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Car back to lease tomorrow - Flat Tyre - Legal or illegal to foam it?

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  • matt_drummer
    matt_drummer Posts: 2,347 Forumite
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    edited 15 January at 10:49AM
    Not illegal.

    Probably immoral?

    Would you like it done to you?

    Sending another human being on their way without telling them about the temporary and restrictive tyre repair that could put them in danger?

    Just for money.

    The tyre is damaged in a place that is too dangerous to repair isn't it?

  • Emmia
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    edited 15 January at 11:26AM
    OP would you drive 100miles normally i.e. on motorways at speed willingly on the repaired tyre?

    How would you feel if you got a car with this type of repair, didn't know, drove at motorway speed and had an accident leaving you with serious, possibility life changing injuries (or dead)?
  • reeceg353
    reeceg353 Posts: 66 Forumite
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    Thank you all for your comments, much appreciated 

    despite thinking I can probably get away with it, I’ll be a decent human and own it happened on my watch, with gritted teeth. 

    It’s the right thing to do 
  • flaneurs_lobster
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    reeceg353 said:
    Thank you all for your comments, much appreciated 

    despite thinking I can probably get away with it, I’ll be a decent human and own it happened on my watch, with gritted teeth. 

    It’s the right thing to do 
    Even if just for your own peace of mind, I think that's the right thing to do. 

    Good choice.
  • born_again
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    reeceg353 said:
    I think with that argument, about being back charged - they will definitely see it’s been sealed when they take the tyre off, agreed, however my argument would be, “I didn’t do that”

    I think (and correct me if I’m wrong) legally that it’s their responsibility once it’s off my drive (anything could happen, and how can they prove otherwise)

    Yeah I mean, the limit on the foam says 60mph max, which yeah is under motorway speed, there is that. 
    Why would they take the tyre off?
    Car will be going from being picked up to auction house.
    Life in the slow lane
  • flaneurs_lobster
    flaneurs_lobster Posts: 10,522 Forumite
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    reeceg353 said:
    I think with that argument, about being back charged - they will definitely see it’s been sealed when they take the tyre off, agreed, however my argument would be, “I didn’t do that”

    I think (and correct me if I’m wrong) legally that it’s their responsibility once it’s off my drive (anything could happen, and how can they prove otherwise)

    Yeah I mean, the limit on the foam says 60mph max, which yeah is under motorway speed, there is that. 
    Why would they take the tyre off?
    Car will be going from being picked up to auction house.
    Sorry to take this to the extremes.

    When they've retrieved the wreckage from the motorway central reservation they will want to investigate the cause of the crash.....
  • born_again
    born_again Posts: 24,114 Forumite
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    reeceg353 said:
    I think with that argument, about being back charged - they will definitely see it’s been sealed when they take the tyre off, agreed, however my argument would be, “I didn’t do that”

    I think (and correct me if I’m wrong) legally that it’s their responsibility once it’s off my drive (anything could happen, and how can they prove otherwise)

    Yeah I mean, the limit on the foam says 60mph max, which yeah is under motorway speed, there is that. 
    Why would they take the tyre off?
    Car will be going from being picked up to auction house.
    Sorry to take this to the extremes.

    When they've retrieved the wreckage from the motorway central reservation they will want to investigate the cause of the crash.....
    Or if nothing happens??
    Life in the slow lane
  • paul_c123
    paul_c123 Posts: 996 Forumite
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    reeceg353 said:
    I think with that argument, about being back charged - they will definitely see it’s been sealed when they take the tyre off, agreed, however my argument would be, “I didn’t do that”

    I think (and correct me if I’m wrong) legally that it’s their responsibility once it’s off my drive (anything could happen, and how can they prove otherwise)

    Yeah I mean, the limit on the foam says 60mph max, which yeah is under motorway speed, there is that. 
    Why would they take the tyre off?
    Car will be going from being picked up to auction house.
    Sorry to take this to the extremes.

    When they've retrieved the wreckage from the motorway central reservation they will want to investigate the cause of the crash.....
    Still 100% driver fault though.
  • Emmia
    Emmia Posts: 7,306 Forumite
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    reeceg353 said:
    I think with that argument, about being back charged - they will definitely see it’s been sealed when they take the tyre off, agreed, however my argument would be, “I didn’t do that”

    I think (and correct me if I’m wrong) legally that it’s their responsibility once it’s off my drive (anything could happen, and how can they prove otherwise)

    Yeah I mean, the limit on the foam says 60mph max, which yeah is under motorway speed, there is that. 
    Why would they take the tyre off?
    Car will be going from being picked up to auction house.
    Sorry to take this to the extremes.

    When they've retrieved the wreckage from the motorway central reservation they will want to investigate the cause of the crash.....
    Or if nothing happens??
    The problem is that if it isn't declared, the car may go straight to the auction and an unsuspecting buyer purchases it, drives it "normally" and comes a cropper as a result - and it may not happen immediately, it could be a month or so later.

    If the OP was selling the car to a friend or an acquaintance would they point out the issue which is one of safety? Does it matter that the person who has the car next is probably not an acquaintance of the OP - I'd argue it doesn't... The OP should do the right thing and replace the tyre, or declare it's full of sealant goo.
  • MyRealNameToo
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    Emmia said:
    reeceg353 said:
    I think with that argument, about being back charged - they will definitely see it’s been sealed when they take the tyre off, agreed, however my argument would be, “I didn’t do that”

    I think (and correct me if I’m wrong) legally that it’s their responsibility once it’s off my drive (anything could happen, and how can they prove otherwise)

    Yeah I mean, the limit on the foam says 60mph max, which yeah is under motorway speed, there is that. 
    Why would they take the tyre off?
    Car will be going from being picked up to auction house.
    Sorry to take this to the extremes.

    When they've retrieved the wreckage from the motorway central reservation they will want to investigate the cause of the crash.....
    Or if nothing happens??
    The problem is that if it isn't declared, the car may go straight to the auction and an unsuspecting buyer purchases it, drives it "normally" and comes a cropper as a result - and it may not happen immediately, it could be a month or so later.
    Even if it is mentioned there are no guarantees the finance company will replace it nor tell the auctioneers of the issue. These types of auctions are predominately aimed as a B2B arrangement and "sold as seen". The OP would however have protected themselves by declaring it 
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