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MSE News: Forcing banks to refund some scam victims 'cut payment fraud by £73 million' -

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The number of bank transfer scams has fallen after banks were forced to start refunding some victims, an independent review has found. But the "inconsistent implementation" of these mandatory reimbursement rules means your likelihood of getting your money back can depend on who you bank with – which the regulator says it will look to fix through a new consultation…

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  • dumpster_fire2025
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    Where is the evidence that refunding victims (and effectively insulating them from their mistakes) caused the reduction in payment fraud rather than the two being entirely unrelated (and perhaps at the same time an increase in messaging from banks about fraud)?

  • flaneurs_lobster
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    I suspect (and therefore agree that the reason for the reduction is not clear) that putting the banks on the hook for reimbursement has made them tighten their procedures/lower the tolerances and as a consequence increased (at least anecdotally) the number of 'blocked' transactions.

  • dumpster_fire2025
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    Which isn't the same as saying that "Forcing banks to refund victims cut bank fraud."

    As I said, there has been an increase in messaging from banks, presumably as it is cheaper than refunding which I suspect is what has caused this so the headline (and article) seem to be quite misleading. The source from what I can tell doesn't make this claim so is not to blame.

  • Ergates
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    I wonder what has happened to the rate at which people complain that their bank blocked a legitimate transaction.

  • LightFlare
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    Surely if people are aware that the bank will refund any fraudulent transactions then that might lead to people being less aware and astute with their banking details etc

    Maybe if the banks stopped refunding (or reduced the circumstances under which they will) then this might cause customers to be a bit more savvy and careful

    All this does is increase costs to the majority of customers

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