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    • Kim kim
    • By Kim kim 7th Nov 19, 5:51 PM
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    Tummy bugs on holiday UPDATE Shigella post 57
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    • 7th Nov 19, 5:51 PM
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    Tummy bugs on holiday UPDATE Shigella post 57 7th Nov 19 at 5:51 PM
    Just returned from an expensive Carribean holiday.
    It was 13th or 14th out of 145 hotels on trip advisor, I tried to be really careful in my choice.
    We also made good choices on the food there, used freshly cooked to order where possible, avoided rice on buffets, avoided shellfish, the usual.
    Iím almost teetotal & my daughter didnít really drink, 2 young children with us - my grandchildren. We limit sun as we are fair celts.
    But on day 4 she got a right dose of D&V (mostly D). That was it for her, she had a day and a half in bed, made a huge effort to get up for the final day & is still suffering at home.
    Iíve been similar since day 4, but not as bad as her - thankfully.

    A weeks holiday cost 4k, half of it was spoilt, I am really annoyed that we play this roulette with long haul holidays. Iím not seeking compensation, we didnít report anything in resort (we did at check out, the customer survey). This isnít about that,

    I toyed between 3 hotels and Iím so annoyed with myself I didnít book the sensatori which I feel would have been a safer bet.
    Last edited by Kim kim; Yesterday at 8:32 PM.
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    • NoodleDoodleMan
    • By NoodleDoodleMan 9th Nov 19, 9:19 AM
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    Were any other guests ill during your stay ?

    Strange that the two kids appear to have been OK - thankfully.
    • Kim kim
    • By Kim kim 9th Nov 19, 9:25 AM
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    Were any other guests ill during your stay ?

    Strange that the two kids appear to have been OK - thankfully.
    Originally posted by NoodleDoodleMan
    No idea.

    On the afternoon we fell ill we both had the same thing for lunch - from the room service menu - chicken Cesar salad.

    The kids tended to eat slightly different things to us. The kids donít eat much meat for instance.
    • NoodleDoodleMan
    • By NoodleDoodleMan 9th Nov 19, 10:08 AM
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    On the afternoon we fell ill we both had the same thing for lunch - from the room service menu - chicken Cesar salad.

    Water used in preparation is a common suspect where salad has been a possible cause of a tummy problem.
    • Kim kim
    • By Kim kim 9th Nov 19, 10:09 AM
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    Water used in preparation is a common suspect where salad has been a possible cause of a tummy problem.
    Originally posted by NoodleDoodleMan
    Yeah I know.
    They do promise they use purified water for washing salad, fruit and veg, for cooking & for ice.
    • suki1964
    • By suki1964 9th Nov 19, 10:56 AM
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    Am I one of the few who think we use too much hand sanitiser and cleaning products in general.

    I never use hand sanitiser. I do of course wash my hands ( with soap and water as and when)
    Originally posted by photome
    Ive never used hand sanitiser unless in a hospital or when I worked in a kitchen

    Certainly never used it abroad and Ive never got sick

    But there again, I tend not to eat in all inclusive hotels I tend to go out to restaurants , bakeries, food stalls to eat. Even bought cups of slush from street vendors with out a problem

    Im also one of those slobs who doesn't feel the need to disinfect the house or washing

    But Ive only ever had two incidences of food poisoning in my 55 years of living dangerously
    if you lend someone £20 and never see that person again, it was probably worth it
    • cubegame
    • By cubegame 9th Nov 19, 11:31 AM
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    Am I one of the few who think we use too much hand sanitiser and cleaning products in general.

    I never use hand sanitiser. I do of course wash my hands ( with soap and water as and when)
    Originally posted by photome
    Almost certainly.

    A sensible approach makes one's immune system more up the challenge of minor foreign bugs which waylay others.

    It also helps if you own a dog, such is the ability of the dirty, disgusting lovely scamps to vastly increase the bioflora of your house.

    It's probably worth avoiding holiday situations like cruises and all-inclusives where you are almost certainly going to be lumped alongside many a guest with dubious personal standards spreading their faecal matter to the four winds.
    • Kim kim
    • By Kim kim 9th Nov 19, 12:18 PM
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    It's probably worth avoiding holiday situations like cruises and all-inclusives where you are almost certainly going to be lumped alongside many a guest with dubious personal standards spreading their faecal matter to the four winds.
    Originally posted by cubegame

    Problem being if you like the Carribean and beach side 5 star hotels then AI is your only real option.
    • Sea Shell
    • By Sea Shell 9th Nov 19, 1:18 PM
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    At least if you go to Torremolinos, and get sick for 3 days, it hasn't cost you ££££, for the privilege!!!!
    " That pound I saved yesterday, is a pound I don't have to earn tomorrow " JOB DONE!!
    This should now read "It's time to start digging up those Squirrelled Nuts"!!!
    • blues
    • By blues 9th Nov 19, 3:42 PM
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    No idea.

    On the afternoon we fell ill we both had the same thing for lunch - from the room service menu - chicken Cesar salad.

    The kids tended to eat slightly different things to us. The kids donít eat much meat for instance.
    Originally posted by Kim kim
    So other guests not using hand sanitiser wouldnít have been the culprit here?
    • leylandsunaddict
    • By leylandsunaddict 9th Nov 19, 5:27 PM
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    Going as far as the Caribbean and not going outside the hotel doesn't compute with me, but maybe I'm different.

    Anywhere where you've got a hundreds and hundreds of people in the same place eg a hotel is a recipe for getting ill because of how easily stomach bugs are spread.

    More worrying, you say you got it on the Sunday, were there for a week, and that you've still got it which means you flew home while you were at the most infectious stage so could have given it to a lot of other people as well.
    • Kim kim
    • By Kim kim 9th Nov 19, 6:00 PM
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    Going as far as the Caribbean and not going outside the hotel doesn't compute with me, but maybe I'm different.

    Anywhere where you've got a hundreds and hundreds of people in the same place eg a hotel is a recipe for getting ill because of how easily stomach bugs are spread.

    More worrying, you say you got it on the Sunday, were there for a week, and that you've still got it which means you flew home while you were at the most infectious stage so could have given it to a lot of other people as well.
    Originally posted by leylandsunaddict
    We would have gone out - HAD WE FELT BETTER!!!

    How would I have given a tummy bug to others?
    I wasn’t swapping fluids with anyone and I was scrupulous about washing my hands.
    Having the tail end of a tummy bug does not entitle you to stay on your holiday and defer your flight home, it’s not an emergency.
    • Kim kim
    • By Kim kim 9th Nov 19, 6:02 PM
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    So other guests not using hand sanitiser wouldnít have been the culprit here?
    Originally posted by blues
    No, not if it was that.

    But I think itís bad practice on the hotels part not to push the hand hygiene the way the sensatori did.
    • Kim kim
    • By Kim kim 9th Nov 19, 6:03 PM
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    At least if you go to Torremolinos, and get sick for 3 days, it hasn't cost you ££££, for the privilege!!!!
    Originally posted by Sea Shell
    Fair point!!! Never fancied Torremolinos though!
    • Ganga
    • By Ganga 9th Nov 19, 6:51 PM
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    Going as far as the Caribbean and not going outside the hotel doesn't compute with me, but maybe I'm different.

    Anywhere where you've got a hundreds and hundreds of people in the same place eg a hotel is a recipe for getting ill because of how easily stomach bugs are spread.

    More worrying, you say you got it on the Sunday, were there for a week, and that you've still got it which means you flew home while you were at the most infectious stage so could have given it to a lot of other people as well.
    Originally posted by leylandsunaddict
    Very true but it only takes one person to contact food poisoning to spread it to others even if only two or three of you if not carefull.
    ITS NOT EASY TO GET EVERYTHING WRONG ,I HAVE TO WORK HARD TO DO IT!
    • FluffyDog
    • By FluffyDog 18th Nov 19, 3:52 AM
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    We used to vacation a lot in Mexico (it's easy for us Canadians to get there).

    What you are forgetting is tomatoes, fruits, salad items, are all grown locally. No matter how much you wash them, you can't kill the bacteria in them. They are grown locally using local water.

    The DR has a horrible reputation for people getting sick. The hygiene is not great. Doesn't matter if it's 5 or 2*.

    Been to Cancun twice, 5* both times. Both times by day 4 sicker than a dog that basically lasted until the flight home. PV? Three times, sick once.

    Jamaica? Stayed at Sandals. No problems.

    Morocco? Three days and I was done. Hospitalized in Spain with a bacterial infection. IV antibiotics, the whole shebang. Lost 25lbs in less than a weeks.

    Hand sanitizer is horrible. Soap and water is the way to go. I have to use hand sanitizer at work. People don't use it properly. Wiping it around your hands isn't the way to use it. You have to rub it in and massage it into the nailbeds, etc. All it's done is increase the prevalence of superbugs.
    The former wondercollie
    • lovesgshp
    • By lovesgshp 19th Nov 19, 5:00 PM
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    Tummy bugs on holiday are nothing new.
    The first I had was in Tunisia in the early 70's. 2 days out of action!!
    Next in Saudi Arabia where I worked, but a couple of pills from the local chemist soon got rid of that!!
    Worst was on the Comores Islands at the Galwa Beach hotel A1. Electric went off for about 8 hours, but as we were out exploring we did not know. Wife went down first and insisted we had a injection of something I cannot remember the name of, but think it was something like voltan A, which her deceased German husband who was a doctor had recommended when they went to Africa.
    Would always try to avoid AI hotels and eat outside with the locals whenever possible.
    As Manuel says in Fawlty Towers: " I Know Nothing"
    • Kim kim
    • By Kim kim 19th Nov 19, 7:31 PM
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    My daughters results come back - she has Shigella

    Apparently it’s a notifyable bacteria to the department of health for England and she’ll be receiving a copy of the letter the hospital/doctors sends.

    It takes a day or two for symptoms to start, symptoms started on Sunday afternoon so it could have been anything we ate from Friday dinner time really!

    I’ll get in touch with TUI - it’s important they know about this.
    Last edited by Kim kim; Yesterday at 7:43 PM.
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