefore, as one of the exceptions, it makes sense that you declare as such.0 -
You are making an issue when there isn't one. Just go online and declare that you don't need a TV License and that will be the end of it. The assumption that you do unless you advise otherwise I would imagine is based on the fact that almost all households do require a license. Therefore, as one of the exceptions, it makes sense that you declare as such.
No need to contact them at all, ever. Just ignore.
Licence - noun
License - verbThings that are differerent: draw & drawer, brought & bought, loose & lose, dose & does, payed & paid1
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