PCN - 32 d Failing to proceed in the direction shown by the arrow on a blue sign

fixturesfittings1987

Hi all,

I have received a PCN - 32 d Failing to proceed in the direction shown by the arrow on a blue sign.

It was at a busy four way junction in south east London (with a yellow junction box, although that is not relevant). I assumed I was "guilty as charged" however, having googled it, the AI has come back and said I can challenge it for the following reasons:

1) The PCN only states the location as the road I turned left from It says that the PCN should specify the three roads leading into the junction and the main road should be the one I turned into - which created the offence - not the one out of which I turned (ie the one stated on the PCN).
2) The PCN evidence portal only shows four still images. However Google AI states they should have also posted a video and that without this the PCN becomes invalid.
3) Although the PCN arrived within the 14-day period, it only arrive with two days to spare and google says this is "Procedural Defect" as it severely truncated the time available to me to research my defence.

Do you think this is a strong enough case to appeal and what are the prospects of winning - any similar case studies would be appreciated.

​​​​​​​Many thanks in advance!

Woodstok2000

My opinion, The AI is talking rubbish.

You are best posting this on the FTLA forums, this board specialises in private parking disputes.

fixturesfittings1987

Thanks, what is FTLA and where can I find it - do you have a link please?

Le_Kirk

Since we concentrate on parking charge notices from unregulated private parking companies, you would be better off taking this over to our friends on https://ftla.uk (the forum started to replace Pepipoo), as they are the experts on council and police issues.
You will need register before reading the FAQs, then posting both sides of your PCN with your query.
Council
https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/
Police
https://www.ftla.uk/speeding-and-other-criminal-offences/
Private
https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/

fixturesfittings1987

Ok thank you

HHarry

I’d question the AI on point 3 alone. If it turns up in 14 days it’s compliant, there is no defect. (And a quick search suggests that Councils generally have 28 days to issue a traffic PCN, so it’s well within time). Plus you have 28 days to respond, again plenty of time to ‘research your defence’

Point 2, ref video evidence has cropped up before, where people have been caught by speed camera vans and provided with poor photo’s that don’t really proove the offence. The response is generally that the primary purpose of those photo’s is to identify the driver, and that video evidence of the offence would be submitted, if available, if needed in court.