Agency charging me employer's Nat Ins

edited 30 November -1 at 1:00AM in Cutting Tax
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edited 30 November -1 at 1:00AM in Cutting Tax
Help! I am sure some MSE peeps can help me out here.

I have done some work through an agency who have the pay calculated and paid via a payroll company. My first payslip reads:

Gross £951

less
payroll processing fee £44.18

employers N.I £90.42

£816.40

less

income tax £163.20

employees N.I. £77.70

Net pay paid £575.50

I am quite happy with the income tax - this is correct. The payroll processing fee looks to be a bit underhand but I must accept it - I wish that I could tender for this as I would be happy to do this for £5, but hey-ho what can I do.

What really niggles me is the fact that I have to pay the EMPlOYERS national insurance. Surely this can't be legal - or have I missed something?

Any thoughts or suggestions welcome.

Thanks in advance
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  • SystemSystem Forumite
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    It sounds like the agency are acting as an umbrella company hence you having to pay employers NI as well.
  • terrywterryw Forumite
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    !!!!!! wrote: »
    It sounds like the agency are acting as an umbrella company hence you having to pay employers NI as well.

    Thanks !!!!!!. What on earth is an umbrella company and why do I have to pay the employers n.i.? Forgive my ignorance.

    thanks

    terryw
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  • SystemSystem Forumite
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    A quick description is at http://www.umbrellacompanies.org/umbrella-companies-explained/.

    There is a tax advantage for you as you are not an employee of the agency, I believe that there is also a tax advantage to the agency by acting as one.

    It is standard practice to pay employer NI as an employee of the umbrella company.
  • terrywterryw Forumite
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    Thanks very much indeed for the link explaining umbrella companies. The main advantage is that any "expenses" can be deducted from the gross pay so that income tax is paid on the reduced figure. For myself, and I think for most people, any such saving would be more than negated by the payroll processing fee.

    Unfortunately there is nothing in this link explaining or even mentioning the worker having to pay the Employer's National Insurance.
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  • SystemSystem Forumite
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    http://www.commonwealthcontractors.com/Umbrella_Companies_and_Employers_NI.html is probably the best description. You are treated as freelance and therefore have to cover Employer NI out of your own money.
  • FiddlestickFiddlestick Forumite
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    terryw wrote: »
    Gross £951

    less
    payroll processing fee £44.18

    That's a bit pricey. It's what, 5%?

    There are umbrella companies out there that will do your payroll for a flat fee rather than a percentage.

    It's been a couple years since I last contracted, but when I did I used Green Lantern 35 and I'm pretty sure it was a flat fee :)
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