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    • Former MSE Helen
    • By Former MSE Helen 17th May 12, 4:34 PM
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    MSE News: The rogue companies that ignore 'no cold callers' signs
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    • 17th May 12, 4:34 PM
    MSE News: The rogue companies that ignore 'no cold callers' signs 17th May 12 at 4:34 PM
    This is the discussion thread for the following MSE News Story:

    "Charities and political parties are the worst offenders at ignoring 'no cold callers' signs, according to a new poll ..."

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    • JuicyJesus
    • By JuicyJesus 17th May 12, 5:50 PM
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    How are "charities and political parties" the worst offenders when charities come 1st and political parties come 4th?
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    • datostar
    • By datostar 17th May 12, 5:59 PM
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    • 17th May 12, 5:59 PM
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    • 17th May 12, 5:59 PM
    I find that itinerant persons offering to repair my roof / prune or remove my trees / re-lay my paths / waterproof my walls / rip me off alarmingly and be untraceable afterwards are by far the worst offenders. The recent better weather has brought them out in droves as they obviously have a bit of catching up to do. Signs are of no use as formal education is not normally one of their strong points.
    • edgex
    • By edgex 17th May 12, 6:14 PM
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    • 17th May 12, 6:14 PM
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    • 17th May 12, 6:14 PM
    why is this posted in the 'gas & electricity' section of the forum?


    The survey, which saw more than 1,600 users vote, names charities as the worst culprits, receiving 14.5% of votes from those who have a sign.

    They were closely followed by religious organisations, with 13.2%, homeware company Betterware with 8.7%, then political parties at 7.6%.
    Energy firms featured a lot, with 3.8% of sign owners saying Npower ignored them. A further 3.5% named British Gas as a culprit.
    • bondy01
    • By bondy01 17th May 12, 6:40 PM
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    • 17th May 12, 6:40 PM
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    • 17th May 12, 6:40 PM
    Surely trick or treaters are no. 1 ? I live in a no cold calling zone and don't get many others. 30 secs after arriving home from a week in hospital 18 months ago had an energy salesman and very recently had a Labour activist for the council elections but apart from that can't think of other door knockers.
    • Better Days
    • By Better Days 17th May 12, 7:11 PM
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    • 17th May 12, 7:11 PM
    I am so sick of this. We are seriously considering getting an intercom as I am fed up getting out of bed, often with difficulty (I have a chronic illness) to answer the door to some idiot trying to sell me double glazing (which we already have) and the like.

    The worst repeat offenders around here are the Jehovah's Witnesses. Visits appear to in clusters with a few occurring in a short time, then they move on. But they always come back. Last time instead of politely telling them to go away, which I usually do, I got cross (was particularly unwell that day) and they apologised and I haven't seen them since. I hope that will be that, but I doubt it.
    • mo786uk
    • By mo786uk 17th May 12, 7:58 PM
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    • 17th May 12, 7:58 PM
    I think your article needs clarifying - for any offence to be commited there would need to be repeat cold calling against the wishes of the householder.

    Your article implies that an offence could be commited by a single knock ignorning the sticker - which is not close to accurate.
  • autumntrance
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    • 17th May 12, 8:05 PM
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    • 17th May 12, 8:05 PM
    I had a cold caller from Labour, I politely said I had a sign for no cold calling and that I was busy. I was told that this was regarding the countrys future and way above cold calling!

    I replied I did not invite you or know that you were coming therefore it is cold calling, she was walking away at this point, I said nice to see Labour listens when they aren't hearing what they want to!!
  • hermante
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    • 17th May 12, 8:18 PM
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    • 17th May 12, 8:18 PM
    I am so sick of this. We are seriously considering getting an intercom as I am fed up getting out of bed, often with difficulty (I have a chronic illness) to answer the door to some idiot trying to sell me double glazing (which we already have) and the like.
    Originally posted by Better Days
    Just don't answer the door unless you're expecting someone... get people to call you on your mobile before you get out of bed to open the door
    • Pincher
    • By Pincher 17th May 12, 11:36 PM
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    We should measure the effectiveness of various signs.


    Month One: No signs

    Month Two: "Beware of the dog"

    Month Three: "Quarantine Zone"

    Month Four: "Cannibal Club. Volunteers always welcome."

    etc.
    • Pincher
    • By Pincher 17th May 12, 11:41 PM
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    Sign idea: "Cold Callers please call aaa bbbb cccc to make an appointment"

    Where aaa bbbb cccc is the local police station's TEL.
    • theoldcynic
    • By theoldcynic 17th May 12, 11:44 PM
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    The link doesn't appear to be working for me, says whoops the page doesn't exist??
    • brewerdave
    • By brewerdave 18th May 12, 6:08 AM
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    link doesn't work for me either!!!
    • Butterfly Brain
    • By Butterfly Brain 18th May 12, 11:59 AM
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    Just had safe style knock on my door and wouldn't take no for an answer and when I told him it was a no calling zone he just said "but I'm not selling anything" Grrrr, it takes me ages to get to the front door because of my knees.
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  • Middy
    It took door to door sellers about 18 months to realise that my front door is tucked around the back of the block of flats I live in. There are 7 front doors to the 10 flats - 4 have a front door directly to their flat and the other 6 share the front door with their neighbour. I frequently get jehovah witnesses wanting me to get their Watchtower magazine.

    I say I am a blood donor (I'm not) and they quickly leave!
    • skattebasse
    • By skattebasse 18th May 12, 9:10 PM
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    I looked into who is supposed to be included/excluded by the ''No Cold Calling '' signs and the info on the Trading Standards website say that (Quote )
    Will they stop all callers?

    No - those on legitimate business, such as regular callers, utilities, charity collectors, religious canvassers, political canvassers etc, should not be deterred. The Zones are also not designed to prevent leaflet or catalogue distributions



    So unless the no cold calling sign specifically mentions any of the above we'll be called on.
    • Pincher
    • By Pincher 19th May 12, 4:10 AM
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    The thing that really concerns me is the empty house syndrome.

    They make a list of no answer addresses, come back at night,
    and clean you out while you are on holiday.
    • djh1697
    • By djh1697 19th May 12, 6:43 AM
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    Jehovahs Witnesses can be overcome by telling them that your partner used to be a JW but was kicked out for apostasy.

    When I was involved in politics we were told to ignore such signs as it was our "democratic right" to get our message heard
    Last edited by djh1697; 19-05-2012 at 6:44 AM. Reason: spelling error
  • RicoS
    Can Rogue's read?
    I had a no hackers/callers sticker in my front door window which had been supplied by my local neighboorhood watch. When it fell off I did not bother replacing it with another one as it had had no discernable impact whatsoever on callers, charitable or otherwise.
  • meercatsunited
    I tried ignoring the person knocking on my door but she came to the back door collecting for christian aid and was surprised when I said not interested go away and asked me more than once if I was sure!
    Wisdom doesn't necessarily come with age.
    Sometimes age just shows up all by itself

    In the end, it's not the years in your life
    that count....it's the life in your years
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