Private land parking fine

Lioness007 · 8 September 2014 at 5:20PM

Hello,

I have had a lovely parking fine notice from Parking Eye. And I want to know if I can appeal or if it's too late. A brief history of events without dates.

Got the fine, took time to receive.

Spoke to company to ask them to put on hold as I had only just received the letter (as I don't live at address all the time, am away in Europe a lot and landlady didn't pass on letter quickly) they gave me 14 days.

Appeal sent.

Next letter I have been forwarded from landlady is just demanding payment, they said (Parking Eye) that they sent one on previously but we didn't receive this. I spoke to them recently and they have suggested that I appeal to them to send out another letter with a verification code so I can appeal.

Spoke to POPLA and they have said that if the reply to the appeal was issued previously and I am now outside the 28 days from receipt of appeal I have a cat in hell's chance of getting it quashed.

Interestingly the original fine doesn't state what I did wrong, the vehicle was parked in a private car park, where you would think that would be OK, but the signs giving instruction were very badly placed one facing the exit (?!) very unclear, and no ticket machines around.

My question is, are there definitely timescales for appeal, if it is outside of appeal letter reply they said they sent am I stuffed?

Should I pay? Bearing in mind it's not my address and I work all over Europe and am not in the UK for inordinate amounts of time. I don't want any bad debts registered against her address, it's too risky and not right.

Many thanks in anticipation of all your worldly knowledge and no doubt costly experience!

Coupon-mad · 8 September 2014 at 5:25PM

Should I pay?

Absolutely NOT.

Complain to the BPA using the email address for Steve Clark in post #6 of the newbies thread.

When you sent an appeal did you imply who was driving? Hope not as you have another option if you DIDN'T say who was driving (the keeper at xx address names the driver at yy address...think about it...could even be an address abroad!). DO NOT SAY HERE WHO WAS DRIVING, WE DON'T WANT TO KNOW. STOP, DO NOT SAY IT!

Please edit your first post - too much information about who was driving.

Redx · 8 September 2014 at 5:27PM

its not a fine either, these are INVOICES , sPeCulative iNvoices

fil_cad · 8 September 2014 at 8:29PM

Never give parking eye any cash, make sure the scammers go bankrupt. ASAP

Lioness007 · 9 September 2014 at 11:36AM

Coupon-mad wrote: »

Absolutely NOT.

Complain to the BPA using the email address for Steve Clark in post #6 of the newbies thread.

Thank you Coupon Mad, please can you clarify who BPA is? What that stands for and can you, for a newbie please list the link I should be looking at for the Steve Clark Post, as I am a bit blinkered by all the pages! :eek:

What I am concerned about is that POPLA told me to pay as they said they can issue a county court judgement, is this then false information?

Thank you again.

Coupon-mad · 9 September 2014 at 11:49AM

Sorry I never post links because you will only be able to research this and win if you practise hopping around the forum. Posting links is spoon feeding and I do enough of that by writing out template appeals and POPLA stuff. It may sound harsh but you'll do so much better once you can find your way around this forum, it's an eye opener how easy it is when you know where to click.

The newbies thread is near the top. My signature tells you where to click or you can use the Forum Jump button, bottom right, to get back 'home' to page one where you then see the top threads. They were there all the time when you hit that 'new thread' button and the FAQs should have been read first.

When you read the newbies thread you will see that, yes, PE can and do issue court claims. Hence why you need to think hard about who was driving IF you've not already said.

Lioness007 · 9 September 2014 at 11:55AM

Right, I have read the excellent stickies, or stickys; I need to know if there is a time limit on it as I am beyond the 28 days after their rejection of the appeal and also if I admitted I was driving can I still use the appeal letter as listed by you Coupon Mad ( I just realised you created the appeal letter!)

I don't have a copy of the appeal I sent as I didn't know you had to do a screen shot.

So, can I just copy and paste this letter then and send it off to them, regardless of timings?

Coupon-mad · 9 September 2014 at 12:03PM

If you admitted you were driving you can't now 'name the driver' to reset the clock (in the newbies thread that option is explained and would have got you back to square one - so it a huge shame if you did name the driver). As I said, complain by email to the BPA that you appealed and never received a reply - ask the BPA to investigate whether PE ever did send you a reply with a POPLA code and if not, then they need to send one now that you can use. Mention to the BPA that you are a resident abroad so you would appreciate replies by email from them and from PE.

If you did admit you were driving you could send PE your new address abroad as well. That would stop them from being able to issue a MCOL in due course, as you'd be out of jurisdiction for the British courts unless you are in fact based in England.

Have you got a receipt if this was a retail park?

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5057636

PE cancel when they see a person was a shopper, with proof of purchase over a secret 'floor limit' of £30.

Lioness007 · 9 September 2014 at 12:31PM

Hello again,

That's all fabulous advice once again and quite clear. I don't have a receipt no, not in this case.

I have an update; I actually phoned the hotel that issued the notice and asked them to cancel it and they agreed!

But I have certainly now read a lot and if it happens again I know how more now how to deal with it. There is a lot of knowledge on here which is fab.

Thanks to everyone who replied. Good outcome this time, with a slight twist.

: )

Coupon-mad · 9 September 2014 at 12:37PM

That's good news - part of our advice is always to complain, look:

Successful complaints about private parking tickets - how to get them cancelled!

Your case now joins that sticky thread - I will add a link so people can read about your success. Make sure you get it in writing that it's cancelled - I would email Parking Eye to tell them the Hotel have cancelled it and so to get lost and go swivel:

[EMAIL="enforcement@parkingeye.co.uk"][email protected][/EMAIL]

HTH

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