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    • Former MSE Samantha
    • By Former MSE Samantha 28th Jan 13, 3:55 PM
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    Former MSE Samantha
    Co-operative Energy reviews: Give your feedback
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    • 28th Jan 13, 3:55 PM
    Co-operative Energy reviews: Give your feedback 28th Jan 13 at 3:55 PM
    This is a feedback thread on energy supplier

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    • Mojisola
    • By Mojisola 6th Aug 15, 5:39 PM
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    Mojisola
    Anyone tried recently to get a refund of a credit balance from Co-op?
    Originally posted by Consumerist
    I've had three emails ignored - does that count?
    • tracy6697
    • By tracy6697 7th Aug 15, 12:05 AM
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    tracy6697
    Applied to switch away from Co-op on Sat 1st and got a letter trying to stop me on Thurs 6th. It's amazing how quickly this has happened when everything else from them is done slowly, if at all.

    The letter also mentioned that there would be an exit penalty as I am moving early. I find this disgusting when they haven't provided the service I was promised such as quarterly billing as I haven't been billed at all. Has anyone managed to successfully get the fee waived?
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  • CooperativeEnergy
    I sold my house in May and on providing final meter readings to Co-op was told a final bill would be sent shortly. It wasn't and when I logged into the (stupid, slow, poorly thought out) online system I was in credit by a few hundred pounds. Havn't heard anything from Co-op for ages so logged in again recently to find I'm apparently owe them several hundred pounds (with no way of checking current or previous bills) and they still havn't been in touch. My emails to them have gone un-answered. Total shambles.
    Originally posted by Catriona_P

    Good afternoon,

    We are sorry to read about you recent problems with your energy account. We sincerely apologise for the service you have received.

    Please forward the details of your complaint to onlineenquiries@cooperativeenergy.coop, along with your account number and your phone number or email address, and I will escalate this upon receipt.

    Many thanks, I look forward to hearing from you and helping to resolve your issue.

    Co-operative Energy
    Official Company Representative
    I am the official company representative of Cooperative Energy. MSE has given permission for me to post in response to queries about the company, so that I can help solve issues. You can see my name on the companies with permission to post list. I am not allowed to tout for business at all. If you believe I am please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com This does NOT imply any form of approval of my company or its products by MSE"
  • CooperativeEnergy
    Applied to switch away from Co-op on Sat 1st and got a letter trying to stop me on Thurs 6th. It's amazing how quickly this has happened when everything else from them is done slowly, if at all.

    The letter also mentioned that there would be an exit penalty as I am moving early. I find this disgusting when they haven't provided the service I was promised such as quarterly billing as I haven't been billed at all. Has anyone managed to successfully get the fee waived?
    Originally posted by tracy6697



    Hi Tracy,

    We are sorry to read about you recent problems with your energy account. We sincerely apologise for the service you have received.

    Please forward the details of your complaint to onlineenquiries@cooperativeenergy.coop, along with your account number and your phone number or email address, and I will escalate this upon receipt.

    Many thanks, I look forward to hearing from you and helping to resolve your issue.

    Co-operative Energy


    Official Company Representative
    I am the official company representative of Cooperative Energy. MSE has given permission for me to post in response to queries about the company, so that I can help solve issues. You can see my name on the companies with permission to post list. I am not allowed to tout for business at all. If you believe I am please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com This does NOT imply any form of approval of my company or its products by MSE"
    • Darkgreenie
    • By Darkgreenie 7th Aug 15, 6:43 PM
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    Darkgreenie
    I've had three emails ignored - does that count?
    Originally posted by Mojisola
    I've had a refund today. I found that the best way to communicate with them is via their Twitter account.
    • Joanthebone
    • By Joanthebone 7th Aug 15, 7:05 PM
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    Joanthebone
    I completed on my property on 26th September, but did not move in until about the 3rd week of October. When I bought the property it was supplied with gas and electric by Co-op... I switched to First Utility on 12th November and paid what I owed the Co-op then (66.15) I have heard nothing more from them until today. I send First Utility my meter readings and have been paying them.


    Today, I got a bill from the Co-op for 463.79, they have estimated my usage from 26th September 2014 until 3rd August 2015. I am absolutely hopping mad... I phoned them, and after waiting 12 minutes to speak to someone he told me that he would have to look into it and I would have to hold on. I told him I had a train to catch and they could call me back on my mobile.. needless to say I have not heard back from them. I really begrudge spending my phone bill and time over this, and their website is useless, there is no way to email them with this sort of problem. I have not been able to look at all the posts, as I am away on holiday now, but wonder if anyone else has had this problem and how they sorted it out?
    Last edited by Joanthebone; 10-08-2015 at 8:16 AM.
    • cadguy
    • By cadguy 7th Aug 15, 8:35 PM
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    cadguy
    just had an horrendous interaction with cooperative.

    cuting the story as short as i can....i received a letter two weeks ago saying i owed 259. After weeks trying to view my bill on the new online system and numerous phone calls I've ended up with a bill for 1200. They had not taken any payments since i moved to them last year in Sept 2014 despite me setting up a direct debit!

    Should it take 11 months for them to tell me there was a problem?
    Even the two reps on phone calls couldn't understand my billing history and had to keep putting me on hold to work out what had happen! (still dont understand adjustment figure on the account and why it shows 4 of my payments but the rep said none had gone through). if the reps dont understand the bills how is a customer meant to?

    by far the worst experience i've had with an energy supplier.
    • Mojisola
    • By Mojisola 7th Aug 15, 9:17 PM
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    Mojisola
    I've had a refund today. I found that the best way to communicate with them is via their Twitter account.
    Originally posted by Darkgreenie
    Finally got a bill for May from them today. Loads in credit so will try again to get a reduction in DD and some money back.
    • simont
    • By simont 8th Aug 15, 6:55 PM
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    simont
    Terrible, fundamental IT problems AVOID
    So I switched to CoOp energy a few months ago and have had numerous issues with them, predominantly related to their IT systems.

    First of all, and most seriously, they will email your password to you in plain text. I understand that not everyone works in software development like I do, so I'll explain why this is bad. Firstly, email is not a secure transmission method. Anyone can intercept your email, read your password and log in to your account. From here they can get all your information, change your details, disconnect your service...

    Secondly, passwords for systems such as this should be hashed and salted (and optionally encrypted, which I would recommend for an application like this). This means that the system you use never actually stores your password but rather the result of running your password through an algorithm (when you try and log in it runs the password you entered through the same algorithm to see if the result is the same. Crucially it's one way, so it's trivial to get the hash from the password but near impossible to get the password from the hash). This way, if they get hacked the attackers don't simply see your password. By sending the password in plain text through email I can guarantee that they are storing their passwords in plain text in their system. This is, literally, the first thing you learn about system security. It's school level (not even college or university). I know some of you may brush this off, but I cannot overemphasise how terrible this practice is and how it points to the overall level of care put in to their systems development, or lack thereof. (or have a look at this http://i.imgur.com/1JnwySW.png for further indication of how little care they put in)

    To make matters worse, I used the forgot password link. A few days(!) later I was sent a new password. Again, in plain text. This email had been forwarded by a customer services agent to me, which meant that they had access to the password, in plain text (i.e. they could read it). Again, this is so far removed from best practice it's not even funny.

    I also had a billing issue. I went away for three weeks in July and returned to a letter threatening disconnection because I was 11 in debt to them. I pay by direct debit, and monthly payments had been coming out as normal. I'd not received an email informing me of this, and the letter had been sitting on my doormat for over two weeks by the time I returned, meaning I'd gone past the "Pay by this date or else" date. Trying to actually pay this was nearly impossible and involved a phone number that didn't work (the number the letter advised me to call had been disconnected), a website that wouldn't let me log on (take a look at the log-on page https://www.cooperativeenergy.coop/your-new-online-account/ and see if you can figure it out) and an age on hold. I've never missed a payment on anything in my life, so found this incredibly worrisome.

    And all this is ignoring the terrible website UI once you finally log on. If you enjoy a quiet life, avoid like the plague. It's only a matter of time before you'll see them on the news for a systems and data breach based on what I've seen so far. Suffice to say, I'm leaving.
    • bellandbottle
    • By bellandbottle 9th Aug 15, 1:56 PM
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    bellandbottle
    .

    First of all, and most seriously, they will email your password to you in plain text.
    Originally posted by simont
    Simon, I also had my password sent to me in plain text, but have now changed it. I am in IT and could not quite believe it.

    I am waiting for everything to stabilise, and then I too will be off.
    • boobbby
    • By boobbby 10th Aug 15, 12:42 AM
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    boobbby
    Simon, I also had my password sent to me in plain text, but have now changed it. I am in IT and could not quite believe it.

    I am waiting for everything to stabilise, and then I too will be off.
    Originally posted by bellandbottle
    I don't think you will be the only one !
    • Consumerist
    • By Consumerist 10th Aug 15, 12:07 PM
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    Consumerist
    It is disappointing, and also very telling, that the Co-op rep, or reps, on MSE will not take ownership of any problems - no names given - but merely seeks to plough us into the demonstrably broken customer service system that is the Co-op.

    As fixed-term contracts come to an end, the Co-op should find life much easier as they progressively lose their customers.

    Then no-one will care whether their service is good or bad.
    Warning: In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.
    • fat-pudding
    • By fat-pudding 10th Aug 15, 6:15 PM
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    fat-pudding
    Today I have finally escalated the complaint to the ombudsman as co-op are no longer replying to my emails.

    The status for me is that they were supposed to take over both gas and electric when I switched in January, then April, then agreed to not process the switch and then initiated one in June. The details will all be in this thread somewhere.

    Co-op promised that they would return the supplies as an "erroneous transfer" before the end of July but the gas is still lost somewhere in the system and has not been returned.

    I have asked the ombudsman to make them expedite the return of the supply and to make them adequately compensate me for the losses I incurred (paying more for energy for 5 months with the old supplier) and to cover the amount of time I've wasted with them.

    Quite honestly this has been one of the worst experiences I have had with any company ever.
  • CooperativeEnergy
    I completed on my property on 26th September, but did not move in until about the 3rd week of October. When I bought the property it was supplied with gas and electric by Co-op... I switched to First Utility on 12th November and paid what I owed the Co-op then (66.15) I have heard nothing more from them until today. I send First Utility my meter readings and have been paying them.


    Today, I got a bill from the Co-op for 463.79, they have estimated my usage from 26th September 2014 until 3rd August 2015. I am absolutely hopping mad... I phoned them, and after waiting 12 minutes to speak to someone he told me that he would have to look into it and I would have to hold on. I told him I had a train to catch and they could call me back on my mobile.. needless to say I have not heard back from them. I really begrudge spending my phone bill and time over this, and their website is useless, there is no way to email them with this sort of problem. I have not been able to look at all the posts, as I am away on holiday now, but wonder if anyone else has had this problem and how they sorted it out?
    Originally posted by Joanthebone

    Good afternoon,


    I am sorry to read about you recent problems with your energy account. We sincerely apologise for the service you have received.

    Please forward the details of your complaint to onlineenquiries@cooperativeenergy.coop, along with your account number and your phone number or email address, and I will escalate this upon receipt.

    Many thanks, I look forward to hearing from you and helping to resolve your issue.

    Co-operative Energy
    Official Company Representative
    I am the official company representative of Cooperative Energy. MSE has given permission for me to post in response to queries about the company, so that I can help solve issues. You can see my name on the companies with permission to post list. I am not allowed to tout for business at all. If you believe I am please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com This does NOT imply any form of approval of my company or its products by MSE"
  • CooperativeEnergy
    just had an horrendous interaction with cooperative.

    cuting the story as short as i can....i received a letter two weeks ago saying i owed 259. After weeks trying to view my bill on the new online system and numerous phone calls I've ended up with a bill for 1200. They had not taken any payments since i moved to them last year in Sept 2014 despite me setting up a direct debit!

    Should it take 11 months for them to tell me there was a problem?
    Even the two reps on phone calls couldn't understand my billing history and had to keep putting me on hold to work out what had happen! (still dont understand adjustment figure on the account and why it shows 4 of my payments but the rep said none had gone through). if the reps dont understand the bills how is a customer meant to?

    by far the worst experience i've had with an energy supplier.
    Originally posted by cadguy

    Good afternoon,

    I am sorry to read about these recent problems. I would like to extend my sincere apologies for the experience you have had with us.

    Please forward the details of your complaint to onlineenquiries@cooperativeenergy.coop, along with your account number and your phone number or email address, and I will escalate this upon receipt.

    I look forward to hearing from you and helping to resolve your issue.

    Co-operative Energy
    Official Company Representative
    I am the official company representative of Cooperative Energy. MSE has given permission for me to post in response to queries about the company, so that I can help solve issues. You can see my name on the companies with permission to post list. I am not allowed to tout for business at all. If you believe I am please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com This does NOT imply any form of approval of my company or its products by MSE"
  • CooperativeEnergy
    So I switched to CoOp energy a few months ago and have had numerous issues with them, predominantly related to their IT systems.

    First of all, and most seriously, they will email your password to you in plain text. I understand that not everyone works in software development like I do, so I'll explain why this is bad. Firstly, email is not a secure transmission method. Anyone can intercept your email, read your password and log in to your account. From here they can get all your information, change your details, disconnect your service...

    Secondly, passwords for systems such as this should be hashed and salted (and optionally encrypted, which I would recommend for an application like this). This means that the system you use never actually stores your password but rather the result of running your password through an algorithm (when you try and log in it runs the password you entered through the same algorithm to see if the result is the same. Crucially it's one way, so it's trivial to get the hash from the password but near impossible to get the password from the hash). This way, if they get hacked the attackers don't simply see your password. By sending the password in plain text through email I can guarantee that they are storing their passwords in plain text in their system. This is, literally, the first thing you learn about system security. It's school level (not even college or university). I know some of you may brush this off, but I cannot overemphasise how terrible this practice is and how it points to the overall level of care put in to their systems development, or lack thereof. (or have a look at this http://i.imgur.com/1JnwySW.png for further indication of how little care they put in)

    To make matters worse, I used the forgot password link. A few days(!) later I was sent a new password. Again, in plain text. This email had been forwarded by a customer services agent to me, which meant that they had access to the password, in plain text (i.e. they could read it). Again, this is so far removed from best practice it's not even funny.

    I also had a billing issue. I went away for three weeks in July and returned to a letter threatening disconnection because I was 11 in debt to them. I pay by direct debit, and monthly payments had been coming out as normal. I'd not received an email informing me of this, and the letter had been sitting on my doormat for over two weeks by the time I returned, meaning I'd gone past the "Pay by this date or else" date. Trying to actually pay this was nearly impossible and involved a phone number that didn't work (the number the letter advised me to call had been disconnected), a website that wouldn't let me log on (take a look at the log-on page https://www.cooperativeenergy.coop/your-new-online-account/ and see if you can figure it out) and an age on hold. I've never missed a payment on anything in my life, so found this incredibly worrisome.

    And all this is ignoring the terrible website UI once you finally log on. If you enjoy a quiet life, avoid like the plague. It's only a matter of time before you'll see them on the news for a systems and data breach based on what I've seen so far. Suffice to say, I'm leaving.
    Originally posted by simont

    Good afternoon,


    I am very sorry to hear you have had this experience with us. If you require further assistance please email onlineenquiries@cooperativeenergy.coop, along with your account number and your phone number or email address, and I will escalate this upon receipt.


    Many thanks, I look forward to hearing from you and helping to resolve your issue.
    Co-operative Energy
    Official Company Representative
    I am the official company representative of Cooperative Energy. MSE has given permission for me to post in response to queries about the company, so that I can help solve issues. You can see my name on the companies with permission to post list. I am not allowed to tout for business at all. If you believe I am please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com This does NOT imply any form of approval of my company or its products by MSE"
  • pepelemoko
    Don't switch to coop energy. I decided to change in February and still haven't paid my first bill despite many phonecalls and emails. I have discovered that something worse rhan bad service is being completely ignored. As i said, i switched in February. I received a wepcome to Coop email pretty soon after. So far so good. Nothing really happened after that until June when i was asked for meter reads. I supplied the reads three times and you would have thought they had never encountered a meter before. When supplying them the third time i mentioned how drawn out and frustrating this whole process was becoming. I was assured everything would be done quickly once i supplied reads. I heard absolutely nothing for over a month so phoned them. The advisor told me he was having problems setting up my payments and would have to take it up with the payments team. Two weeks on and, yet again, i have heard nothing. I called a couple of days ago and the switching team told me they couldn't help me and they would transfer me to someone who could. After some time on hold an advisor picked up. I asked if i could give her my account number. She said that she didn't have access to my account so there would be no point. She had only picked up as i had been on hold so long. I went through my many issues with them and was then asked if i would like to register a complaint. I told them that all i wanted was to know how much i was going to pay them, know the payment date and to actually give them money! I settled for a complaint. As i hae not an ounce of confidence in their staff by now i also emailed a complaint through their website. Waiting to get an answer droning on about their new operating system and how they are normally amazing. Wish i'd never bothered switching. Scottish Power don't seem so bad after all.
    • boobbby
    • By boobbby 12th Aug 15, 10:22 AM
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    boobbby
    The above is a pretty standard message these days about co op energy and reflects most people's opinion about the customer services on this and many other sites. By the way has anybody had any success with replying to the co op energy messages using the online enquires address or is it another red herring
    • Consumerist
    • By Consumerist 12th Aug 15, 10:46 AM
    • 5,279 Posts
    • 2,639 Thanks
    Consumerist
    The above is a pretty standard message these days about co op energy and reflects most people's opinion about the customer services on this and many other sites. By the way has anybody had any success with replying to the co op energy messages using the online enquires address or is it another red herring
    Originally posted by boobbby
    I think these boiler-plate messages from anonymous Co-op reps are just another route into their chaos.
    Warning: In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.
    • PurplePow
    • By PurplePow 12th Aug 15, 4:09 PM
    • 1,085 Posts
    • 2,015 Thanks
    PurplePow
    Anyone tried recently to get a refund of a credit balance from Co-op?
    Originally posted by Consumerist
    Yes. Our monthly payments are too high so we built up around 200. We had to ring to request it and we were told to submit new readings before they could do this. After submitting readings we received a new bill via email and the money went into our account a couple of weeks later.
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