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Job offer contingent on background checks??

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So I have the signed employment contract but as stated in the terms it says offer is contingent to passing the background checks, conducted by a third party company.
Now, reading online people have strongly advised to not hand in the notice until you know 100% you have that job and passed all those background checks. People have been left jobless and offers were withdrawn as a result of third party company's error on their background checks. But, how does one wait until all checks are passed if the background check also includes obtaining a reference from the current employer? And with the current employer not knowing you are looking for a job elsewhere?
I have a provisional start date and there will be a group of us starting together so waiting and pushing back the date does not seem like an option. It also stated if the background checks take too long then they have the right to withdraw the offer. I am very eager to work at the new company but I do not want to be left jobless. Any advice?
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  • Lil306Lil306 Forumite
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    Until they've offered you a job, consider yourself expendable regardless. I'd let them do their checks first then hand in your notice. End of the day even if your employer knows as long as their happy you get the job, and if they ask your employer then it could raise questions anyway. 

    BTW - The employer can't fire you just because you're looking for another job. Legally they would be in a world of trouble if taken to court because of them firing you for that reason. Although they'd probably try to get you for something else
  • MarconMarcon Forumite
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    Lil306 said:
    Until they've offered you a job, consider yourself expendable regardless. I'd let them do their checks first then hand in your notice. End of the day even if your employer knows as long as their happy you get the job, and if they ask your employer then it could raise questions anyway. 

    BTW - The employer can't fire you just because you're looking for another job. Legally they would be in a world of trouble if taken to court because of them firing you for that reason. Although they'd probably try to get you for something else
    Even when you've been offered the job, remember that you are completely expendable regardless. Nobody has job security these days, although there's a bit more certainty once you've worked for an employer for at least two years.

    As for firing you because you're looking for another job - if you've been there under two years, they can generally fire you for any or no reason, provided it is not unlawful (e.g. unlawful discrimination). Even if you've been there for at least two years, they can still fire you for that reason, but they'd simply dress it up as something else. Covid-19, for example.
  • A_LertA_Lert Forumite
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    If you want to be able to start the new job on the start date, you're going to have to give your current employer notice accordingly. If the offer is subsequently withdrawn, all you can do is ask your current employer if they will accept you withdrawing your resignation.
    To be fair, even with an unconditional offer your new employer could still dismiss you on your first day with only 1 week's notice or pay in lieu.
  • DoshwasterDoshwaster Forumite
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    There are also many different types of "background check". Some are just a confirmation of identity and a criminal record check while others go much deeper depending on the nature of the business.  A basic check should be done in 24 hours but if they want to follow-up on references then it could take a lot longer.
  • keepcalmandstayoutofdebtkeepcalmandstayoutofdebt Forumite
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    It all does depend on who you currently work for and their views.
    Some bosses would rather you say (as much as it's pretty alien to me) at the point of applying to another job.
    I've known people to avoid back ground checks (low level insurance call centre) until they have started and then ran with the risk of dismissal for not completing. But they were unemployed before commencing.
    Back ground checking really isn't so shady.
    Yes they might immediately recruit a replacement but that's not guaranteed to work out how they hope.


  • TELLIT01TELLIT01 Forumite
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    If there is nothing which could come back to haunt you from the background checks you may feel confident enough to hand in your notice, but that is a potential risk.  Checks may take longer than expected, particularly in the current climate, and you might end up jobless until the checks are complete.  Safer to wait until the checks are complete.
  • Lurker1Lurker1 Forumite
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    Lil306 said:
    Until they've offered you a job, consider yourself expendable regardless. I'd let them do their checks first then hand in your notice. End of the day even if your employer knows as long as their happy you get the job, and if they ask your employer then it could raise questions anyway. 

    BTW - The employer can't fire you just because you're looking for another job. Legally they would be in a world of trouble if taken to court because of them firing you for that reason. Although they'd probably try to get you for something else

    They emailed to say they will only contact once all the checks are completed, which would mean including my current employer for a reference. Yeah. I feel it would look really bad if HR contacted my manager first to tell him they got a reference request from me and questioned him about it. It is just so hard to bring up that I have a job offer but I do not know until the bg checks are done, I do not think my current employer would like to hear that.
  • Lil306Lil306 Forumite
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    Marcon said:
    Lil306 said:
    Until they've offered you a job, consider yourself expendable regardless. I'd let them do their checks first then hand in your notice. End of the day even if your employer knows as long as their happy you get the job, and if they ask your employer then it could raise questions anyway. 

    BTW - The employer can't fire you just because you're looking for another job. Legally they would be in a world of trouble if taken to court because of them firing you for that reason. Although they'd probably try to get you for something else
    Even when you've been offered the job, remember that you are completely expendable regardless. Nobody has job security these days, although there's a bit more certainty once you've worked for an employer for at least two years.

    As for firing you because you're looking for another job - if you've been there under two years, they can generally fire you for any or no reason, provided it is not unlawful (e.g. unlawful discrimination). Even if you've been there for at least two years, they can still fire you for that reason, but they'd simply dress it up as something else. Covid-19, for example.
    Yep, if a company wants to get rid of you they will, even if it means some !!!!!! made up reason. 
    I don't consider any employer safe to work for. I don't trust any, it's all about money to them end of the day so I know I'm expendable
  • Lurker1Lurker1 Forumite
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    Marcon said:
    Lil306 said:
    Until they've offered you a job, consider yourself expendable regardless. I'd let them do their checks first then hand in your notice. End of the day even if your employer knows as long as their happy you get the job, and if they ask your employer then it could raise questions anyway. 

    BTW - The employer can't fire you just because you're looking for another job. Legally they would be in a world of trouble if taken to court because of them firing you for that reason. Although they'd probably try to get you for something else
    Even when you've been offered the job, remember that you are completely expendable regardless. Nobody has job security these days, although there's a bit more certainty once you've worked for an employer for at least two years.

    As for firing you because you're looking for another job - if you've been there under two years, they can generally fire you for any or no reason, provided it is not unlawful (e.g. unlawful discrimination). Even if you've been there for at least two years, they can still fire you for that reason, but they'd simply dress it up as something else. Covid-19, for example.
    I did not know about that. I thought once probation period ends then you are safe. I did not know it was two years! I will need to try and read up more about this.
  • Lurker1Lurker1 Forumite
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    There are also many different types of "background check". Some are just a confirmation of identity and a criminal record check while others go much deeper depending on the nature of the business.  A basic check should be done in 24 hours but if they want to follow-up on references then it could take a lot longer.
    I think my checks will be more in depth and rigorious because of the nature of the organisation. Looking online it seems to be that checks can be completed in a matter of days to even more than a month :(
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