MARTIN LEWIS Q&A WITH RISHI SUNAK
Chancellor Rishi Sunak joined Martin for a video Q&A to discuss the cost of living support package that was recently announced - you can watch it HERE
5K to invest...

0 Posts
MoneySaving Newbie
Hi everyone,
What can I do with 5K - with a mind to investing... My aim (typically
) is to gain the highest possible return. At the moment the money just sits in an 'instant access savings account'
Thanks in advance.
Nids.
What can I do with 5K - with a mind to investing... My aim (typically

Thanks in advance.
Nids.
0
This discussion has been closed.
Latest MSE News and Guides
Are DNA ancestry tests worth the money?
This Forumite wants your thoughts
Join the MSE Forum discussion
Replies
Highest possible return is the lottery, but risk may be unacceptable.
Lowest return is a current account paying 0.1% -- very safe.
An entire range of risks/possible returns in between. No one can answer your question without an idea of how willing you are to risk losing your money (or part of it) to gain a higher return.
If anything I say makes sense, then do it. If not, don't. Don't blame me or my stars if you do something stupid because I suggested it. I'm responsible for my own stupidity only. You are responsible for yours.
Why, I don't even have five stars anymore! Aren't you glad you aren't responsible for my stupidity?
1. How can i gain max return by not taking any risk (i.e. not willing to lose any money)
2. Or alternatively what can i do if i'm prepared to lose SOME of my money (but no more than say a third)
Cheers
Nids
1. Cash ISA. 4.85% Abbey Postal. Tax free. Maximum investment £3K/year per person (so if married, can put it all in ISAs).
2. Cash ISA fixed rate. Not sure what the best deals are here.
3. Savings. 6% is the highest, but this is taxable. So unless you have a non-taxpaying spouse whose name you could put it in, this is not as good as the ISA.
4. Fixed rate bonds. Ties up your money for 1-3 years.
5. Premium bonds. No risk of losing your money, but there is the risk of not getting any return at all. Also the chance of getting the big one.
6. NS&I GEBs. Martin's article:
http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/cgi-bin/viewnews.cgi?newsid1081137796,10029,
(Requires locking up your money for five years.)
<edit: that link doesn't work, you'll have to copy and paste it into your browser address. Wish someone would explain to me why that happens, and how to fix it. Makes me feel stupid every time -- maybe that's not a bad thing. ::)>
<edit: hyperlink fixed, cheers to the person who pm'ed me on how to do this. So simple I feel stupider than before
Others will probably have other suggestions as to safe places to put your money, and I'll leave the risky ones to someone else as well.
Suggestion: You could put the third you are willing to lose on the lottery and the rest in one of the safe options above. ;D ;D (That is NOT a recommendation, I never gamble myself).
If anything I say makes sense, then do it. If not, don't. Don't blame me or my stars if you do something stupid because I suggested it. I'm responsible for my own stupidity only. You are responsible for yours.
Why, I don't even have five stars anymore! Aren't you glad you aren't responsible for my stupidity?
it gets even more complicated.
You say you are prepared to risk a third.
Does that mean you are prepared to take a third of your money and put it into an investment where you COULD lose the lot?
A FTSE100 tracker is not likely to lose more than 1/3, and could do quite well. FTSE250 or all shares might carry a slightly higher risk (and potentially higher gains).
You could also track the US market, although risk is higher because of potential currency fluctuations. Based on past history, the US$ is low compared to the pound right now, so if you bought in now presumably currency fluctuations might work for you rather than against you -- although past history on currency rates is no guarantee of the future.
For a little more risk, and again potentially higher returns, you could invest in Japan.
A step further out (and nearer the edge) is to invest in a Far Eastern fund -- investing in places like China, Korea, Singapore, Indonesia. You could make a killing here -- or you could end up dead meat yourself. This is probably beyond the 1/3 risk threshold -- you could easily lose 1/2 or more of your money investing here. And likewise you could double your money quickly.
You could invest in Russia if you really feel adventurous. Lots of money to be made here -- unless Putin decides he doesn't like the people running the companies you invested in, throws them in prison, and slaps creative taxes on the companies. The key is to get out at the right time and buy an English football club.
You could put half of your money in a mini cash ISA (safe) and half in a mini shares ISA in one of the adventurous places. Or you could put it all in a maxi shares ISA in one of the "safer" places -- there is plenty of risk in shares, but you are not likely, IMO, to lose more than 1/3 in an index tracker in the UK or US markets.
If anything I say makes sense, then do it. If not, don't. Don't blame me or my stars if you do something stupid because I suggested it. I'm responsible for my own stupidity only. You are responsible for yours.
Why, I don't even have five stars anymore! Aren't you glad you aren't responsible for my stupidity?
Its all about matching it with your circumstances.
I've decided to put 3K away in an abbey postal Cash ISA and the remainig 2K into a shares ISA - not sure which/ what etc yet - any recommendations will be much appreciated.
Thanx.
It is possible to do this in the same tax year. Max 3K in a cash ISA, and max 3K in a shares ISA. Both don't have to be with the same provider, so shop around for the best deals.
Darryl.