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    • davilown
    • By davilown 17th Feb 09, 11:27 PM
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    Afprb 2009
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    • 17th Feb 09, 11:27 PM
    Afprb 2009 17th Feb 09 at 11:27 PM
    Does anyone know when the Armed Forces Pay Review Body reports to Parliament? It get's later and later each year ( though not a major problem as they pay the increase from Apr).
    Just get the feeling we will feel the brunt of the economic crisis this government has put us in.
    Back in Debt £214,500 on a £230,900 mortgage) Overpayment £37 pm - Aim to be Mortgage free by 2034
    £27000/£27000 paid off Feb 2010 since LBM Jan 2007!
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  • Throw-a-apanner
    Still no news on the AFPRB?

    I suggest that we start writing to the newspapers....

    This is a useful link: http://www.ome.uk.com/review.cfm?body=3

    Notice how much the PM appointed team get paid c£300 per day each!!
    • Ivrytwr3
    • By Ivrytwr3 6th Mar 09, 8:51 AM
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    Ivrytwr3
    on the AArse forum they have posted that it will not be released until mid to late March; great!
  • mannews
    I don't think it matters when they publish it. There will be rumblings in the media either way, no one in the public likes to see the armed forces being treated badly but give them a pay rise and they will wonder why they didn't get one. You can't win. Fingers crossed anyway. The commitment today is well under paid and I don't think anything they give is enough.
    • Ivrytwr3
    • By Ivrytwr3 7th Mar 09, 8:03 AM
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    Ivrytwr3
    of course it matters when they publish it, we want to know what, if any, pay rise we are getting!!

    (it is normally published in Feb!!)

    But thanks for the support.
  • mannews
    I don't mean it in that way Ivrytwr3, of course everyone wants to know, but if you read what I said it refered to the media and general public and thier opinions.
  • bigarnie
    End of this week beginning of next.
    Looking at this site

    http://www.publicappts-vacs.gov.uk/(mlayj445idurqy55e5myjx55)/search.aspx which lists the vacancies for the various boards. It looks as if one of the chairmen and various seats have stood down. Could this be a bad thing?. Anyway the board will vote on its new members after the 20th therefore it summises that the report can only be just before (most likely) or just after the 20th so that voting etc can take place on the week starting monday 23rd. That is if the government doesnt step in and throw spanners in the works then we could be looking as late as the 27th for the release. £350 a day these noggins are on.
  • Gnd
    No report but info
    2% is your payrise
    2% is the maximum it will be as it is not allowed to be above the rate of inflation. It will come out very soon

    This was posted on another military site (I have no idea if it is correct or not!!) and the poster 'claimed' to be in a place to know - AFPRB out on the 20 03 09
    • ICATQ
    • By ICATQ 17th Mar 09, 5:55 PM
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    ICATQ
    2.6% is being banded about by 'reliable' sources elsewhere.....

    My MP has failed to respond to my emails on the matter.
    • Vixstar
    • By Vixstar 17th Mar 09, 6:45 PM
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    Vixstar
    I have seen 2.6% on a monthly summary document but not on anything more official.
  • tartanterra
    2% is your payrise
    2% is the maximum it will be as it is not allowed to be above the rate of inflation. It will come out very soon

    This was posted on another military site (I have no idea if it is correct or not!!) and the poster 'claimed' to be in a place to know - AFPRB out on the 20 03 09
    Originally posted by Gnd
    The AFPRB have to take account of various factors including inflation, however, the pay rise is allowed to be above inflation, and it has been - several times.


    TERMS OF REFERENCE
    The Armed Forcesí Pay Review Body provides independent advice to the Prime Minister and the Secretary of State for Defence on the remuneration and charges for members of the Naval, Military and Air Forces of the Crown.
    In reaching its recommendations, the Review Body is to have regard to the following considerations:
    • the need to recruit, retain and motivate suitably able and qualified people taking account of the particular circumstances of Service life;
    • Government policies for improving public services, including the requirement on the Ministry of Defence to meet the output targets for the delivery of departmental services;
    • the funds available to the Ministry of Defence as set out in the Governmentís departmental expenditure limits; and
    • the Governmentís inflation target.
    No mention of "not allowed"! Inflation must be taken account, but not slavishly followed.
    Nothing is foolproof, as fools are so ingenious!
    • VfM4meplse
    • By VfM4meplse 17th Mar 09, 7:03 PM
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    Maybe the some resource could be redeployed to addressing this area if tracking AWOLs down wasn't such a priority.
    • ICATQ
    • By ICATQ 17th Mar 09, 9:43 PM
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    ICATQ
    Maybe the some resource could be redeployed to addressing this area if tracking AWOLs down wasn't such a priority.
    Originally posted by VfM4meplse
    Generally it isnt.
  • thesmiddy
    I have seen 2.6% on a monthly summary document but not on anything more official.
    Originally posted by Vixstar
    I have seen this too, I think it is referring to last year although it does not make this clear!
    • ICATQ
    • By ICATQ 18th Mar 09, 11:09 PM
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    ICATQ
    Parliament 16 Mar 09
    Patrick Mercer: To ask the Secretary of State for Defence on what date the Armed Forces Pay Review Body submitted its 2009 report on armed forces pay to his Department; and when his Department plans to publish (a) the report and (b) its response to the reportís recommendations. [263888]

    Mr. Lidington: To ask the Secretary of State for Defence on what date he received the report of the Armed Forces Pay Review Body for 2008; on what date he proposes to publish the report; and if he will make a statement. [263810]


    16 Mar 2009 : Column 829W

    Mr. Hutton: The Armed Forces Pay Review Body submitted its report for 2009 to the Prime Minister and Secretary of State for Defence on 29 January 2009. The Government intend to make only one public sector pay award announcement this year and this will be made in due course.
    • Thumper7
    • By Thumper7 19th Mar 09, 3:52 PM
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    Thumper7
    Parliament 16 Mar 09
    Patrick Mercer: To ask the Secretary of State for Defence on what date the Armed Forces Pay Review Body submitted its 2009 report on armed forces pay to his Department; and when his Department plans to publish (a) the report and (b) its response to the reportís recommendations. [263888]

    Mr. Lidington: To ask the Secretary of State for Defence on what date he received the report of the Armed Forces Pay Review Body for 2008; on what date he proposes to publish the report; and if he will make a statement. [263810]


    16 Mar 2009 : Column 829W

    Mr. Hutton: The Armed Forces Pay Review Body submitted its report for 2009 to the Prime Minister and Secretary of State for Defence on 29 January 2009. The Government intend to make only one public sector pay award announcement this year and this will be made in due course.


    What a bloody cop out.
    • ICATQ
    • By ICATQ 19th Mar 09, 5:13 PM
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    ICATQ
    Parliament 16 Mar 09
    Patrick Mercer: To ask the Secretary of State for Defence on what date the Armed Forces Pay Review Body submitted its 2009 report on armed forces pay to his Department; and when his Department plans to publish (a) the report and (b) its response to the reportís recommendations. [263888]

    Mr. Lidington: To ask the Secretary of State for Defence on what date he received the report of the Armed Forces Pay Review Body for 2008; on what date he proposes to publish the report; and if he will make a statement. [263810]



    16 Mar 2009 : Column 829W

    Mr. Hutton: The Armed Forces Pay Review Body submitted its report for 2009 to the Prime Minister and Secretary of State for Defence on 29 January 2009. The Government intend to make only one public sector pay award announcement this year and this will be made in due course.


    What a bloody cop out.
    Originally posted by Thumper7
    Yep, sneak it out along with the rest so it doesnt look as bad....they hope!Who do they think they are trying to deceive?
  • archived user
    I'm in HR and I've heard 2.4% from a reasonably reliable source
    • ktuludays
    • By ktuludays 20th Mar 09, 12:49 PM
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    ktuludays
    it's 2.6% with a 1% increase for x factor

    look here.
    http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/AboutDefence/CorporatePublications/PolicyStrategyandPlanning/TopLevelMessages/

    march 09 document page 9
    You got to get through what you've got to go through to get what you want but you got to know what you want to get through what you got to go through.
    • Andy L
    • By Andy L 20th Mar 09, 1:42 PM
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    Andy L
    That was the 2008 pay rise.
    http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/DefenceNews/DefencePolicyAndBusiness/PayRiseForEveryoneInTheArmedForces.htm
  • debtfreein2009
    it's 2.6% with a 1% increase for x factor

    look here.
    http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/AboutDefence/CorporatePublications/PolicyStrategyandPlanning/TopLevelMessages/

    march 09 document page 9
    Originally posted by ktuludays

    It looks like it's planned, but i don't understand why it hasn't be announced in the media.
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