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    • torbrex
    • By torbrex 6th Aug 12, 3:08 PM
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    My opinion has not changed, I am still for cancelling the event.
    • mattytun
    • By mattytun 6th Aug 12, 5:06 PM
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    • 6th Aug 12, 5:06 PM
    My opinion has changed i love it nowwwwwwwwwwwwwww
    Can't sleep, quit counting sheep and talk directly to the shepherd
    • the-mango
    • By the-mango 6th Aug 12, 5:40 PM
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    My opinion has changed i love it nowwwwwwwwwwwwwww
    Originally posted by mattytun
    Agree! I was so bleh and moany about it but now I've been to an event and watched some I love it!! ( I'm a Londoner)
  • lilgreenmomo
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    • 6th Aug 12, 6:09 PM
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    • 6th Aug 12, 6:09 PM
    I was happy it was here but wasn't sure I'd actually watch all that much of it, well you know what, I don't think the telly's been tuned to anything but Olympics coverage since the opening ceremony. The cyclists especially have been hugely exciting & impressive and I don't think anyone can argue that their continued success perfectly illustrates the positive legacy of holding events such as the Olympics. 10 years ago British Cycling was nowhere, 10 years ago the National Cycling centre in Manchester opened as part of the Commonwealth games park, 10 years on they are absolutely reaping the rewards.
    • luxor4t
    • By luxor4t 6th Aug 12, 8:26 PM
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    • 6th Aug 12, 8:26 PM
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    • 6th Aug 12, 8:26 PM
    My opinion has not changed, I am still for cancelling the event.
    Originally posted by torbrex
    Same here. I thought carefully before voting the first time and nothing has happened to change my opinion - media hype and selective coverage eg minimal sailing, Greco-Roman wrestling but wall-to-wall Dai Green.
    Meanwhile, in the shadows the Tories dump on the Lib-Dem plans for the House of Lords and plot goodness knows what else.
    I can cook and sew, make flowers grow.
    • Rotor
    • By Rotor 7th Aug 12, 7:52 AM
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    • 7th Aug 12, 7:52 AM
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    • 7th Aug 12, 7:52 AM
    It's a bit of a leading question I think.
    I voted 'cancel' last time and did again this time ; that doesn't mean i'm not "loving" the games.
    By using the phrase "No- I'm loving it" implies that to vote cancel is to say "yes - I hate it" and , for many people that is not the case. It is the huge cost that makes people balk not dislike of the games.
    I'm very proud of Britians olympians.




    P.S : Debs - can you stop teddyco posting please . He is spamming his 'rabbi' stuff all over the forum
    • stevemcol
    • By stevemcol 7th Aug 12, 8:49 AM
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    I never understood the term 'swing voters' at general election time. Surely, I thought, people just have an opinion and stick to it. These polls have demonstrated exactly the oppposite.
    Anyway, it's nice to see some positivity at last.
    Apparently I'm 10 years old on MSE. Happy birthday to me...etc
  • GotNoŁ
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    • 7th Aug 12, 12:26 PM
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    • 7th Aug 12, 12:26 PM
    I'm loving it!!!! (even though that's terrible grammar).

    Go! Go team GB!
    Yep! Still Got No Ł
  • Edwardia
    [text responding to deleted post removed by MSE Team to keep thread on topic]

    I wouldn't cancel the Olympics, I think the opening ceremony was awesome and despite all the pre-games pessimism (much fuelled by the media) there's a real buzz about. It's certainly upped tourism in my part of the country too, with lots of French, Dutch and German visitors.
    Last edited by Former MSE Andrea; 08-08-2012 at 9:48 AM.
    • GeorgeHerts
    • By GeorgeHerts 8th Aug 12, 11:49 AM
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    The taxpayer should not pay for it!
    I don't object to major sports events. As long as they pay their way, that is. So:

    - The taxpayer should not be involved in funding them at all

    - *All* costs (e.g. buildings, security) should be paid for by the promoter only. The promoter should also pay, by the hour, for every km of road lane closed or reserved for the event, and for all other required services.

    A lot of people are making a lot of money out of the Olympics. So, if it is such a good deal, they should be putting up the funding as an investment. The IOC should organise this.

    The Economist magazine published an article last week showing that every Olympics has resulted in a net loss for the host country, even including all the so-called benefits (most of which don't really exist). The public purse should never be opened to pay for such events.

    And anyway, if I said to you "Here's Ł9 billion to spend on the best thing you can think of for the good of the country", would you really put it into two weeks of running and jumping? Especially when the national (and continental) economy is in such terrible shape?

    Geo.

    PS The same applies to World Cup, Commonwealth Games, etc.
    • GlasWolf
    • By GlasWolf 8th Aug 12, 1:01 PM
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    Amen, GeorgeHerts! I also hate the implication that those voting against are being "negative", or "whinging", or not "supporting our athletes" - just a complete straw man of an argument.

    Put simply, hosting a brief sporting event should not cost every British taxpayer Ł400.
  • Treehugged
    I was against it right up until a few weeks ago when the whingeing got a bit stale and I started to think we're moaning too much. 2008 I vowed not to be in the country come 2012-I hoped to travel for the duration but I couldn't afford to so there was nowhere to run.

    I'm glad I couldn't because I am loving it. From the opening ceremony I was both proud and hooked in to the Olympics.
    • stevemcol
    • By stevemcol 9th Aug 12, 9:07 AM
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    And anyway, if I said to you "Here's Ł9 billion to spend on the best thing you can think of for the good of the country", would you really put it into two weeks of running and jumping? Especially when the national (and continental) economy is in such terrible shape?

    Geo.

    PS The same applies to World Cup, Commonwealth Games, etc.
    Originally posted by GeorgeHerts
    You could put Ł9bn into quantitive easing and it might disapear as though it never existed. At least the 'feel good' factor from the olympics seems to be generating a sense of optimism. Recessions are created and broken almost entirely by human behaviour so if the Olympics gives us even a nudge in the right direction I'm all for it, even with some taxpayer funding.

    I see your point about private funding but you just wouldn't ever achieve it. If you did, as soon as government relinquich all control, it would turn into your worst case commercialised nightmare.
    Apparently I'm 10 years old on MSE. Happy birthday to me...etc
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