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    • zippychick
    • By zippychick 4th Jun 11, 11:19 AM
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    • 4th Jun 11, 11:19 AM
    4th Jun 11 at 11:19 AM
    Hi everyone,

    Welcome to the fifth Grocery Challenge of 2012

    If your new month starts early feel free to join this thread, or if you're still working on your March budget, then keep on posting in the:
    April 2012 Grocery Challenge

    As always this challenge is to reduce your own grocery budget to levels that you will be pleased with, not forgetting that we always recommend that you stay inside your own comfort levels and take things gently one step at a time. Remember that this is not a competition....it's designed to take you and your grocery spending to a level you are happy with.

    If you are new to the challenge I have quoted the advice from Galtizz below which will help you get started.

    Please post into this thread for help and advice and support at any time. Good luck to everyone taking part!

    I have said this before, but for all the newbies to the challenge;

    For the first month I took a guess at the budget but I really had no idea how much I was spending.

    I found the best thing is to have a guess the first month but SAVE ALL OF YOUR RECEIPTS (and yes, that does include the ones from the local shop when you run out of milk ), then at the end of the month add them all up and have a look if you were on budget, if not, it doesn't matter because your budget was a guess. For the next month you can use the total of your receipts and take a bit off to get a realistic budget, just shave off as much as you think you can, it could be 1 a week or 20 a week.

    If you are currently spending 200 a month don't suddenly drop it to 100 - you'll never do it but if you cut 20 a month off for a few months you'll get there eventually without feeling you're missing out on anything.

    You might think you've done everything you can in the first month but someone always comes up with a new idea and, if you try it you often find you save a bit more (unless you are SarahSaver who is an expert at this and could only save more if she turned her back garden into a paddy field and lived on rice ) In the first month I thought, I'm planning meals, I couldn't possibly save any more, but then I started double cooking and freezing, and making soup instead of buying it in tins.

    I've been doing this since Feb but only saved ALL of my receipts last month, it has given me a much better idea of where it is all going. Budget for next month is 80 for 2 of us, I'll start on 30/4. I could probably save more, by eating different foods but I can afford to live on 80, I have saved a lot of money since Feb. and I don't waste food or money any more. So I'm happy with my budget.
    By request, here is Spiggles wonderful helpful post

    We all have different budgets that suit our households. The most important thing to remember is that you set yours according to your needs and finances. It can take time to get to where you want to be too so don't knock yourself out if you go over in the first few months. We are here to support each other and it is not a competition.

    I thought it might help to outline where we've come from and the top tips I've learned.

    When we started in March 2010 we had spent in excess of 600 in the previous month. This had to stop, (there's only me and him and our two beautiful black cats) something which thankfully my OH completely agreed with so I have been lucky that he has been on board from the start. He gave me his debit card voluntarily and I still keep hold of it until he needs to get something for the home. At the same time we set up a system of pocket money (pm) at 15 each per week which doesn't count towards the GC and which we can each spend as we wish with no comebacks or complaints. OH predominantly uses his pm on his beer and I ferret mine away mostly.

    The next step was to set up my own spreadsheet which is absolutely simple onto which I put all spends so that I have a continuous running total for the month and for the year. We initially set our budget at 280 per month and brought it down to 240 where it resides for most of the year it is occasionally increased to allow for extras e.g. Christmas to 260.

    The important 'tools' we found greatly helped and continue to do so now are:

    Stocktake cupboards, fridge, freezer - make lists and ensure that the older products get used up first. You'll be amazed at what you find squirrelled away and it will help with your shopping list as you'll realise that you don't actually need so much.

    Before you go shopping check staples - running out of milk, bread, butter, etc often leads to going into a shop for one thing and coming out 20 lighter. Always check these and if they'll run out tomorrow buy them the same time as getting other things.

    Always make a shopping list and stick to it - the supermarkets (sm) try every which way to get us to spend so having a list and strong resolve is the only way to beat them.

    Keep every receipt - and then note it down on your spreadsheet/spend diary so that you always know where you are.

    When tempted, ask yourself do you NEED it or just WANT it - now this advice goes with two things. Firstly, the things you see in store when shopping that APPEAR to be bargains - if you hadn't planned spending the money then its not a bargain. Secondly, the sm send us loads of vouchers for X off a spend of XX - if you had no NEED to spend XX then have you SAVED anything???

    Use my supermarket to compare prices (limited to four of the biggies) - The site may be used to actually do an online shop at whichever of the big four offers the best value or, if you have the time and sm availability, to make up lists for visiting each of the stores so that you can purchase all you need at different stores thus getting the best possible value. (I'd add, do a 'shop' virtually on this site and take the list you create on it with you, whichever one you shop at, it will help keep target prices in your head and allow you to spot bargains. MrM is not included but you can do a virtual list on their website so you know what you're going to be spending.)

    Always have a list - this is just as important when shopping online as shopping on foot.

    Use Approved Foods online (with a list!) - if you don't mind out of date things (ood) or you can search for only in date items. The only drawback is storing the goods as far as I can tell. Oh, and watch the delivery as it's done on a scaled charge for weight so keep an eye on it. You can of course do an AF order with friends, family, colleagues or like minded neighbours. Other GCers use Big Br*nds 4 Less too.

    Invest in a breadmaker - we have saved so much by making our own bread. The prices in the shops are extortionate for bread these days. There's loads of advice on this thread and others in the forum on this.

    Use the recipe lists - always posted at the front of a new thread. There are fantastic, tasty, healthy and economical recipes to use on them and there are a number of other threads on the forum such as Weezl's that will help you to eat well on a budget.

    Shop locally - the local greengrocer (or preferably market but I don't have one ) is usually cheaper as an option for fruit and veg (f&v) than the sm. Often the prices may look the same but when you look at the quantity for the same price the greengrocer will be cheaper. The same goes for the local butcher. Often you will have far more variety of meat available, advice on how to cook a particular meat can be offered and there is (for me at least) no comparison in terms of quality. We buy our huge FR eggs there and I'm yet to find an equivalent FR egg in a sm at the same or lower price. Obvioulsy if you have your own chicks/know someone who has chicks you can get them even cheaper again.

    Grow your own - it's quite simple to grow some f&v at home even if it's only in pots on the patio. There are also supportive threads on the forum for this.

    Cook your own - making meals at home from ingredients is far more economical, often tastes better than shop bought and is probably far better healthwise.

    Meal Plan - this is something that others can advise on as we don't do it. I have a tremendous capacity for eating the same food over many days but presented in slightly different form. For example, we could buy 7 worth of brisket from the butchers and eat it as pot roast for a couple of days, sliced for sarnies, sliced with a salad, chucked into a casserole or shredded up and fried as crispy beef.

    Don't waste food - either only make what you need or use any leftovers for other meals/creations or freeze it for another day.

    Withdraw the cash you want to spend - and keep it in a separate purse. This can be particularly effective as you have the money in front of you reducing rather than spending with plastic which is so easy to lose track of. Very useful when you first start out.

    Don't go to the shops to browse - this can only lead to pain and hardship!!!

    Keep posting and reading the thread - there really is no better supportive, wise and inspirational place to be! I think I saw that somebody mentioned forgetting to read/post. I get around this by using the Advanced button to post, below the window where your text is displayed you will see Additional Options. In the Thread Subscription box use the dropdown to select either instant email notification (this is what I use) or daily email notification before you submit your latest post. Then you will get an email into your inbox from which you can click to the thread to see what others are saying.

    Always remember the sm is not your friend - it wants to profit from you and take as much of your money as it can coerce out of you!

    So, there you go as a starting point. Others on here will offer tremendous advice on meal planning. And don't forget, the only silly question is the one you didn't ask!

    See you all later,
    Spigs
    For quidelines on posting in this thread please read the second post in this thread.

    For the Grocery challenge Recipe Index please see posts #3, #4, #5 and #6 on this thread.

    For everyones totals, see post #7 on this thread

    I hope everyone has a great month!

    Zip
    Last edited by zippychick; 19-04-2012 at 5:45 PM.
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  • chelseabun
    Evening!

    First spend of the month, although I don't actually get paid until Monday! Went to Mr M's, spent more than I hoped - 49.64. It should cover at least a couple of weeks for freezer and store cupboard, so next week all we'll need is milk, fresh veg and fruit. It also included two bottles of wine, which bumped it up a bit!

    I went through the freezers and did an inventory today Let's just say that last time I did it was in 2008, and some of the meat was still there! I'm guessing it won't all be edible but if it looks and smells ok when it's defrosted, we'll give it a go!

    Jumblejack's bread looks fab - is the recipe on here somewhere?

    Have a good evening all!
    CBx
    GC2012 May 144.65 / 200, June 50.82 / 200
    2012 NSD
    May 12 / 31, June 3 / 30
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    A slow cooker is a marvellous thing!

  • bikelesschick
    Hello! Not been around in April at all as I completely lost track of ALL of my spending. I don't think it was great from my bank balance, but it doesn't seem to have been a complete disaster. We spent over 300 in GC's March which I'm not very happy about as there's only 2 of us and a puppy/young dog. I know that it's not generally recommended to lower the budget until you're comfortable with the one you've been setting yourself but I found myself thinking 'I still have x for this month' and spending 'x-a little bit' on the previous months . So I'm challenging myself and setting 200 for May (I'll just update my sig Helen, thank you!). I've found out we have a lid* nearby so I'll be popping in there rather than relying solely on Mr T and I'm considering having a 2nd purse as well but this may not happen till June. We'll see. I found out I'm pregnant a few weeks ago and have been very tired so may not be able to post regularly but will try to read the thread regularly and will definitely report at the end of May (I find that doing these help me keeping on track so thank you all!). Good luck everyone and thanks to everyone who keeps this thread going!!
    Baby girl born 3rd October 2012
  • jumblejack
    Evening!

    First spend of the month, although I don't actually get paid until Monday! Went to Mr M's, spent more than I hoped - 49.64. It should cover at least a couple of weeks for freezer and store cupboard, so next week all we'll need is milk, fresh veg and fruit. It also included two bottles of wine, which bumped it up a bit!

    I went through the freezers and did an inventory today Let's just say that last time I did it was in 2008, and some of the meat was still there! I'm guessing it won't all be edible but if it looks and smells ok when it's defrosted, we'll give it a go!

    Jumblejack's bread looks fab - is the recipe on here somewhere?

    Have a good evening all!
    CBx
    Originally posted by chelseabun
    Here you go:


    JJ's Herby Cheese Bread

    Mix ingredients together in this order below with a fork until it forms into a ball, then finish with clean hands:


    8oz SR flour

    1.5oz fat (any will do: butter/marg/suet/spread/reserved fat from cooking joints, etc)

    4oz grated cheese

    Handful of herbs (I prefer chives)

    1 egg

    Up to 1/4 pint of milk (add gradually as if making scones. You may not need the whole amount)

    1 tsp mustard.


    If too wet add more flour, if too dry add more milk.

    Method for bread to accompany a soup:


    Pat/roll it into a circle on a tray.

    Cut it into 6 wedges and slightly part them.

    Glaze with egg or milk.

    Looks like this as they go in the oven:

    15 mins or until golden around 200 degrees
    Then it should look like this (mmmmm, smell that!):

    Verdict: Nom!


    Method for dumplings:

    Roll into 6 (or more if you want smaller ones) balls and add to a simmering stew.

    Pop back into oven with the lid off and allow to cook in the liquid.
    Cooking time depends on the temperature I'd oven and size of the dumplings. I usually leave em in a good 20 mins.
    Last edited by jumblejack; 28-04-2012 at 9:43 PM.
    Every moment is a gift. That's why we call it the present.!
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    • Florenceem
    • By Florenceem 28th Apr 12, 9:51 PM
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    Florenceem
    FLORENCEEM coooeeeeeeeee whats for dinner? ..............waiting on the photos !!!!!
    Originally posted by craigywv
    Sorry - I was watching Casualty and the news - all the TV I watch on a Saturday.
    15 in 2015 1/15
    • Florenceem
    • By Florenceem 28th Apr 12, 9:54 PM
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    Florenceem
    Hello! Not been around in April at all as I completely lost track of ALL of my spending. I don't think it was great from my bank balance, but it doesn't seem to have been a complete disaster. We spent over 300 in GC's March which I'm not very happy about as there's only 2 of us and a puppy/young dog. I know that it's not generally recommended to lower the budget until you're comfortable with the one you've been setting yourself but I found myself thinking 'I still have x for this month' and spending 'x-a little bit' on the previous months . So I'm challenging myself and setting 200 for May (I'll just update my sig Helen, thank you!). I've found out we have a lid* nearby so I'll be popping in there rather than relying solely on Mr T and I'm considering having a 2nd purse as well but this may not happen till June. We'll see. I found out I'm pregnant a few weeks ago and have been very tired so may not be able to post regularly but will try to read the thread regularly and will definitely report at the end of May (I find that doing these help me keeping on track so thank you all!). Good luck everyone and thanks to everyone who keeps this thread going!!
    Originally posted by bikelesschick
    Congrats on the baby news! Healthy diet now please.
    15 in 2015 1/15
    • Florenceem
    • By Florenceem 28th Apr 12, 9:56 PM
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    Florenceem
    Here you go:


    JJ's Herby Cheese Bread

    Mix ingredients together in this order below with a fork until it forms into a ball, then finish with clean hands:


    8oz SR flour

    1.5oz fat (any will do: butter/marg/suet/spread/reserved fat from cooking joints, etc)

    4oz grated cheese

    Handful of herbs (I prefer chives)

    1 egg

    Up to 1/4 pint of milk (add gradually as if making scones. You may not need the whole amount)

    1 tsp mustard.


    If too wet add more flour, if too dry add more milk.

    Method for bread to accompany a soup:


    Pat/roll it into a circle on a tray.

    Cut it into 6 wedges and slightly part them.

    Glaze with egg or milk.

    Looks like this as they go in the oven:

    15 mins or until golden around 200 degrees
    Then it should look like this (mmmmm, smell that!):

    Verdict: Nom!


    Method for dumplings:

    Roll into 6 (or more if you want smaller ones) balls and add to a simmering stew.

    Pop back into oven with the lid off and allow to cook in the liquid.
    Cooking time depends on the temperature I'd oven and size of the dumplings. I usually leave em in a good 20 mins.
    Originally posted by jumblejack
    JJ - Did you use ready made or mustard powder please?
    15 in 2015 1/15
    • Florenceem
    • By Florenceem 28th Apr 12, 9:58 PM
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    Florenceem
    Saturday.
    NSD here.
    We had roast potatoes, beef/onion slice, carrot, onion,swede and baked onion for dinner.



    While the oven was on I cooked some chinese style chicken ready for tomorrow. Just have to cook rice and do peas in the MW.
    15 in 2015 1/15
  • jumblejack
    JJ - Did you use ready made or mustard powder please?
    Originally posted by Florenceem
    Tesco value english mustard
    Every moment is a gift. That's why we call it the present.!
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  • jumblejack
    NSD here.
    We had roast potatoes, beef/onion slice, carrot, onion,swede and baked onion for dinner.



    While the oven was on I cooked some chinese style chicken ready for tomorrow. Just have to cook rice and do peas in the MW.
    Originally posted by Florenceem
    Loving the look of the baked onion!!!!!!!!!!

    Do you just peel and pop in the oven as it is whilst the rest of the dinner is cooking? I bet it is really sweet!

    My kids and OH have gone to a Jamaican 'do' so will be having a Jamaican buffet there. I am too burnt out to accompany them and have really enjoyed trawling the threads tonight

    As it is just me, I have had similar to your pic today: cheese n pickles!

    It was on crackers though and the
    pickle I had is my only vice: Brinjal Pickle. It is to die for!!!!!!
    I had rather a lot though as once you pop you can't stop where this is concerned. It was certainly not worthy of a photo
    Dinner was a simple salad with new potatoes as I needed to use up some stuff.
    Last edited by jumblejack; 28-04-2012 at 10:09 PM.
    Every moment is a gift. That's why we call it the present.!
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    • Florenceem
    • By Florenceem 28th Apr 12, 10:12 PM
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    Florenceem
    Tesco value english mustard
    Originally posted by jumblejack
    I used fresh mustard and utterly butterly for the first time - wondered if that made my scone mix wet.
    15 in 2015 1/15
    • Florenceem
    • By Florenceem 28th Apr 12, 10:16 PM
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    Florenceem
    Loving the look of the baked onion!!!!!!!!!!

    Do you just peel and pop in the oven as it is whilst the rest of the dinner is cooking? I bet it is really sweet!

    My kids and OH have gone to a Jamaican 'do' so will be having a Jamaican buffet there. I am too burnt out to accompany them and have really enjoyed trawling the threads tonight

    As it is just me, I have had similar to your pic today: cheese n pickles!

    It was on crackers though and the
    pickle I had is my only vice: Brinjal Pickle. It is to die for!!!!!!
    I had rather a lot though as once you pop you can't stop where this is concerned. It was certainly not worthy of a photo
    Dinner was a simple salad with new potatoes as I needed to use up some stuff.
    Originally posted by jumblejack
    I peeled the onions and parboiled them in MW tub with the potatoes. Then they went in the oven wrapped in foil - so delicious. They take too long to cook/soften if not parboiled first - you must get a cheap MW.
    We got Mil a really low price basic one - did all she needed.
    15 in 2015 1/15
    • meg72
    • By meg72 28th Apr 12, 10:22 PM
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    is it just me or is anyone else finding it hard to THANK people for their posts, maybe just my computer?
    Originally posted by craigywv
    Not having any problem with thanking people, unless I forget I have done internet options and cleared the cookies, so need to sign in again, I do that often, senior moments in my case,
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  • jumblejack
    I used fresh mustard and utterly butterly for the first time - wondered if that made my scone mix wet.
    Originally posted by Florenceem
    No, I reckon it was my initial measurement for milk

    My scales are not reliable so the measurements I gave are based on my dodgy scales! The amended recipe should be much better now that you have pointed it out.

    Just add less milk/more flour until it becomes a workable dough. When done, it should be soft and moist inside. The cheese is mmmmmm as it is warm and gooey in the still warm bread!
    Every moment is a gift. That's why we call it the present.!
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  • jumblejack
    I peeled the onions and parboiled them in MW tub with the potatoes. Then they went in the oven wrapped in foil - so delicious. They take too long to cook/soften if not parboiled first - you must get a cheap MW.
    We got Mil a really low price basic one - did all she needed.
    Originally posted by Florenceem
    I am DEFINITELY going to try my hand at that at some point!!!!

    I do need a microwave. I am so tempted now that I have been baking the 2 minute sponges at mums most days. I really miss the reasons I had one in the first place now! I loved em for baking potatoes too! Oh and the best of all reason that I loved it was that it was so easy to make a choccy fudge pud for guests. I made it before hand but warm the individual slices for 8-10 seconds in the microwave to melt the topping before I scoop ice-cream out!!!
    I really fancy that again now I think of it.
    Every moment is a gift. That's why we call it the present.!
    Grocery Spend Weekly Challenge (Sat-Fri):30.50/40
    • Teg-Rem
    • By Teg-Rem 28th Apr 12, 11:56 PM
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    grocery challlenge
    can anyone please tell me how to log on to it am a bit of a dinosaur when it comes to computers i'm afraid.
    • Save Dosh
    • By Save Dosh 28th Apr 12, 11:59 PM
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    Teg Rem log onto what, if you are talking about the grocery challenge, you are already posting on it, to understand how it works, go to the bottom of the page numbers and go to the first page, which explains what to do.
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    • rising from the ashes
    • By rising from the ashes 29th Apr 12, 6:46 AM
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    rising from the ashes
    I found out I'm pregnant a few weeks ago and have been very tired so may not be able to post regularly but will try to read the thread regularly and will definitely report at the end of May
    Originally posted by bikelesschick
    Awwwww congratulations!

    Thanks for this I'm going to give this a go, both my children absolutely love peppers in any shape or form, do you serve it with anything else?

    I'm definitely going to be trying some of the recipes on the first page as my son has asked that wednesday be our 'try something new day' this week I'm going to be making my first ever risotto, which I have to say I'm a little bit scared about lol
    Originally posted by Gorgeestwo
    I often just have the peppers by themselves as they're quite filling with the savoury rice in - although I sometimes have a bit of salad too if I've got some that needs used up.

    I love the idea of the "try something new day" and must try to do that myself! I did Risotto for the first time a few months ago and I've found a great recipe (Chicken & Leek on the front page) which is really easy and also forgiving! I now have it at least twice a month - wish I'd been brave enough to try years ago!

    Jumblejack ohhhhh the herby cheese bread ...... ohhhhhh my mouth was watering just looking at the screen - and I swear I could smell them too! They look absolutely delicious

    I don't eat a lot of bread as I'm not ..... great shall we saw, with wheat but I may just be tempted to give them a try!

    Mrs Addicted to Spending best of luck with the exam when the time comes!
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    • craigywv
    • By craigywv 29th Apr 12, 7:28 AM
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    I used fresh mustard and utterly butterly for the first time - wondered if that made my scone mix wet.
    Originally posted by Florenceem
    me too u, butterly and wet mustard in a jar , maybe thats why mine was wet too, added more flour and it turned out lovely..............thanks for the pics dins looks lovely is that a hm steak slice?
    • Flat Eric
    • By Flat Eric 29th Apr 12, 7:31 AM
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    Flat Eric
    Hello EyesWideOpen at least with your extra stocks you can start meal planning to use them up.
    Craigywv - i seem able to thank people ok, hope you are able to get it sorted.
    Flat Eric- i think my overspends come from using the moc from the supermarket, its a habit i am trying really hard to get out of
    Originally posted by abitofhelp
    not awake yet - what does moc stand for ???

    • craigywv
    • By craigywv 29th Apr 12, 7:38 AM
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    craigywv
    I am DEFINITELY going to try my hand at that at some point!!!!

    I do need a microwave. I am so tempted now that I have been baking the 2 minute sponges at mums most days. I really miss the reasons I had one in the first place now! I loved em for baking potatoes too! Oh and the best of all reason that I loved it was that it was so easy to make a choccy fudge pud for guests. I made it before hand but warm the individual slices for 8-10 seconds in the microwave to melt the topping before I scoop ice-cream out!!!
    I really fancy that again now I think of it.
    Originally posted by jumblejack
    mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm choccy fudge pudding.............MUST HAVE RECIPE PLSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!! since i joined this forum i must have put on at least a stone i cant help myself between pasties hm cheesy bread 2 min micro puds i cant control the urge to make and it , telling myself its cheap and os excuses excuses !!! oh and ds love it perpetual aromas drifting around the house, ds even went into school the other morn and teacher kept smelling him saying he smelt like her grannies house when she baked. so son runnin around smellin like cupcakes(buns as we call them cc so U.S.A.) better than spag bol which we all reeked of the other day as i was on a cook to freeze crusade. away to boot sale now have a good day all. p.s. FLORENCEEM ,hope you enjoyed your programmes last night
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