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    • kitchpoo
    • By kitchpoo 18th Jun 08, 8:51 PM
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    Married Quarters (MQ) Residents
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    • 18th Jun 08, 8:51 PM
    Married Quarters (MQ) Residents 18th Jun 08 at 8:51 PM
    I work for MHS (If you are in Married Quarters in the UK you'll know who we are and what we do) as a Technical Officer , if you have any issues regarding quarters and what MHS should be doing please dont hesitate to contact me.
    Praying at the church of MSE should be compulsory!

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  • johng_uk
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    • 18th Jun 08, 8:54 PM
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    • 18th Jun 08, 8:54 PM
    I work for MHS (If you are in Married Quarters in the UK you'll know who we are and what we do) as a Technical Officer , if you have any issues regarding quarters and what MHS should be doing please dont hesitate to contact me.
    Originally posted by kitchpoo
    Hi and thanks for opening this thread!
    John

    Life's too short.........
  • angelaharding85
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    • 19th Jun 08, 5:42 PM
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    • 19th Jun 08, 5:42 PM
    Thanks Kitchpoo. We live in married quarters and have found asbestos in our bath & roof! Have phoned to complain and told someone will be out 10-15 days!!! Isn't asbestos illegal?!

    Thanks
    • MTW
    • By MTW 20th Jun 08, 12:39 AM
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    • 20th Jun 08, 12:39 AM
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    • 20th Jun 08, 12:39 AM
    Asbestos is very emotive stuff and there are several different types. It can't be used in new builds but it would have been impossible to remove it completely as it was widely used up to about 1970.
    It is still contained in many older buildings and people rub along with it without problem.

    It is most dangerous in minute particles (respirable dust) so unless it is breaking up I would not panic to much.

    see the link for further info
    http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/HomeAndCommunity/Planning/DoingWorkYourself/DG_10022562
  • angelaharding85
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    • 20th Jun 08, 7:31 AM
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    • 20th Jun 08, 7:31 AM
    I understand what you mean MTW, but I would have expected better! Also, if it is now illegal to buy a house with it (I preume ok if buyer is made aware) then I'm angry army have put us here knowing and not said anything!

    Mind you I expect anything from them!! LOL
  • johng_uk
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    • 20th Jun 08, 9:05 AM
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    • 20th Jun 08, 9:05 AM
    Thanks Kitchpoo. We live in married quarters and have found asbestos in our bath & roof! Have phoned to complain and told someone will be out 10-15 days!!! Isn't asbestos illegal?!

    Thanks
    Originally posted by angelaharding85
    We were staying at RAF Coltishall a few years back. The strip light in the kitchen went completely, Due to the asbestos in the roof, they had to strap another light fitting onto the fitting that already existed. This was because they couldn't rip the old fitting out due to asbestos!

    I think you'll find a lot of the old quarters riddled with this, and yes it is highly dangerous which is why they can't work with it. I think it's only dangerous when converted into particle form - i.e. when it's cut up, sanded etc.
    John

    Life's too short.........
    • kitchpoo
    • By kitchpoo 20th Jun 08, 6:14 PM
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    • 20th Jun 08, 6:14 PM
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    • 20th Jun 08, 6:14 PM
    Thanks Kitchpoo. We live in married quarters and have found asbestos in our bath & roof! Have phoned to complain and told someone will be out 10-15 days!!! Isn't asbestos illegal?!

    Thanks
    Originally posted by angelaharding85
    The previous poster did cover most of the issues, but yes, the loft in MQ's should be off limits anyway. Quarters are randomly tested for asbestos content and risk assessed. If it is left alone it poses no risk to occupant. If you have concerns you can ask the helpdesk, or if they raise a survey for a Tech officer, to look on the asbestos register which should denote the grade of asbestos.

    If I told you how many things contain asbestos you would be amazed, especially in army quarters.
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    • kitchpoo
    • By kitchpoo 20th Jun 08, 6:16 PM
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    • 20th Jun 08, 6:16 PM
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    • 20th Jun 08, 6:16 PM
    I understand what you mean MTW, but I would have expected better! Also, if it is now illegal to buy a house with it (I preume ok if buyer is made aware) then I'm angry army have put us here knowing and not said anything!

    Mind you I expect anything from them!! LOL
    Originally posted by angelaharding85
    This sounds like an education matter for the Housing Officer, On Move-ins with some Housing Officers they inform of the possible Asbestos Content, but some dont. In your housing pack there should be a page describing the potential risks and this should be gone through at hand over by the Housing Officer.
    Praying at the church of MSE should be compulsory!

    There are three types of people in the world, those who can add up and those who can't.
    • kitchpoo
    • By kitchpoo 20th Jun 08, 6:21 PM
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    • 20th Jun 08, 6:21 PM
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    • 20th Jun 08, 6:21 PM
    We were staying at RAF Coltishall a few years back. The strip light in the kitchen went completely, Due to the asbestos in the roof, they had to strap another light fitting onto the fitting that already existed. This was because they couldn't rip the old fitting out due to asbestos!

    I think you'll find a lot of the old quarters riddled with this, and yes it is highly dangerous which is why they can't work with it. I think it's only dangerous when converted into particle form - i.e. when it's cut up, sanded etc.
    Originally posted by johng_uk
    My neck of the woods!!

    Up to about 2 years ago the Health and Safety Exec treated all asbestos as the most dangerous type, even if its content and risk was low, this was then relaxed to reflect the low content and risk associated with the asbestos grade. On the lowest grade, such as asbestos in artex, it can now be worked on by the standard workforce (and not treated like nuclear waste, occupant move out, taped up, air monitors, full suits, and qualified staff costing 2000 + per ceiling removal!). As long as the correct risk assessment and proceedures are used - it usually involves PVA coating the area, and using like a plastic bubble over the working area. Disposal still has to comply with higher regulations though.
    Praying at the church of MSE should be compulsory!

    There are three types of people in the world, those who can add up and those who can't.
  • lopez75
    Hi,
    I want to find out when my bathroom was fitted and kitchen as they are in an awful state. And I would like to know when my MQ was last redecorated. Who do I contact? MHS or the Housing Officer?

    Many thanks.
  • johng_uk
    My neck of the woods!!

    Up to about 2 years ago the Health and Safety Exec treated all asbestos as the most dangerous type, even if its content and risk was low, this was then relaxed to reflect the low content and risk associated with the asbestos grade. On the lowest grade, such as asbestos in artex, it can now be worked on by the standard workforce (and not treated like nuclear waste, occupant move out, taped up, air monitors, full suits, and qualified staff costing 2000 + per ceiling removal!). As long as the correct risk assessment and proceedures are used - it usually involves PVA coating the area, and using like a plastic bubble over the working area. Disposal still has to comply with higher regulations though.
    Originally posted by kitchpoo
    We were there from late 2004 - mid 2006
    John

    Life's too short.........
    • kitchpoo
    • By kitchpoo 20th Jun 08, 10:05 PM
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    Hi,
    I want to find out when my bathroom was fitted and kitchen as they are in an awful state. And I would like to know when my MQ was last redecorated. Who do I contact? MHS or the Housing Officer?

    Many thanks.
    Originally posted by lopez75
    That will be the Housing Officer - via the housing information centre.

    Unfortunately DE wont replace items on age, but will on delapidation. I have some properties I oversee with painted kitchen cupboards circa 1970, formica worktops! But if they are hygenic and in working order under MHS they should remain in place and be maintained, or DE has to pay for the revamp.
    Praying at the church of MSE should be compulsory!

    There are three types of people in the world, those who can add up and those who can't.
  • angelaharding85
    Our kitchen has rotting wood and we often find woodlouse on our cooker top!! Surely that means a new kitchen?

    Also we don't have a shower, I called and said I was 5 months pregnant and struggling to get in the bath and could we have a shower and they said no LOL so had to wash hair with a glass!!!
  • johng_uk
    Our kitchen has rotting wood and we often find woodlouse on our cooker top!! Surely that means a new kitchen?

    Also we don't have a shower, I called and said I was 5 months pregnant and struggling to get in the bath and could we have a shower and they said no LOL so had to wash hair with a glass!!!
    Originally posted by angelaharding85

    A glass that's terrible!!

    Water pours far better out a jug you know..............

    Sorry - I'm a terrible joker! But it was a joke nonetheless
    John

    Life's too short.........
    • kitchpoo
    • By kitchpoo 21st Jun 08, 7:23 PM
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    Our kitchen has rotting wood and we often find woodlouse on our cooker top!! Surely that means a new kitchen?

    Also we don't have a shower, I called and said I was 5 months pregnant and struggling to get in the bath and could we have a shower and they said no LOL so had to wash hair with a glass!!!
    Originally posted by angelaharding85
    As a minimum starting point I recommend contacting the HIC (not MHS) and ask when your rent was last graded. Property rent is based upon set criteria points, if the points total is high then the rent reflect this. So a 20+ year old kitchen scores a certain number of points, as does the lack of shower, focal point fire etc etc. So at least you are not out of pocket any more than you have to be and you are not paying for what you haven't got.

    Next - I would request via the MHS route a Technical Officer surveyor to come and assess the kitchen. And if it is rotten beyond repair it can be changed as a response repair. Note - if it is not wholesale kitchen replacement, if it is a certain unit or worktop they will change those alone and may / probably wont match anything existing.

    As for the shower - if you have approached MHS that is the correct answer, the contract is to maintain what is there. If it isnt there then DE have to pay for it through an Incidental New Works order, (INW). I have yet to have a property where a request for a shower has been granted as part of the problem for DE is the snowball effect - if one house has one - then all should.
    The only way round this I have encountered in one instance was an occupant willing to pay for their own installation by an NICEIC qualified electrician and a CORGI plumber with the correct paperwork following and the commitment to remove and revert to standard at move out. This was arranged by DE technical level, not the local housing officer. A note was placed on the DE house file for future reference.

    I hope this helps a bit.
    Praying at the church of MSE should be compulsory!

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    • kitchpoo
    • By kitchpoo 22nd Jun 08, 10:36 AM
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    Folks. If you have to contact the helpdesk, regarding a specific fault or something which is broken please can you have at hand the MOD handbook that should be in each quarter. If youhave not got one you can download and browse a copy online at http://www.modernhousingsolutions.com/property_services/Progress_Information_Occupants.asp
    This has ilustrations of heating systems, common parts and componants are labelled. This will assist MHS to turn up with the right parts for the job first time. Thus only 1 appointment. This keeps our costs down and is beneficial for all.
    Praying at the church of MSE should be compulsory!

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    • montymud
    • By montymud 23rd Jun 08, 7:48 PM
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    I think Modern Housing Soloutions are superb, I have only had to call them out twice but both times they did a very professional top notch job and they are all really lovely! I am in Bordon at the moment and I love my 3 bed house, the garden is on a slope but, hey I have a garden for the kids and the dog so I'm not complaining! Got a really nice power shower too, the bath is HUGE and the kitchen a really decent size, there is not much actual room for big appliances, have to stack the tumble dryer on the washing machine but thats cool, and my dishwasher has been put in the shed as can't use it here, no room! But thats a luxury at the end of the day and it's cool washing up. Think I might sell the dishwasher to make more room in the shed for the kids toys!
    • kitchpoo
    • By kitchpoo 23rd Jun 08, 9:12 PM
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    I think Modern Housing Soloutions are superb, I have only had to call them out twice but both times they did a very professional top notch job and they are all really lovely! I am in Bordon at the moment and I love my 3 bed house, the garden is on a slope but, hey I have a garden for the kids and the dog so I'm not complaining! Got a really nice power shower too, the bath is HUGE and the kitchen a really decent size, there is not much actual room for big appliances, have to stack the tumble dryer on the washing machine but thats cool, and my dishwasher has been put in the shed as can't use it here, no room! But thats a luxury at the end of the day and it's cool washing up. Think I might sell the dishwasher to make more room in the shed for the kids toys!
    Originally posted by montymud
    Always nice to hear good things - I tend to only get to hear about the things that go wrong and it is easy to become a bit negative. Dont brag too much about some of the things (power shower, appliance space etc), as it is entirely luck of the draw and where you are stationed and is beyond MHS's control. In an ideal world DE would like to provide that standard to all.
    Praying at the church of MSE should be compulsory!

    There are three types of people in the world, those who can add up and those who can't.
  • angelaharding85
    Power shower? Blimey we haven't even got a shower....and I told them when I was pg how was I meant to get in and out of bath and they didn't care!!!!
  • lopez75
    That will be the Housing Officer - via the housing information centre.

    Unfortunately DE wont replace items on age, but will on delapidation. I have some properties I oversee with painted kitchen cupboards circa 1970, formica worktops! But if they are hygenic and in working order under MHS they should remain in place and be maintained, or DE has to pay for the revamp.
    Originally posted by kitchpoo
    Many thanks, I might give them a ring and see what I can find out. We are on the move soon and I don't want to be stung for things that were going to be done anyway. :rolleyes:
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