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    • Jonamora
    • By Jonamora 24th Jan 17, 5:11 PM
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    Electric cars
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    • 24th Jan 17, 5:11 PM
    Electric cars 24th Jan 17 at 5:11 PM
    Just wanted people's opinions on buying an electric car?

    Before long all cars will be electric and therfore is it best to sell petrol car at full value and invest in electric car.

    I don't want to start a new finance deals for 4 years and be complete but then left with and cat nobody wants or has resale value because all are electric.....thoughts

    Jonathan
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    • BeenThroughItAll
    • By BeenThroughItAll 24th Jan 17, 5:13 PM
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    • 24th Jan 17, 5:13 PM
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    • 24th Jan 17, 5:13 PM
    Just wanted people's opinions on buying an electric car?

    Before long all cars will be electric and therfore is it best to sell petrol car at full value and invest in electric car.

    I don't want to start a new finance deals for 4 years and be complete but then left with and cat nobody wants or has resale value because all are electric.....thoughts

    Jonathan
    Originally posted by Jonamora


    It's going to be a hell of a lot longer than 4 years before we're all trundling around in electric cars.


    I won't be buying another for some time after my bloody awful experience owning a Renault Zoe for a year.
    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 24th Jan 17, 5:15 PM
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    • 24th Jan 17, 5:15 PM
    So go for a PCP (with a guaranteed minimum future value) or a lease (where the residual value isn't your problem), then.
    • kmb500
    • By kmb500 24th Jan 17, 5:19 PM
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    • 24th Jan 17, 5:19 PM
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    • 24th Jan 17, 5:19 PM
    electric cars are currently wildly unpopular, and if you buy one now then in 4 years it will be worth next to nothing. I think I read somewhere that Nissan Leafs are the fastest depreciating (new) car in the world


    It will be maybe 20 years before most cars are electric... gonna be some time. You're quite safe now. Plus there are some people who would never want an electric car. Petrol all the way!
    • Johno100
    • By Johno100 24th Jan 17, 5:29 PM
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    • 24th Jan 17, 5:29 PM
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    • 24th Jan 17, 5:29 PM
    Before long all cars will be electric and therfore is it best to sell petrol car at full value and invest in electric car.
    Originally posted by Jonamora
    Not sure where you get that from, currently only about 1% of new cars are plug in electric.

    I predict hybrid vehicles will become the dominant technology for a lengthy period before all electric vehicles take over, and I'm talking in and for decades not years.
    • Keep pedalling
    • By Keep pedalling 24th Jan 17, 5:56 PM
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    • 24th Jan 17, 5:56 PM
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    • 24th Jan 17, 5:56 PM
    I must admit that I am seriously considering one, but will probably do it in stages by starting with a plug in hybrid first.

    I have solar panels, and am retired so can do most charging during the day, rather than an overnight so I can make best use of those panels.

    I plan to get a test drive in an all electric Hyundai Ioniq shortly, which is currently the one all electric car on the market that might tempt me to jump straight to all electric as its (real world) range is big enough to cover every journey I make on one charge with the exception of the odd UK holiday in the west country. It is reasonably priced as well.
    • agrinnall
    • By agrinnall 24th Jan 17, 6:17 PM
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    • 24th Jan 17, 6:17 PM
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    • 24th Jan 17, 6:17 PM
    I can't see the point of hybrid cars at all, and if there's a sudden technology leap in all electric cars anyone owning a hybrid car at the time will be facing a huge loss because why would anybody buy it off you? Personally I'd stick with an efficient petrol car (or possibly diesel if you do very high mileage) until good electric cars like the Tesla Model 3 and associated fast charging infrastructure are widely available.
    • facade
    • By facade 24th Jan 17, 6:25 PM
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    • 24th Jan 17, 6:25 PM
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    • 24th Jan 17, 6:25 PM
    I have solar panels, and am retired so can do most charging during the day, rather than an overnight so I can make best use of those panels.
    Originally posted by Keep pedalling
    Crikey! How big are your solar panels if you can put 24kwh into a car in daylight hours?
    Call it 10 hours, so that is 2.4kW, PVs would need to be around 24m2 and follow the sun.
    I want to go back to The Olden Days, when every single thing that I can think of was better.....

    (except air quality and Medical Science )
    • mr_accountant
    • By mr_accountant 24th Jan 17, 7:05 PM
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    • 24th Jan 17, 7:05 PM
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    • 24th Jan 17, 7:05 PM
    Stick to petrol for the moment, it will be a long long time before we have the need and the technology for electric cars, not to mention the infrastructure required to facilitate them, ie power stations
    • Keep pedalling
    • By Keep pedalling 24th Jan 17, 7:18 PM
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    Crikey! How big are your solar panels if you can put 24kwh into a car in daylight hours?
    Call it 10 hours, so that is 2.4kW, PVs would need to be around 24m2 and follow the sun.
    Originally posted by facade
    I did not say they would provide the entire charge, but they will certainly significantly reduce the charging costs, and in reality I would very rarely have to charge from near empty batteries..
    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 24th Jan 17, 7:31 PM
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    24kwh is not "near empty". Leafs are behind the game with 30kwh batteries - next year's new model will be 60kwh. Tesla are already 100kwh.
    • forgotmyname
    • By forgotmyname 24th Jan 17, 7:36 PM
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    Just wanted people's opinions on buying an electric car?

    Before long all cars will be electric and therfore is it best to sell petrol car at full value and invest in electric car.

    I don't want to start a new finance deals for 4 years and be complete but then left with and cat nobody wants or has resale value because all are electric.....thoughts

    Jonathan
    Originally posted by Jonamora
    You will be long forgotten before electric cars are all you can buy.

    Just checkout the number of electric cars for sale with super low mileages, most likely the buyer found out it was not really suitable for their needs.

    Easy way to lose a lot of money at the moment an electric car.
    Last edited by forgotmyname; 24-01-2017 at 7:42 PM.
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    • neilmcl
    • By neilmcl 24th Jan 17, 7:47 PM
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    Just wanted people's opinions on buying an electric car?

    Before long all cars will be electric and therfore is it best to sell petrol car at full value and invest in electric car.

    I don't want to start a new finance deals for 4 years and be complete but then left with and cat nobody wants or has resale value because all are electric.....thoughts

    Jonathan
    Originally posted by Jonamora
    Really
    • Mobeer
    • By Mobeer 24th Jan 17, 7:48 PM
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    Used electric cars have such terrible residuals I would be tempted, if I had anywhere to charge one. For the same reason I think buying a new one would be a very bad idea.
    • Owain Moneysaver
    • By Owain Moneysaver 24th Jan 17, 7:58 PM
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    Before long all cars will be electric
    Originally posted by Jonamora
    Yeah, right.
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    • dacouch
    • By dacouch 24th Jan 17, 8:06 PM
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    Used electric cars have such terrible residuals I would be tempted, if I had anywhere to charge one. For the same reason I think buying a new one would be a very bad idea.
    Originally posted by Mobeer
    I charge mine at work, no congestion charge and free parking in Westminster (Which I use all of on a daily basis)

    It works out well for me as I literally have no running costs
    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 24th Jan 17, 8:14 PM
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    I charge mine at work, no congestion charge and free parking in Westminster (Which I use all of on a daily basis)

    It works out well for me as I literally have no running costs
    Originally posted by dacouch
    Really?

    No insurance? No servicing? No tyre wear? No other maintenance? No depreciation or finance costs?
    • dacouch
    • By dacouch 24th Jan 17, 8:22 PM
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    Really?

    No insurance? No servicing? No tyre wear? No other maintenance? No depreciation or finance costs?
    Originally posted by AdrianC
    Insurance is low, servicing every three years, no finance costs and obviously I replace tyres.

    Any depriciation is easily outweighed by 55 a week I save on the congestion charge plus the savings I make on not buying fuel.

    Electric vehicles are not for everyone but mine works out well for me
    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 24th Jan 17, 8:23 PM
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    Insurance is low, servicing every three years, no finance costs and obviously I replace tyres.

    Any depriciation is easily outweighed by 55 a week I save on the congestion charge plus the savings I make on not buying fuel.

    Electric vehicles are not for everyone but mine works out well for me
    Originally posted by dacouch
    Lovely, but "literally no running costs" is definitely an alternative truth, isn't it?
    • Richard53
    • By Richard53 24th Jan 17, 8:26 PM
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    I charge mine at work, no congestion charge and free parking in Westminster (Which I use all of on a daily basis)

    It works out well for me as I literally have no running costs
    Originally posted by dacouch
    At the moment a lot of people are saying that they run an electric car and get their 'fuel' for free (employer allows charging, motorway service charging points etc). This is all part of the drive to get people to change, but as soon as a substantial number of cars are electric, this will not be sustainable and every owner will have to pay market rate for their charging. No such thing as a free lunch, in the longer term.
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