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ATOS - evidence of the rumours?

edited 30 November -1 at 1:00AM in Disability Money Matters
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edited 30 November -1 at 1:00AM in Disability Money Matters
Now I love a good gossip as muchas the next Daily Mail reader (!), but does anyone have any links to concrete evdience about ATOS being payed to get people off benefits, finding the unfit fit to work and, especially, the ATOS doctors getting bonuses for each disabled person they claim is suddenly as fit as a butcher's dog. I really need something a bit more than just theories and rumours, please its important.
TIA
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  • krisskrosskrisskross
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    I am sure these are simply unsubstantiated rumours.

    Does have a lot of credence among the disgruntled would be claimants though.
  • DX2DX2
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    Good luck with your quest! I doubt for a single minute you are going to find what you are looking for.
    *SIGH*
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    bertiebatbertiebat Forumite
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    edited 6 November 2010 at 3:48PM
    No, I don't think that this could be/is true in such a simplistic way. However after initially dismissing the concerns over ATOS and how the system is not fairly assessing people which I put down to disgruntled claimants, I now do think the system leaves a lot to be desired. Disgruntled claimants are not the only ones concerned over this issue.

    If you have a LOT of spare time on your hands then I can provide you with this. http://www.whywaitforever.com/dwpatos.html

    BTW, I have only skimmed through the site, but if he didn't track down bonuses then I really don't think there can be such a system.
    Just in case you were wondering (some have)..... I'm a woman!
  • OldernotwiserOldernotwiser
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    Send cit_k a pm; he's the ATOS expert (and he loves links)!
  • the_devil_made_me_do_itthe_devil_made_me_do_it Forumite
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    I have heard this & to be honest wouldn't be at all surprised if it was actually true.

    Maybe write to ATOS & ask them directly.
  • KxMxKxMx Forumite
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    Actually, yes. A friend of mine was told by her Job Centre Plus Advisor that MP's were paying ATOS to fail 80% of claimants.

    I know the numbers don't add up but coming from where it did there must be some truth in the matter.
  • dmg24dmg24
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    the_devil_made_me_do_it wrote: »
    I have heard this & to be honest wouldn't be at all surprised if it was actually true.

    Maybe write to ATOS & ask them directly.

    The OP was asking for evidence, not hearsay.
    KxMx wrote: »
    Actually, yes. A friend of mine was told by her Job Centre Plus Advisor that MP's were paying ATOS to fail 80% of claimants.

    I know the numbers don't add up but coming from where it did there must be some truth in the matter.

    MPs do not pay ATOS, the DWP does. Based on the inaccuracy of your post, I assume you have no actual evidence?
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    dmg24 wrote: »
    MPs do not pay ATOS, the DWP does. Based on the inaccuracy of your post, I assume you have no actual evidence?

    Yes but MP's make the rules for DWP to enforce. I am repeating what I was told. If Job Centre staff are telling this to clients then there has to be some small grain of truth, somewhere.
  • dmg24dmg24
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    KxMx wrote: »
    Yes but MP's make the rules for DWP to enforce. I am repeating what I was told. If Job Centre staff are telling this to clients then there has to be some small grain of truth, somewhere.

    Your hearsay has no more weight than me repeating what my mate's mate from down the road and round the corner says. A frontline JCP employee would not have any more access to such information than a member of the general public.
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    HGLTsuperstar wrote: »
    Now I love a good gossip as muchas the next Daily Mail reader (!), but does anyone have any links to concrete evdience about ATOS being payed to get people off benefits, finding the unfit fit to work and, especially, the ATOS doctors getting bonuses for each disabled person they claim is suddenly as fit as a butcher's dog. I really need something a bit more than just theories and rumours, please its important.
    TIA

    purely urban myth ! atos dont make the decision the DWP decision maker does that using the ATOS report and the esa50 form.
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