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    • Spendless
    • By Spendless 16th Feb 05, 12:25 PM
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    Problem with taking Pack-up
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    • 16th Feb 05, 12:25 PM
    Problem with taking Pack-up 16th Feb 05 at 12:25 PM
    Following on from my earlier post. I have a problem where husband finds himself having to buy his dinner (normally sandwiches out). We keep a seperate account for this but it does eat into our budget. If i outline a typical scenario maybe someone can come up with some suggestions.

    Last week husband set off from our house (in S.Yorks) to go for a meeting in Falmouth the following day.I packed him up with sandwiches and drink for the trip to Cornwall. That evening he got an evening meal at hotel and breakfast followind day (expenses), had his meeting then drove back home. On the way back he bought a pre-packed sandwich for lunch. Traffic was very busy so he didn't come off motorway to find anywhere cheaper.

    I don't fancy the thought of packing 2 days worth of sandwiches (and hubby would eat lot anyway lol) that has to be kept overnight.

    This is quite a common occurrance for us so any suggestions i would be greatful of.

    Another thing that can happen like today, is if he has a business appt with a customer and is not sure of what they do for lunch, sometimes they buy his lunch for him, which is great but it means he throws his sandwiches away (he's after the business so doesn't feel he can refuse hospitality) but sometimes he doesn't take pack up in case that happens (like today) but then
    that isn't what they do and he ends up buying out.

    So what to do - make the pack-up and risk it being slung or not make it and risk him having to buy out?

    He normally only has a couple of days notice to where he's going and when.

    Any ideas anyone.
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  • Mrs Thrift
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    • 16th Feb 05, 12:37 PM
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    • 16th Feb 05, 12:37 PM
    I'd say give him the packed lunch every time, and risk that getting slung, as you waste less money on that than on having to buy lunch out. I know it seems awful to make up sandwiches that have a large chance of being thrown away, but it's only a few pence worth, compared to the few pounds he'd spend on buying lunch out.

    If he was in a city with beggars, your hubby might even be able to give his sandwiches away to someone who appreciates it. My hubby did this in London with something, but I can't remember what. (Also, when we won loads of pennies on the penny pushers in Blackpool just before closing time, he gave them to a guy who was in a doorway in his sleeping bag, whereas I wouldn't even have thought of that and would've probably lugged them around - I'm not as naturally generous as him!)
  • Lillibet
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    • 16th Feb 05, 12:47 PM
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    • 16th Feb 05, 12:47 PM
    What aboout packing lunches up in those mini-cool bags with an ice pack to keep them fresh for longer? If Hubby is in a hotel overnight could he put spares in the mini-bar fridge? (maybe 2 mini-cool bags so that he knows one lot is for the next day!) Or make sandwiches up in advance & freeze them, they will slowly defrost & stay fresh for longer & chill other food at the same time? As alternatives to sandwiches what about dried packet soups & packs of cous-cous? Could hubby make these up in a thermos before he leaves the hotel in the mornings?

    Don't know if any of this helps?
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    • MATH
    • By MATH 16th Feb 05, 12:47 PM
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    Had the same prob with Mrs MATH. Somestimes they were eaten but often lunch presentations/meetings would come up or folk would take her out for lunch and they got bined. We gave up in the end :9(
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    • elona
    • By elona 16th Feb 05, 12:48 PM
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    • 16th Feb 05, 12:48 PM
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    • 16th Feb 05, 12:48 PM
    I agree with Ms-thrift

    It is still cheaper to make up sandwiches and you never know if a meeting is changed to somewhere akward to buy food then the sandwiches are a lifesaver.
    Is it worth having apples,crisps etc in car with a flask of tea or coffee every day just in case.
    I know what you mean about men and sandwiches - my husband used to keep complaining about ones I made saying bread was still frozen! I would make it at 6.30 am on way to work expecting that by 12 noon they would be fine. Eventually the penny dropped and I asked casually When did you eat them -Oh about 8.30 as I was hungry! Short sharp discussion then ensued.
    That was years ago but there are times I think they do it on purpose! LOL
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    • Ticklemouse
    • By Ticklemouse 16th Feb 05, 1:30 PM
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    • 16th Feb 05, 1:30 PM
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    • 16th Feb 05, 1:30 PM
    Does he like other things that don't go off as quickly and can be lugged around easily for a couple of days. Mt TM has cut bread out of his diet and is now experimenting with things like rice cakes and small tins of fish. He can keep quite a few at work and just eat them when he wants. You could try packs of crispbread, rice cakes, oatcakes and individual tins of foods like various fish, sandwich toppers etc. (Can't be more specific as I don't buy those) They may be a little more expensive, but then if they're not used, they will keep and you don't have to throw stuff away. Also, lots of fruit. Good idea about the flask - can fill it from the hotel kettle and mix soups etc whilst out.
  • Lucie
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    • 16th Feb 05, 1:54 PM
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    • 16th Feb 05, 1:54 PM
    Instead of him taking sandwiches away with him for 2 days, can you send him with the stuff to make up the sandwiches? Ie 2 slices bread (buttered if necessary) plus some ham, chicken, cheese, tuna, egg mayo etc. If they're kept in a cool bag & wrapped separately then they should be a bit nicer to eat. The bread won't go soggy or anything. You could try other things, like sausage rolls, pasties etc. Add a couple of pieces of fruit, a bag of crisps & a kit kat & that should be enough to stop him spending at service stations. Freeze cartons of juice / bottles of water & they can act as ice packs in the cool bag. Asda had a load of mini cool bags - perfect size for lunches for about 1.50. worth a look.
    • r.mac
    • By r.mac 16th Feb 05, 1:56 PM
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    Some great ideas here. I am going to try a couple of them out. A favourite lunch of mine is humous with 'bit's' like carrot etc. however I found that by the time I came to eat them the veg was a bit dry and curled and unappetising. I find that by packing them in a little cold water, or with some ice cudes, they stay cool and fresh and can last two days at work, so in some cases I can do two days worth at a time.

    If you dont have ice packs frozen cartons of juice work just as well.
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  • Galtizz
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    • 16th Feb 05, 2:32 PM
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    How about homemade soup in a flask? If it isn't eaten then you can just pour it into a pot and re-heat it for the next day. It won't keep warm for 2 days, but it would solve the problem of not knowing if he is going to be treated to lunch or not.

    Hmm, men and pack-up. Mine always used to moan I'd either made too many or not enough depending on how heavy the work was (he's a builder) I didn't know if he was going to want lots or not many.

    Now he has a loaf, butter, paste and a knife which live in the van so he makes his own at lunch (or at 8:30am!) Not sure how we are going to keep the butter hard through summer, if I give him a cool box he'll just leave it in the van. I guess it spreads easier when it has melted
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    • vanoonoo
    • By vanoonoo 16th Feb 05, 3:31 PM
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    He normally only has a couple of days notice to where he's going and when.

    Any ideas anyone.
    by Spendless
    on a slight aside when I was working away from home alot - I could claim a per deium fixed amount depending on how many meals I was away from home for and where in the world I was.

    an over night trip in the uk usually covered evening meal and breakfast and the next days lunch as they had worked out I obviously wouldnt be at home to make my own lunch. I think I got about 20 per night PLUS my breakfast and evening meal being paid for.

    is there nothing that Mr Spendless can claim for (you dont have to spend it and you dont have to present receipts)
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    • Spendless
    • By Spendless 16th Feb 05, 4:29 PM
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    If he stops at a hotel overnight and doesn't have a meal there (for example if they don't do them or he arrives too late) he can claim for a meal on expenses. I don't know if it's a maximum or just as long as it's reasonable claim but i didn't know he could possibly claim for his lunch the following day - that's something to be looked into -thanks.

    In the meantime i like the idea of giving him stuff so he can make sandwiches himself - that (hopefully!) should stop him eating 2 lots in one day! and also should eliminate waste.

    Thanks.
    • Bogof_Babe
    • By Bogof_Babe 16th Feb 05, 5:25 PM
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    Make him up a "kitbag" with a packet of cream crackers or similar, a tube of squirty cheese, a tin of ham or cooked sandwich meat, a plastic picnic plate and beaker, a knife (not plastic, needs to be versatile) and a tin-opener. Also maybe some muesli-type snack bars or choccy in whatever form he likes it. Leave in his car permanently and replace items as used.

    He can always buy some rolls and a small tub of marg/spread for less than 1 while he's out. The crackers are for if he really can't find a shop open late at night, or other emergency. He can also buy or make hot drinks, or buy a bottle or can. He can also buy fruit. Or there is always bound to be a chip shop somewhere en route!
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    • Bogof_Babe
    • By Bogof_Babe 16th Feb 05, 5:36 PM
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    Forgot to say, put a teaspoon and a soup/desert spoon in the pack - he might fancy a pot noodle, cup-a-soup or tin of fruit for desert!
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  • Lucie
    i didn't know he could possibly claim for his lunch the following day - that's something to be looked into -thanks.
    by Spendless
    I'm not allowed to claim for lunch if I'm out on work business, but I do get a 4 per night "other expenses" allowance which I do not have to provide receipts for. That usually covers the cost of a petrol station sandwich.
    • Spendless
    • By Spendless 16th Feb 05, 6:23 PM
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    I've mentioned this being able to claim for lunch to husband and he's said that there are things he's allowed to claim he just doesn't want to take the mickey...

    It's not possible for me to work part-time in the evenings like i used to cos he's away- a loss of over 3,000 p.a but he doesn't want to claim a fiver for a sandwich.. MEN __AARRGGHH!!!!

    I like BOGOFs idea of a kit - i'll be doing that.
    • elona
    • By elona 17th Feb 05, 9:42 AM
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    Spendless
    try telling him that 5 twice a week for a sandwich comes to 520 in a year and if you add any other odds and ends it could be a lot more.

    Obviously you know how best to put it and wether " gosh - it is good of you to give the company over 500 a year!" would go down well.
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    • Ticklemouse
    • By Ticklemouse 17th Feb 05, 9:54 AM
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    On the thoughts of soup etc, has anyone tried those in car heated mug thingies you plug into the ciggy lighter? You can pick them up for a few pounds in places like Matalan, so he could take either a flask of soup and reheat if it's too cool or keep tins in the car and use as necessary. Haven't got one myself so don't know if they're any good - maybe someone else can tell you if they are worth it?
    • Bogof_Babe
    • By Bogof_Babe 17th Feb 05, 10:41 AM
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    As for not claiming small expenses, I have worked for bosses who asked for receipts in the post office for one first class stamp, and claimed it back!

    If it is a genuine expense then he should claim it. There is enough fiddling going on, which is probably costing companies thousands of , and basic food while travelling on company business should certainly be reimbursed.
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    • bramval
    • By bramval 17th Feb 05, 11:32 AM
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    If you accept that the occasional throwing away of a sandwich is inevitable then the answer is to make the sandwiches as cheaply as possible. I make my own bread rolls, fill them with something tasty (tinned tuna/mackerel etc) as soon as they have cooled, and make up a couple of weeks' supply, wrap them in clingfilm and put them in the freezer.

    He could then just pick one up on his way out (so convenient) and they are as fresh as when they were made, as well as being delicious because they are made from really fresh bread.

    I tried costing it on one occasion and it came out something like this:-

    Cost of flour - 69 pence (Morrisons own label is my favourite)
    Yeast - Free just ask at the bakery section in Tesco or ASDA
    Salt - Next to nothing
    Fat - Next to Nothing
    Water

    So for about 80 pence max you will be able to make 20 rolls weighing 4 ounces each - 4pence per roll.

    Tin of good Tuna costs about 60 pence and does 5 rolls = 12 pence each

    Total cost therefore 16 pence per roll and you have a delicious and substantial sandwich (not the synthetic bread you buy in the supermarkets).

    At that price you don't mind so much if one geth binned occasionally. For even greater convenience you could use a breadmaker for part of the process but I find making the bread by hand very enjoyable.
  • Lillibet
    On the thoughts of soup etc, has anyone tried those in car heated mug thingies you plug into the ciggy lighter? You can pick them up for a few pounds in places like Matalan, so he could take either a flask of soup and reheat if it's too cool or keep tins in the car and use as necessary. Haven't got one myself so don't know if they're any good - maybe someone else can tell you if they are worth it?
    by Ticklemouse
    We've got one, they're good for re-heating from warm to hot but not nearly powerful enough to heat up from cold.
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