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    • MSE Guy
    • By MSE Guy 30th Dec 09, 2:15 PM
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    MSE News: The £850 a year cost of iTunes loyalty
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    • 30th Dec 09, 2:15 PM
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    MSE News: The £850 a year cost of iTunes loyalty 30th Dec 09 at 2:15 PM
    This is the discussion thread for the following MSE News Story:

    "Music fans who download tracks from the same online store could be paying hundreds of pounds a year too much ..."

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    • duggie1982
    • By duggie1982 30th Dec 09, 6:14 PM
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    Click the article and 'page cannot be displayed!!
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    • 30th Dec 09, 6:39 PM
    Big ol' 404 for me...........
    What if the Hokey Pokey really is what it's all about !!!
    • jenniewb
    • By jenniewb 31st Dec 09, 2:14 AM
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    • 31st Dec 09, 2:14 AM
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    • 31st Dec 09, 2:14 AM
    Is working now.

    Am shocked- 408 albums a year downloaded!! Wow- I love my music but am not sure if I actually download that many! (sorry to heckle you OP!)

    Am laughing though as I use Napster. It is a subscription service so I do have to keep up the contract, but for £150 a year I can download whatever and however much I want! Have had to clear my 8GB MP3 twice this last year to make room for more tunes! Been with Napster about 2 or so years now? There are some holes in the software but then I notice the same holes with Itunes and its even more frustrating when you pay per tune!

    Guess thats a money saving £1830 to £2861!
  • mrJ
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    • 31st Dec 09, 7:18 AM
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    • 31st Dec 09, 7:18 AM
    Who would download every top 40 album throughout the year?
  • *MF*
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    • 31st Dec 09, 7:59 AM
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    • 31st Dec 09, 7:59 AM
    Advertising currently pays the price you might otherwise pay for watching ITV, CH4 etc etc etc. We have all grown accustomed to that choice.

    Downloading the music you want - for free - may be about to follow that established pattern.

    This additional choice is about to be launched in the USA in the new year - if it works, should we be surprised to see it cross the pond?

    Extracts from New York Times:

    FreeAllMusic.com, which began a test version for invited users on Dec. 22 and plans to open to the public in January, will allow users to download songs, which may be copied and shared ó unencumbered, in other words, by digital rights management restrictions.

    In return, instead of paying 99 cents a song as on iTunes, users must first watch a 15- to 30-second advertisement.

    Two of the four major labels have signed with the service and will provide their full digital catalogs, said Mr. Nailling, who declined to name the labels. Six advertisers are on board for the siteís debut, he added, including Coca-Cola, Warner Brothers Television and Zappos.com.

    Full article here:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/30/business/media/30adco.html?_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rss
    Last edited by *MF*; 31-12-2009 at 8:03 AM.
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    • claire21
    • By claire21 31st Dec 09, 9:25 AM
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    • 31st Dec 09, 9:25 AM
    I am new to this technogly, we have a sony mp3 player and an apple ipod (xmas), I thought with an ipod you could only get music from itunes - I take it I am wrong, where else can I get music for an ipod please?
  • real1314
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    • 31st Dec 09, 9:30 AM
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    • 31st Dec 09, 9:30 AM
    I am new to this technogly, we have a sony mp3 player and an apple ipod (xmas), I thought with an ipod you could only get music from itunes - I take it I am wrong, where else can I get music for an ipod please?
    Originally posted by claire21

    Anywhere. And your own CDs too.

    Stick a CD in your PC and iTunes will copy it all over and put it in your library.

    Get songs from other on-line sources and you can add them to your library (File>import iirc)
    • rjay
    • By rjay 31st Dec 09, 10:04 AM
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    • 31st Dec 09, 10:04 AM
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    • 31st Dec 09, 10:04 AM
    Advertising currently pays the price you might otherwise pay for watching ITV, CH4 etc etc etc. We have all grown accustomed to that choice.

    Downloading the music you want - for free - may be about to follow that established pattern.
    Originally posted by *MF*
    That's a bad analogy. We've already had the equivalent for decades: it's called commercial radio.

    But what your news story is talking about is ownership of music. If you want ownership of programs from ITV, CH4, etc., you still have to buy it (ie DVD).
  • *MF*
    ^ very fair comment ... I stand corrected.

    Could I kid on one of my "etc" was intended that way - nah, wouldn't be true!


    PS: Just in case, I was "sitting" corrected.
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    • RobertoMoir
    • By RobertoMoir 31st Dec 09, 2:58 PM
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    I am new to this technogly, we have a sony mp3 player and an apple ipod (xmas), I thought with an ipod you could only get music from itunes - I take it I am wrong, where else can I get music for an ipod please?
    Originally posted by claire21
    To further Real's comments, any MP3 file or unprotected windows audio you have (and probably other formats I have never tried) can be imported into itunes by dragging it from the folder on your computer it's currently on into the itunes music window. I have a very extensive collection of CDs I have built up over the years and MP3s I have purchased from various online stores which have all been imported into itunes just fine.

    The only things you need to buy from itunes are the things you _want_ to buy from itunes - e.g. when they have the best deal available for something or when you simply can't be bothered to go hunting around based on price.

    The only thing I would say is that if you buy from elsewhere online with the intention of importing into itunes (or any other player to be honest, this isn't an "apple only" problem by any means) then it needs to be unprotected / non-DRM stuff, e.g. not locked down to just being played in that online store's player (I think this is/was an issue with buying from napster to play in itunes (or vice-versa), for example).
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  • MoneyMaker112
    I know iTunes isn't the cheapest, but its certainly the easiest & doesn't have to have any cards involved.

    I will be sticking with iTunes through and through :P
    • savemoney
    • By savemoney 31st Dec 09, 3:59 PM
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    I have couple of ipods at home, dont use itunes at all nor the program I tend to use mediamonkey (need itunes program to be installed for a couple of files it needs) and rip my own tracks from cd as I like the backup. I just drag mp3's into the media monkey and select import you can do this with itunes too
  • oakhouse13
    My 3 teenage kids all use something called spotify, never pay for anything and have tons of what they want to listen to, and I don't think what they are doing is illegal.
    • RobertoMoir
    • By RobertoMoir 1st Jan 10, 12:24 PM
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    My 3 teenage kids all use something called spotify, never pay for anything and have tons of what they want to listen to, and I don't think what they are doing is illegal.
    Originally posted by oakhouse13
    Perfectly legal but IIRC last time I tried Spotify you're either "renting" tracks to listen to on your PC, or possibly even just listening to it "radio" style, which is all you need to listen to stuff at home but not so helpful to take music out and about with you.
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    • LadyMorticia
    • By LadyMorticia 1st Jan 10, 1:52 PM
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    Is working now.

    Am shocked- 408 albums a year downloaded!! Wow- I love my music but am not sure if I actually download that many! (sorry to heckle you OP!)

    Am laughing though as I use Napster. It is a subscription service so I do have to keep up the contract, but for £150 a year I can download whatever and however much I want! Have had to clear my 8GB MP3 twice this last year to make room for more tunes! Been with Napster about 2 or so years now? There are some holes in the software but then I notice the same holes with Itunes and its even more frustrating when you pay per tune!

    Guess thats a money saving £1830 to £2861!
    Originally posted by jenniewb
    I'm very tempted to try Napster but on the website, the packages only list a certain number of mp3s you can keep a month.

    I can't find anything about unlimited downloads, which is ideally what I would like, no matter how much the monthly fee as I'm an avid music lover.
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    • claire21
    • By claire21 1st Jan 10, 5:42 PM
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    Thanks all for the useful advice for a newbie mp3 person
    • james123
    • By james123 1st Jan 10, 6:52 PM
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    www.we7.com is very good aswell, i wouldnt buy music from there as it is quite expensive, however their free streaming service is great.
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    • bob_a_builder
    • By bob_a_builder 1st Jan 10, 7:23 PM
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    I know iTunes isn't the cheapest, but its certainly the easiest & doesn't have to have any cards involved.

    I will be sticking with iTunes through and through :P
    I see Steve Jobs now has an MSE account ...

    username seems to fit too ...
    Last edited by bob_a_builder; 01-01-2010 at 7:25 PM.
  • GrammarGirl
    Spotify is music streaming - you search for the tracks/albums you want and listen to them through your computer but you can't take them off your computer - burn them to a CD or load them onto an iPod, for example. The free version of Spotify also plays adverts at the end of every other song.

    I *think* you can get Spotify on the iPhone now - I'm sure my OH has it. He pays for the premium version, though.
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