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    • MSE Callum
    • By MSE Callum 2nd Oct 19, 1:16 PM
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    Tesco announces Clubcard Plus loyalty subscription service - MSE News
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    • 2nd Oct 19, 1:16 PM
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    Tesco announces Clubcard Plus loyalty subscription service - MSE News 2nd Oct 19 at 1:16 PM
    Tesco is launching a new Clubcard Plus subscription service, which gives customers a number of perks including discounted shopping, for a £7.99/mth fee...
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    • PasturesNew
    • By PasturesNew 12th Oct 19, 6:45 PM
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    All cards, all schemes, are just b****x
    • Zero Sum
    • By Zero Sum 12th Oct 19, 9:22 PM
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    I have no idea where you get that 10% from. Eggs are a very poor example - even Sainsbury's and Waitrose know that you price eggs as low as possible because people use that price as a yardstick.

    A quick trip to Google will reveal the countless comparisons that have shown Aldi is usually (not always) the cheapest in the UK.

    But just as our own dear government manipulates its 'typical shopping basket' to skew the inflation figures the way it wants, a lot depends on what you elect to buy.

    With my own shopping I know for certain that the savings I make from picking Aldi over Tesco (which came 5th in the Which? Feb 2019 comparison that didn't even include Aldi and Lidl!) is in the region of 20% on a equal quality for price shop.
    Originally posted by A. Badger
    A few years back when Aldi were on mysupermarket I did a bit of an analysis. I found that there were loads of stuff that was pretty much the same price or that Aldi was a few pence cheaper. Ive tried many of the aldi products & for most part theyre of similar quality (some of Aldis non food products are quite poor) this is backed up by blind taste tests on programmes like eat well for less.
    Anyway, I found that a mock £40 shop in Tesco would cost about £36 in Aldi.

    The thing with Aldi is that people do a shop in the main supermarkets buying big brands then go to aldi who only sell own brands then come out saying oooh Ive saved 40%. When if theyd just bought own brand in the first place the saving would be about 10%

    Btw same box of eggs are £1.35 in Sainsburys.
    • A. Badger
    • By A. Badger 13th Oct 19, 10:52 AM
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    A few years back when Aldi were on mysupermarket I did a bit of an analysis. I found that there were loads of stuff that was pretty much the same price or that Aldi was a few pence cheaper. Ive tried many of the aldi products & for most part theyre of similar quality (some of Aldis non food products are quite poor) this is backed up by blind taste tests on programmes like eat well for less.
    Anyway, I found that a mock £40 shop in Tesco would cost about £36 in Aldi.
    Originally posted by Zero Sum
    As I said, my own experience suggests something closer to a 20% saving. Most posters on MSE seem to claim similar savings. I would suggest your shopping basket is atypical.

    As for Aldi's non-food products being 'quite poor' perhaps you could be specific? I have tried everything from washing powder to a freezer and have yet to find one that was inferior.


    The thing with Aldi is that people do a shop in the main supermarkets buying big brands then go to aldi who only sell own brands then come out saying oooh Ive saved 40%. When if theyd just bought own brand in the first place the saving would be about 10%
    Originally posted by Zero Sum
    As a former Tesco/Sainsbury's customer I have compared both supermarkets' own brand offerings with Aldi's. With few exceptions, Aldi's are superior. Aldi's business model depends on this being the case and judging by the number of shoppers leaving the big four in Aldi (and Lidl's) favour, it seems many millions of shoppers are convinced by it. They aren't all idiots.
    • DragonQ
    • By DragonQ 30th Oct 19, 9:14 AM
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    Considering my weekly shop is typically somewhere around £80 I'd definitely save money by getting Clubcard Plus. I also save ~4% using reloadable gift cards via a work scheme (although I don't know if I can use that payment method with Clubcard Plus). Basically with Clubcard Plus and the reloadable gift cards I reckon I'd save ~£5 per ~£80 weekly shop. I suspect Lidl/Aldi would provide a bigger saving than that.

    However, the problem for me is that my local Tesco is a 5 minute drive away. The nearest Aldi or Lidl is a 15 minute drive. The Tesco is right next to a Morrisons but otherwise there's no real competition around here. It also has the cheapest fuel station around here and it's in the opposite direction to my commute so filling up after a weekly shop works best for me.
    Last edited by DragonQ; 30-10-2019 at 11:32 AM.
    • Bacman
    • By Bacman 30th Oct 19, 2:55 PM
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    Two things come to mind - one are the "excluded" items they won't give the discount on and secondly if they are likely to change the level in a few month's time to make it less of interest.


    Personally, I shop mostly at Asda as their prices are comparable with the discount retailers on most items but have considerably more choice; Sainsburys, Tesco and Morrisons cost a lot more so only worth going to for special offers or if get money off vouchers.
    • chattychappy
    • By chattychappy 30th Oct 19, 6:01 PM
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    Two things come to mind - one are the "excluded" items they won't give the discount on and secondly if they are likely to change the level in a few month's time to make it less of interest.
    Originally posted by Bacman
    I'm sure that's part of the business model. Get people hooked on something that might be of benefit, then notch up the fees or down the benefits and hope that the lazy British consumer (most are) through inertia won't get around to cancelling.
    • Doc N
    • By Doc N 30th Oct 19, 8:26 PM
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    Personally, I shop mostly at Asda as their prices are comparable with the discount retailers on most items but have considerably more choice; Sainsburys, Tesco and Morrisons cost a lot more so only worth going to for special offers or if get money off vouchers.
    Originally posted by Bacman
    Sorry to disillusion you but away from the very few items which supermarkets have to be competitive on, because they're frequent purchases and people tend to remember the price, Asda prices certainly aren't comparable with Aldi and Lidl.

    Unless of course we're taking overpriced brands, and that's not what the so-called 'discounters' are all about.
    • Sky Dragon
    • By Sky Dragon 31st Oct 19, 8:02 AM
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    ...

    Tesco also regularly send us 10%-20% off conditional spend coupons, typically with week 1 coupons being £6 off £30 or £8 off £40 and the final weeks being £3/£4 off.
    Originally posted by karlie88
    ...but will they drop those conditional spend coupons for normal card holders and/or make them available to Clubcard Plus holders....

    I'm guessing these will disappear to push people to Clubcard Plus.
    • Zero Sum
    • By Zero Sum 2nd Nov 19, 12:25 AM
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    As I said, my own experience suggests something closer to a 20% saving. Most posters on MSE seem to claim similar savings. I would suggest your shopping basket is atypical.

    As for Aldi's non-food products being 'quite poor' perhaps you could be specific? I have tried everything from washing powder to a freezer and have yet to find one that was inferior.




    As a former Tesco/Sainsbury's customer I have compared both supermarkets' own brand offerings with Aldi's. With few exceptions, Aldi's are superior. Aldi's business model depends on this being the case and judging by the number of shoppers leaving the big four in Aldi (and Lidl's) favour, it seems many millions of shoppers are convinced by it. They aren't all idiots.
    Originally posted by A. Badger
    Bleach & shower gel are woefully watery. Toilet paper was waifer thin (Farmfoods is same price & far superior)
    I post on another football forum & there another poster also agrees with my 10% claim. I genuinly think theres a psycological thing with it & downgrading brands.

    Ive made this point several times before but when they do blind taste test on programmes like eat well for less, the 2 discounters are usually in the middle somewhere which does suggest that theyre pretty much the same as other supmarkets.

    Are people leaving the big 4 in significant numbers? Aldi & Lidl's market share is still fairly small.
    • Doc N
    • By Doc N 2nd Nov 19, 6:14 AM
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    Bleach & shower gel are woefully watery. Toilet paper was waifer thin (Farmfoods is same price & far superior)
    I post on another football forum & there another poster also agrees with my 10% claim. I genuinly think theres a psycological thing with it & downgrading brands.

    Ive made this point several times before but when they do blind taste test on programmes like eat well for less, the 2 discounters are usually in the middle somewhere which does suggest that theyre pretty much the same as other supmarkets.

    Are people leaving the big 4 in significant numbers? Aldi & Lidl's market share is still fairly small.
    Originally posted by Zero Sum
    You have to know the products. As with all supermarkets there's a range of qualities and prices. The Aldi 24 pack of toilet rolls sold at £5.29 is as good, if not better than, any brand.

    Market share might surprise you. Aldi's overtake both Waitrose and the Co-op, and Lidl's now overtime the Co-op too. Neither is far behind Morrisons.

    Given that they're relatively new to the UK, with a smaller number of smaller shops they're still serious trouble for the big boys:

    www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article-7577095/amp/Big-Four-lose-Aldi-Lidl-Market-share-hits-15-year-low.html
    • Zero Sum
    • By Zero Sum 2nd Nov 19, 9:18 AM
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    You have to know the products. As with all supermarkets there's a range of qualities and prices. The Aldi 24 pack of toilet rolls sold at £5.29 is as good, if not better than, any brand.

    Market share might surprise you. Aldi's overtake both Waitrose and the Co-op, and Lidl's now overtime the Co-op too. Neither is far behind Morrisons.

    Given that they're relatively new to the UK, with a smaller number of smaller shops they're still serious trouble for the big boys:

    www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article-7577095/amp/Big-Four-lose-Aldi-Lidl-Market-share-hits-15-year-low.html
    Originally posted by Doc N
    Im not surprised theyre ahead of Waitrose & co-op. I wouldnt class co-op as a supermarket as they tend to be smaller than Tesco metros & are more a gloryfied corner shop. Waitrose dont have any presence in large parts of the country. The nearest one to me is about 15 miles away.
    • petermasih
    • By petermasih 5th Nov 19, 10:23 PM
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    Discriminatory against vulnerable?
    It looks discriminatory to me...
    - against older folk and those with learning difficulties who can't use smartphone apps
    - against those who struggle with their finances or have only a small fridge so have to buy from Tesco "little and often"
    - against people who are too ill to cancel their direct debit when they become unable to get to their store
    Have I left anyone out?

    I would be quids in. So am very attracted. But I wonder whether a boycott and protest might be the best way forward.

    Any suggestions?
    • Brewer20
    • By Brewer20 7th Nov 19, 9:46 PM
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    Just sign up and try it, I have. Try it if it doesn't suit you can cancel, it's a monthly rolling payment.
    Incidentally it became active today, I'm off to try it tomorrow.
    Lidl and Aldi don't excite me one bit, tried them out, Asda are a bit hit and miss for stocking up the basics but I always buy my beer from there, Sainsbury's always a little more expensive so are Morrisons on some items. On the whole Tesco gives me the value for money items I want, coupled with their mobile sim only and their bank account (points using their debit card) I've got loads of vouchers to spend on my days out or meals out, win win.
    • od244051
    • By od244051 8th Nov 19, 9:31 AM
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    If the only supermarket in your area is Tesco and spend quite a lot of money there, then its worth doing.

    I won't bother as hardly spend anything there, unless I get money off coupons in the post. I don't understand how if I am not spending money there, how come my money off coupons went from £40 to £80?
    • tghe-retford
    • By tghe-retford 10th Nov 19, 6:47 PM
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    When I first saw the concept of Amazon Prime and then minimum spends and subscription services for deliveries, I did think that we would see the eventual transition to supermarkets adopting a "as a service" business model. Clubcard Plus is just another step toward that model.

    Wouldn't surprise me if the long term (decades) plan is to mothball supermarkets into local delivery hubs (reducing staff costs) paid for through a subscription fee and mandatory minimum spend levels. Plus, small, low staff numbered (or even automated) but much more expensive convenience stores for small shops (with discounts for subscribers) in the same vein as Tesco Express or Sainsburys Local in towns and cities.
    • F8met
    • By F8met 10th Nov 19, 11:59 PM
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    Ok seems this post is already a slagging off of Tesco and all its evils. If you don't shop there and don't agree with them why be so negative and post?


    However, I signed up today as I do 2 shops a month over £40 and have a Tesco mobile account. I believe that the 10% is very misleading. I have not gone through the small print to see where I went wrong but it seems they round down the discount. I can't see what I bought that wouldn't have got me the 10%. My bill came to £58 and change. My discount was only £5.00.


    I did buy an F&F top which was £6 but that would still have got me a 60p saving. If they are rounding down to the nearest £10 then this is false advertising as you are not getting a 10% discount.


    I will look closer to see where that extra 80p went but if this is the case, I may well be cancelling it.
    • Kim kim
    • By Kim kim 11th Nov 19, 2:03 AM
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    I’m not interested as I’ve boycott Tesco’s.

    I got a “Finest” steak pie that was anything but about a month ago.
    It was awful, the pastry like cardboard and the meat wasn’t nice either.
    I direct messaged them, I expected a refund or points to the value - they offered me nothing and thanked me for my feedback.

    They’ve lost me....
    • MeckityMoo1
    • By MeckityMoo1 11th Nov 19, 11:06 AM
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    Doesn't work for me, I do most of my shopping online. I don't think online shopping makes massive profits, though. If I were to subscribe, I would have to switch to instore shopping to make it worth it, and I suspect that Tesco would still make more money from me shopping instore with impulse buys even after 10% off (capped at max £40 discount).

    I'm not sure that it's worth me spending the amount of time it would take to make sure that I got my money back.
    • kremmen
    • By kremmen 12th Nov 19, 8:54 AM
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    I was just about to sign up for this card when I noticed it could only work in store. Such a shame I do the bulk of my purchases online and certainly all my big shops...
    I understand why they would do this from a commercial point of view but it doesn't work for me.

    Shame
    • globetraveller
    • By globetraveller 12th Nov 19, 10:20 PM
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    I already pay £6.99 a month for unlimited deliveries. I don't want to change to shopping instore. I Think this stops me impulse buying. I am happy with the quality of food I get. On the few occasions I have not been happy with something I have been refunded with no quibbles. Also when comparing shop prices, you need to look at the vouchers you get. My tesco shops are a major factor in getting free flights for 2 each year- to Europe or long haul.
    I do think tesco should aim for its older customers who dont have smart phones.
    As its a month by month contract I may pay for months where I have time to shop in store ( and am able to drive)
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