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    Former MSE Lawrence
    'Do you pay to download music?' Poll discussion
    • #1
    • 7th Dec 09, 11:37 AM
    'Do you pay to download music?' Poll discussion 7th Dec 09 at 11:37 AM
    Poll ran 07-14 Dec 2009:

    Do you pay to download music?


    Last week, we launched the new www.tunechecker.com legal MP3 download comparison site. Yet of course piracy is common and many people still download music and films for free... Where do you stand on this issue?

    Which of these is closest to your situation over the last year?

    A. Always legal. I pay for all tracks (unless they’re being given away) - 29% (2634 votes)
    B. Mostly legal. I usually pay but have occasionally done illegal downloads. - 13% (1208 votes)
    C. Mostly illegal. Though I sometimes buy tracks - 13% (1148 votes)
    D. Always illegal. I never pay for tracks - 18% (1595 votes)
    E. Don’t/ rarely download (either buy CDs or don’t buy music) - 28% (2521 votes)

    Total Votes: 9106

    Voting has now closed, but you can still click 'post reply' to discuss below. Thanks

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    Last edited by Former MSE Lawrence; 14-12-2009 at 12:29 PM.
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    • irishwench69
    • By irishwench69 7th Dec 09, 11:56 AM
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    • 7th Dec 09, 11:56 AM
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    • 7th Dec 09, 11:56 AM
    Guess I'll start off

    I don't download (love music but just don't really need to - online radio at work, mp3 for commute (but can burn tracks off my cds!), then radio or tv (for videos) at home......

    If I did download, definitely wouldn't go illegal - why, when there's reasonably priced music to be found? (even if you do have to search a bit harder sometimes!)

    Not a fool though - get cds online - you can get some really good deals

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  • dmcallister1506
    • #3
    • 7th Dec 09, 1:22 PM
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    • 7th Dec 09, 1:22 PM
    I always buy online. Full albums from Tesco for about 3.97 - and in near perfect quality? Why go illegal especially if you don't know what the quality is like. Used to buy a lot of CDs but prefer to download them now - the best move I've ever made. With prices this low, why download illegally?
    • robin banks
    • By robin banks 7th Dec 09, 2:17 PM
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    • 7th Dec 09, 2:17 PM
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    • 7th Dec 09, 2:17 PM
    I buy real music, either CD's, tape or vinyl. I convert to MP3 thereafter.
    "An arrogant and self-righteous Guardian reading tvv@t".

    wtf is all that about?
    • f300
    • By f300 7th Dec 09, 2:28 PM
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    • 7th Dec 09, 2:28 PM
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    • 7th Dec 09, 2:28 PM
    I don't buy or download music at the moment. I mainly listen at the computer so I just use Spotify, the ads are few enough that they don't bother me.

    If I was wanting to download I wouldn't do it illegally. I'd buy downloads rather than CDs if the price was quite a bit less, decent quality and no drm. I do like owning the CD though, as then I can encode it to a lossless format.
    Last edited by f300; 07-12-2009 at 2:31 PM.
    • Flickering Ember
    • By Flickering Ember 8th Dec 09, 5:26 AM
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    • 8th Dec 09, 5:26 AM
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    • 8th Dec 09, 5:26 AM
    E. I don't download. I stream via www.blip.fm when I'm using music as background sound sometimes but if I want to "own" music, I buy CDs. I collect CDs and love the whole package; the sleevenotes, artwork, seeing them on my shelves, etc.
    Flickering Embers grow higher and higher...I need a break and I wanna be a paperback writer!
    • minerva_windsong
    • By minerva_windsong 8th Dec 09, 8:30 AM
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    • 8th Dec 09, 8:30 AM
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    • 8th Dec 09, 8:30 AM
    B. I pay 15 a month to Napster to download as many songs as I like, and anything that I can't get from there - which admittedly happens very very occasionally, to the extent that I actually can't remember the last time I did it - I download via Limewire.

    The reason I don't buy CDs is because I tend to get lots of music at once and the charge from Napster evens out once you get more than 20 songs.
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    • glossyhair
    • By glossyhair 8th Dec 09, 11:14 AM
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    • 8th Dec 09, 11:14 AM
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    • 8th Dec 09, 11:14 AM
    I voted B

    I go the legal route 99.9% of the time. The only exception is where the track or album I am looking for is actually not available to purchase anywhere. Then I would be looking at more "creative" ways to get hold of it :confused:
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    • esuhl
    • By esuhl 8th Dec 09, 11:23 AM
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    • 8th Dec 09, 11:23 AM
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    • 8th Dec 09, 11:23 AM
    I rarely download music online since lossy compression sounds awful. I always buy CDs and, if I'm out of the house, I'll listen to variable bit-rate WMV files, which sound better than MP3s (to my ears).

    The only compressed music that I've paid for was when I discovered a few albums that I *HAD* to have, and found that they were about 2.50 for MP3s or 15 for the CD. I bought the MP3s to tide me over, but will get the CDs as soon as I find somewhere selling them for 8-ish or less.

    I love online streaming like Spotify and Pandora, but since the audio quality is lower than most MP3s, I only really use them to discover new music...

    Tunechecker is a great idea, though - I'm sure it will be very popular.
    • esuhl
    • By esuhl 8th Dec 09, 11:35 AM
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    esuhl
    I go the legal route 99.9% of the time. The only exception is where the track or album I am looking for is actually not available to purchase anywhere. Then I would be looking at more "creative" ways to get hold of it :confused:
    Originally posted by glossyhair
    Talking of which... I don't suppose anyone would know where I can get a CD of "Trample the Eagle and the Dragon and the Bear" by Alpha and Omega? EDIT: Don't worry - I found a FLAC copy on Mindawn.

    Apparently it was released in 2005, but has already gone out of production. I suppose that's the one advantage of electronically distributed media - no huge production fees to keep pressing discs :-(
    Last edited by esuhl; 10-12-2009 at 3:00 PM.
    • Jennifer_Jane
    • By Jennifer_Jane 8th Dec 09, 4:00 PM
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    On the Daily Mail Online site just now:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1234101/New-music-download-price-checker-threatens-unseat-pricey-iTunes.html

    Jen

    PS - of course I'm legal! Download legally or via purchased CD.
    • esuhl
    • By esuhl 8th Dec 09, 4:36 PM
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    PS - of course I'm legal! Download legally or via purchased CD.
    Originally posted by Jennifer_Jane
    Errr... isn't it still illegal to rip your own CDs?

    According to Wikipedia, "In the United Kingdom, making a private copy of copyrighted media without the copyright owner's consent is illegal: this includes ripping music from a CD to a computer or digital music player."
    • Earl Purple
    • By Earl Purple 8th Dec 09, 7:56 PM
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    If you count certain Russian based sites as illegal then probably B because I do use them too.
  • Davey2009
    Im legal, its Spotify or WE7 anything I really like Id buy the cd though
  • chaddy7604
    Talking of which... I don't suppose anyone would know where I can get a CD of "Trample the Eagle and the Dragon and the Bear" by Alpha and Omega?

    Apparently it was released in 2005, but has already gone out of production. I suppose that's the one advantage of electronically distributed media - no huge production fees to keep pressing discs :-(
    Originally posted by esuhl
    There you go Amazon UK ranging from 24 to 200

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B0007LNHUM/ref=dp_olp_0?ie=UTF8&qid=1260314491&sr=8-2&condition=all
  • rickbonar
    The question should be do you pay for mp3 downloads as the law on what is and what isn't legal is not clear.

    File share sites such as e donkey, emule, Imesh, Limewire, kazaa etc all provide tracks free of charge and I've have these with no problems since 1999.
    All I believe perfectly legally.
  • aaranj
    I download the majority of my music legally but when music sites refuse to let me pay for a song because "it is not yet available in your country", then I will look into "other means".
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  • cit_k
    Errr... isn't it still illegal to rip your own CDs?

    According to Wikipedia, "In the United Kingdom, making a private copy of copyrighted media without the copyright owner's consent is illegal: this includes ripping music from a CD to a computer or digital music player."
    Originally posted by esuhl
    as far as I know it is illegal yes...

    17 Infringement of copyright by copying

    (1) The copying of the work is an act restricted by the copyright in every description of copyright work; and references in this Part to copying and copies shall be construed as follows.
    (2) Copying in relation to a literary, dramatic, musical or artistic work means reproducing the work in any material form.
    This includes storing the work in any medium by electronic means.
    source

    technically, that would probably also mean any player that buffers a cd was infringing copyright, like those CD players that buffer x number of seconds so it does not skip when you are jogging....
  • cit_k
    The question should be do you pay for mp3 downloads as the law on what is and what isn't legal is not clear.

    File share sites such as e donkey, emule, Imesh, Limewire, kazaa etc all provide tracks free of charge and I've have these with no problems since 1999.
    All I believe perfectly legally.
    Originally posted by rickbonar
    donkey, emule etc are perfectly legal bits of software, but a lot of the files downloaded using them are not legal at all. Most of it is illegal.... and can be traced back to the downloader if they are unlucky.
    Last edited by cit_k; 09-12-2009 at 5:43 AM.
  • SPLEEN
    free music
    There's endless free tracks on soundcloud to be downloaded.

    Is some shameless self promotion i use the example here of my own music..

    soundcloud.com/mr-spleen/miracle-vocal-mix

    You get the idea though. Just search for whoever you're interested in on there and chances are you'll find some free tracks. Musicians/producers are doing this a lot just to promote their music.
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