Leaving a job is a breach of a "permanent" contract...

MatthewAinsworth wrote: »

Hi everyone

I feel the expectation of an employer to honour a permanent contract eternally (As other posters have pointed out, your opening point is wholly mistaken - there is no such thing as a permanent contract. Is it necessary to continue? Let's assume it is.) but not the employee is wrong in law (It can't be wrong in law as that is what the law is. What point are you trying to make?). If you were to leave a phone contract prematurely you'd have to buy it out, (because that is what the T&Cs you agreed to, say, but employment law is different!) why do we not have the same with employment too? The employer should be able to sue the employee the value of the work they're nolonger providing, for as long as the contract would otherwise apply (I.e. in perpetuity) As explained above, no contract can apply in perpetuity. What happens when one of the parties die? Do the employees children have to start working for their deceased parent's employer? And if the employer died, they'd have to keep paying their employees?).

This would increase the supply of labour which would help keep wages (What about price inflation?) and conditions under control, which would ultimately help everybody's investments (Neither I nor my wife have any anything other than trivial investments amounting to about £100 dividends pa. Are you bonkers?). With this change employers wouldn't be forced to increase wages unless it was stipulated in contract

MatthewAinsworth wrote: »

Manxman -

Not desperate, just opportunistic. Not worried, just prepared and responsible with my aggressive investment strategy Good luck with that aggressive strategy - you may need it.



Raising questions is how you learn knowledge, I'm not ashamed to not know and ask, or have a contrarian view to test I think asking questions in areas of ignorance is a good way of improving one's knowledge - so is taking a sceptical POV. But if you refuse to accept what others tell you, it seems a bit pointless asking the question in the first place. In your OP you seemed to be under the entirely mistaken misapprehension that something called "permanent" employment contracts exist under English and Welsh law. As other multiple posters have told you, there simply is no such thing - so wanting to "debate" their "legality" is completely futile (unless you are a Law Lord in the Supreme Court).

What is fmotl out of interest? I thought you may have been a follower of a bunch of delusionals who believe that statute law does not apply to them (unless they've "contracted in") and that the only "real" law is common law. I was probably mistaken in your case.



Does anything actually say that contracts can't continue in perpetuity? An employee seems to have a right to keep the job in perpetuity, at least until death anyway The law says so.

I think some contracts do get inherited, or the debt could be levied against the estate until the estate goes bankrupt How can contracts or debts be inherited? They can't, but lawful debts can be recovered against a deceased's estate. But the debts you are discussing aren't lawful because...they aren't lawful.



Inflation in this case will benefit the employer as a real wages cut year on year Well I've always been an employee so I'm not impressed by this argument!



1 - I advise you put more into a diversified passive fund at a risk level you can tolerate I have no desire whatsoever to follow your ill-informed advice.

2 - do you have a pension? If it's defined contribution, it's invested My wife and I don't have defined contribution pensions. We are entirely content with the pensions (and other assets) we have, thank you.