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Is the Land Registry to be trusted?

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  • eddddy
    eddddy Posts: 16,292
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    kingstreet wrote: »
    The bane of my life.

    People inventing addresses for themselves and then having documents showing three different variations instead of the Royal Mail PAF search output, which can be found here;-

    https://www.royalmail.com/find-a-postcode

    I'm probably one of the culprets that you describe!

    I changed a house name 20+ years ago.
    • Council tax, planning consents etc, in new name
    • LR database shows old name
    • RM PAF has two entries - one for old name and one for new

    (It confuses TV licensing who probably use PAF. They don't believe that 2 PAF entries relate to one house, and keep sending inspectors looking for a non-existent house.)
  • GDB2222
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    CO_NO wrote: »
    I should have added that I did indeed pay to download both the Registry Current Title PLAN and the Register EXTRACT, the latter confirms the registered owner is not myself! TITLE ABSOLUTE is not myself.

    Is there no Government Department that can be trusted?


    If this is the title of the property you actually live in that's in somebody else's name, then you have a really big problem. Somebody else owns the legal title to your house (but hopefully not the beneficial interest)!

    The LR rep will probably tell you how to sort it out. That's if it can be sorted out.

    On the other hand, if there's another property in the neighbourhood with the same or very similar name, that may be confusing for the postman, but there's no real financial issue.
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
  • StumpyPumpy
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    CO_NO wrote: »
    I should have added that I did indeed pay to download both the Registry Current Title PLAN and the Register EXTRACT, the latter confirms the registered owner is not myself! TITLE ABSOLUTE is not myself.

    Is there no Government Department that can be trusted?
    Don't worry, the Government keep making plans to sell it off, though currently they are waiting for a better opportunity to slip it unnoticed into another bill ministers are reviewing responses to the government’s consultation.

    I'm sure once it is forcibly transformed into a service run by a profit making private company able to operate in a free market with little or no oversight, the levels of trust, efficiency and helpfulness will go through the roof.

    SP
    Come on people, it's not difficult: lose means to be unable to find, loose means not being fixed in place. So if you have a hole in your pocket you might lose your loose change.
  • davidmcn
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    OP, are you sure the same title was previously in your name?
  • Land_Registry
    Land_Registry Posts: 5,754
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    edited 16 May 2018 at 4:47AM
    Others have largely covered it and as davidmcn posts house names on plans are invariably added by Ordnance Survey

    We do have some control over that but when a property is registered and the extent mapped we use the OS base map available at that time. If a house name changes or was misspelt we would not generally amend/update the title plan until the registered extent altered for some reason.

    Postal addresses are managed by the local authority for electoral roll purposes. They then notify Royal Mail and most then use their data to track and link data to a specific address.

    I'm sure OS add house names to their plans but not every single one as their purpose is to survey the area/development primarily with regards the physical features in place e.g. buildings and fences.

    In my experience if you are searching a specific address and there are two separate freehold titles and say three different house name spellings then it needs looking at to understand what has happened and why. But more importantly to have it corrected if we can.
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  • CO_NO
    CO_NO Posts: 28 Forumite
    eddddy wrote: »
    I'm probably one of the culprets that you describe!

    I changed a house name 20+ years ago.
    • Council tax, planning consents etc, in new name
    • LR database shows old name
    • RM PAF has two entries - one for old name and one for new

    (It confuses TV licensing who probably use PAF. They don't believe that 2 PAF entries relate to one house, and keep sending inspectors looking for a non-existent house.)

    There you go...Government Department wondering around wasting money because they don't know which way is up! We have Grenfell, Windrush etc.. What is going on?
  • Elinore
    Elinore Posts: 259 Forumite
    edited 14 May 2018 at 6:02PM
    Deleted. Irritated unhelpful response.
  • CO_NO
    CO_NO Posts: 28 Forumite
    Don't worry, the Government keep making plans to sell it off, though currently they are waiting for a better opportunity to slip it unnoticed into another bill ministers are reviewing responses to the government’s consultation.

    I'm sure once it is forcibly transformed into a service run by a profit-making private company able to operate in a free market with little or no oversight, the levels of trust, efficiency and helpfulness will go through the roof.





    SP
    Rock and a harder place...again.

    Always bear in mind to err is human, but if you really want to c**k it up you need a computer!
  • G_M
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    Good grief! Get off your high horse.


    If there's an issue with your own property's register, identify what it is and contact the LR to get it corrected!


    Personally the last thing I want is for my taxes to be spent on the LR checking the names, postal addresses and ordnance survey entries for every single property in the country.


    I'd far rather the money went to the NHS, or filling pot holes, or blowing up ISIS in the middle east (just added to see the reaction!), whilst errors get sorted out when properties change hands or owners bring those errors to the LR's attention.


    Note. If you're worried about your property being sold without you knowing, sign up to the free LR property alert!
  • Thrugelmir
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    CO_NO wrote: »
    Always bear in mind to err is human, but if you really want to c**k it up you need a computer!

    Garbage in garbage out......
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