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    • Former MSE Helen
    • By Former MSE Helen 10th Feb 12, 10:44 AM
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    MSE News: Sainsbury's food label switch could save shoppers money
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    • 10th Feb 12, 10:44 AM
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    MSE News: Sainsbury's food label switch could save shoppers money 10th Feb 12 at 10:44 AM
    This is the discussion thread for the following MSE News Story:

    "New labelling from Sainsbury's which aims to encourage people to freeze more food could prevent unnecessary waste ..."

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    • richardw
    • By richardw 10th Feb 12, 10:55 AM
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    It would be just easier for there to be a ban on volume promotions, ie 2 for 5 or 2.75 each, just make the item 2.50 each and then there would be no need to freeze the second item.
    • Greybeard0151
    • By Greybeard0151 10th Feb 12, 11:05 AM
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    • 10th Feb 12, 11:05 AM
    About time too! Common sense seem to be the one item missing from food labelling.
    Anyway, those like me and the missus who were growing up during or shortly after WW2 probably need no advice on not wasting food.
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    • 10th Feb 12, 11:17 AM
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    It would be just easier for there to be a ban on volume promotions, ie 2 for 5 or 2.75 each, just make the item 2.50 each and then there would be no need to freeze the second item.
    Originally posted by richardw
    I sort of understand what you're saying, but no-one is forced to buy more than one of anything they buy.
    If you haven't got freezer room, just buy one of the item you want.
    e.g Sometimes on the BOGOF satsuma packs, I only have 1 pack because I don't want to waste food. I've not lost out as such on price, - I have made that choice becaude I don't want to waste food.
    • richardw
    • By richardw 10th Feb 12, 11:21 AM
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    • 10th Feb 12, 11:21 AM
    Yes, nobody is forced, but all these incentives to purchase more is leading to food waste.
    • Lynsey
    • By Lynsey 10th Feb 12, 11:22 AM
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    Sometimes on the BOGOF satsuma packs, I only have 1 pack because I don't want to waste food. I've not lost out as such on price, - I have made that choice becaude I don't want to waste food.
    Originally posted by Dina Lady
    Why do you not take the "free" one and donate it??
    Someone else could maybe do the same in return??

    If something is BOGOF, BOG2F etc, I take the lot. They are generally over-priced anyway if buying a single pack when this offer is on, that in itself is a waste - a waste of money.

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    • oldvicar
    • By oldvicar 10th Feb 12, 11:39 AM
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    The "W" in WRAP stands for Waste, not Water
    • JimmyTheWig
    • By JimmyTheWig 10th Feb 12, 12:13 PM
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    • 10th Feb 12, 12:13 PM
    So why did they say "Freeze on day of purchase" in the first place?
    • Wee Pilsbury
    • By Wee Pilsbury 10th Feb 12, 12:45 PM
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    • 10th Feb 12, 12:45 PM
    So why did they say "Freeze on day of purchase" in the first place?
    Originally posted by JimmyTheWig
    I've always thought this was just another example of misleading labels. Let's face it, if a shop puts out 100 packs of bacon on a Monday (all with the same use by date for argument's sake) and I buy a pack on Monday with you buying a pack on the Friday, we are both being told to freeze on the day of purchase! What's the urgency for me to freeze the bacon when it doesn't become urgent for you until the Friday?

    Drives me mad this one
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    • esuhl
    • By esuhl 10th Feb 12, 12:50 PM
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    I've always ignored the "freeze on day of purchase" advice. It's daft to think that keeping something refrigerated in a shop is any different to being refrigerated at home.

    In any case, when you go to the freezer and see something that can be frozen for up to a month, unless you've carefully applied your own label, the only date you have to go on is the "use by date"... So I'm sure most people would just add a month to that to work out by when food needs to be used.
    • BlondeHeadOn
    • By BlondeHeadOn 10th Feb 12, 12:51 PM
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    I always used to ignore this instruction anyway, as I thought it was daft - I put things in the fridge, and if we haven't already eaten them by their 'use by' date I will then stick them in freezer on that date.

    Can't believe anyone ever followed this 'freeze on day of purchase' instuction, to be honest....
    • JimmyTheWig
    • By JimmyTheWig 10th Feb 12, 1:08 PM
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    I've always ignored the "freeze on day of purchase" advice. It's daft to think that keeping something refrigerated in a shop is any different to being refrigerated at home.
    Originally posted by esuhl
    Let's face it, if a shop puts out 100 packs of bacon on a Monday (all with the same use by date for argument's sake) and I buy a pack on Monday with you buying a pack on the Friday, we are both being told to freeze on the day of purchase! What's the urgency for me to freeze the bacon when it doesn't become urgent for you until the Friday?
    Originally posted by Wee Pilsbury
    I guess the only difference I see is that my packet of bacon has been in the supermarket fridge all that time, constantly at the correct temperature.

    Yours may have been left in the car for a couple of hours as you had stuff to do on your way home, left on the side for a while before you got around to putting it away, been out for a while on Wednesday morning when you planned to use it but then ran out of time. And for the rest of the time it has been in your fridge which may not be totally efficient, potentially has "warm" and "cold" spots and will have been opened and closed various times.

    But all that logic could be applied to the "use by" date, too. Why not "use on day of purchase" for fear of the above. Which is why I wonder what the logic behind the freezing instruction was.

    [In terms of what I would do, if I had "mistreated" my packet of bacon in the way described in my example I wouldn't be happy freezing it on its use-by date. But then I wouldn't be too happy using it that late on after all that variation in temperature.]
  • gazza975526570
    We have always froze stuff on (or god forbid a day or so later!!) including reduced fresh produce.

    Cant believe people would throw them away - with most foods you can smell if they are still ok.
    • WishI'dReadSooner
    • By WishI'dReadSooner 10th Feb 12, 3:04 PM
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    Those of us who live on whoopsies have done this for years - frozen whoopsies when we got them home. It was frozen on day of purchase for us!

    I do agree on the waste that happens on BOGOF's or even worse the buy 1 get 2 free deals. It would be FAR better especially for people on their own or couples if this were banned (by supermarkets being MADE to sell 1 item at 1/2 price or 1/3 of price of offer) and everyone could buy just 1 item at a time at a low price.

    I was seething the time Tescos had an offer on yogurt packs of 12 of buy 1 get 2 free. The price for one pack increased (as they always do) BUT apart from that how many people have room in their fridge for 3 packs of 12 yogurt?? ONLY larger families could eat them before the sell by date - a single person wouldn't stand a chance. Crazyness!
    • JimmyTheWig
    • By JimmyTheWig 10th Feb 12, 3:12 PM
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    Cant believe people would throw them away - with most foods you can smell if they are still ok.
    Originally posted by gazza975526570
    But you can't do that if you freeze them. Unless you open them first?
  • pollyskettle
    I always used to ignore this instruction anyway, as I thought it was daft - I put things in the fridge, and if we haven't already eaten them by their 'use by' date I will then stick them in freezer on that date.

    Can't believe anyone ever followed this 'freeze on day of purchase' instuction, to be honest....
    Originally posted by BlondeHeadOn
    This ^^^^ It surely can't be news to anyone that you don't HAVE to freeze it on the day you bought it, you can actually do it later than that!
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    • scottishminnie
    • By scottishminnie 10th Feb 12, 6:39 PM
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    Can't believe anyone ever followed this 'freeze on day of purchase' instuction, to be honest....
    Originally posted by BlondeHeadOn
    Couldn't agree more - I don't think for one moment that people are as stupid as Sainsbury's would like to hope they are. Do the supermarkets think we hang on their every word?

    As for anyone who threw perfectly good food out because they forgot to put in in the freezer on the day of purchase - they obviously have money to waste and deserve no sympathy.

    This is a non news story if ever there was one but the newspapers and tv had soaked it up like big sponges yet again.
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    I've always done this, and if food out of the fridge or the freezer isn't chasing me round the kitchen - it's fit to eat.
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    • callum9999
    • By callum9999 10th Feb 12, 6:56 PM
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    I think the logic behind "freeze on day of purchase" is to try and get you to freeze it as soon as possible. Everyone knows it shouldn't be taken literally, but the sooner you freeze it the better it will keep. It doesn't specifically say you can't freeze it afterwards, but it is time for it to be retired I agree.
  • Dina Lady
    Why do you not take the "free" one and donate it??
    Someone else could maybe do the same in return??

    If something is BOGOF, BOG2F etc, I take the lot. They are generally over-priced anyway if buying a single pack when this offer is on, that in itself is a waste - a waste of money.

    Lynsey
    Originally posted by Lynsey
    How can spending 2 on 1 thing I will use rather than 5 on 3 things where 1 goes to waste, be wasting money??
    Take out the rude way you said to 'donate' the free pack of whatever on BOGOF, I am spending money just on what I need and will not waste.

    You are lucky to have enough money to get the inflated special offers, don't preach when you know nothing about what others do.
    Last edited by Dina Lady; 10-02-2012 at 7:18 PM.
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