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maybe final fine details won't be as clear cut as we'd wish but on reading this it looks good.
edit: iv'e removed the link to the story as "this is money" appears to have pulled the article. probably waiting for tomorrow when it appears change will happen.
oh, my next post is post 5k. better make it a good one.
edit: iv'e removed the link to the story as "this is money" appears to have pulled the article. probably waiting for tomorrow when it appears change will happen.
oh, my next post is post 5k. better make it a good one.

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Those higher volume private sellers that have been forced on to eBay business accounts are going to be gutted!0
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as i said in the OP, need to wait on the "fine details", more of us may be forced to business if there turns out to be a selling threshold, either quantity or value related. not quite nailed on yet that its the perfect scenario.
oh, and thats my 5k post, not quite as spectacular as i hoped.0 -
I'm a private seller, just getting rid of unwanted personal items.
Not having to pay fees on footwear and jewellery is good news for me.
I was considering moving to Vinted because of eBay seller fees.
This isn't good news though:Ebay said it had introduced other changes to its site, including AI-generated descriptions and photo-enhancing tools.I really don't want to read flowery, verbose rambling that gives me no idea of the condition of an item I might be interested in.
Like this:These stunning women's shoes are a must-have for any fashion-forward individual.Lightweight, woman's luxury leather sneaker . Handcrafted in a shimmery Italian leather and black leather trim combination.What a load of useless tosh!6 -
noitsnotme said:Those higher volume private sellers that have been forced on to eBay business accounts are going to be gutted!
Years ago I was selling something made from components intended for a different purpose, the only competition was a couple of private sellers, looking now one of the main private sellers still has their listing up with 3k sales from that single listing.
I know there is a lot of talk about tax but you never know if someone is declaring their income regardless of the type of account so putting that aside, I would be pretty annoyed at paying out a monthly fee for a shop or 36p per listing + nearly 15% FVF (once the VAT is added) compared to someone paying zero.
It's odd they are reducing 1000 down to 300 whilst effectively allowing someone to gain an endless number of sales from those 300 listings.
My view has always been that eBay wants the money so they'd rather keep "private" sellers than enforce the rules and risk losing them (in fact that applies to pretty much all their rules!) so it will be interesting to see if/how that changes if FVFs are scrapped and whether any features are rolled back from private accounts.
Not sure if that article has been pulled already (maybe it was a day early?) but the quote in it from eBay did talk about the diverse number of products on eBay which is something a little unique to eBay, Amazon has never made it easy to sell 2nd hand items and clearly show their condition + over the last few years Amazon does appear to have more and more people selling the same tat from China via FBA under different "brands" when in fact it's all the same stuff, with eBay never meeting Amazon in terms of shifting certain products, not wanting to lose the genuine private sellers making their marketplace somewhat unique does seem to make sense.In the game of chess you can never let your adversary see your pieces0 -
I can’t get the link to show the eBay bit, perhaps as the_lunatic says it has been pulled. I’ll be interested to see any new developments though and if this does apply to categories that Vinted allow, does rather go along with the theory that Vinted is ‘just’ high profile enough to niggle at eBay- in very limited categories.Everytime a new competitor to eBay is mentioned on here most of the long term sellers, myself included look for the ‘hook’ that one thing that makes them stand out and not just an off the shelf hobby site. For those who don’t know the Vinted model it is an interesting one. At the moment no business sellers at all are allowed, although there are of course thousands of them, sellers pay no fees at all and buyers have very little protection. The selling categories are very limited and sellers are only supposed to list against those very limited categories, again though never has so many rules been broken by so many people. Interestingly those categories are mainly clothes and accessories. EBay have already targeted clothes- now jewellery and accessories (possibly).Lunatic also makes a very good point about MVLs, whilst they won’t get any FVF discounts as they are specifically disallowed under the offer terms they usually only count as 1 listing, so 100 identical items listed as a private seller on an MVL will only be 1 of the 300 listings used. I have always thought that a quick win for eBay would have been to remove the option of MVL and variation listings for private sellers, who shouldn’t need them.I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the eBay, Auctions, Car Boot & Jumble Sales, Boost Your Income, Praise, Vents & Warnings, Overseas Holidays & Travel Planning , UK Holidays, Days Out & Entertainments boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know.. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com.All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.1
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pfpf said:as i said in the OP, need to wait on the "fine details", more of us may be forced to business if there turns out to be a selling threshold, either quantity or value related. not quite nailed on yet that its the perfect scenario.
oh, and thats my 5k post, not quite as spectacular as i hoped.
For those it’s already happened to prior to this announcement, I can’t see a way back to the free private selling for them. Would closing their business account and opening a new private one work? Who knows 🤷♂️0 -
soolin said:I can’t get the link to show the eBay bit, perhaps as the_lunatic says it has been pulled. I’ll be interested to see any new developments though and if this does apply to categories that Vinted allow, does rather go along with the theory that Vinted is ‘just’ high profile enough to niggle at eBay- in very limited categories.
*edit - MSN also running it - https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/ebay-is-cutting-selling-fees-for-nearly-all-categories-how-does-it-compare-to-vinted-and-depop/ar-AA1rqKPy#:~:text=It%20previously%20charged%20a%2010,payment%20processing%20fee%2C%20plus%2030p.3 -
noitsnotme said:soolin said:I can’t get the link to show the eBay bit, perhaps as the_lunatic says it has been pulled. I’ll be interested to see any new developments though and if this does apply to categories that Vinted allow, does rather go along with the theory that Vinted is ‘just’ high profile enough to niggle at eBay- in very limited categories.
*edit - MSN also running it - https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/ebay-is-cutting-selling-fees-for-nearly-all-categories-how-does-it-compare-to-vinted-and-depop/ar-AA1rqKPy#:~:text=It%20previously%20charged%20a%2010,payment%20processing%20fee%2C%20plus%2030p.An interesting point has been raised elsewhere that I think has some merit, although as usual it’s just a case of wait and see. They suggest that the 300 listings for a private seller coming in from tomorrow will work in conjunction with this free to sell, so it is possibly going to be ‘free to sell up to 300 listings a month’. EBay HQ are in the US so it is likely to be that any announcement will be officially made (hopefully) only when they are all awake and operating from the 1st October.I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the eBay, Auctions, Car Boot & Jumble Sales, Boost Your Income, Praise, Vents & Warnings, Overseas Holidays & Travel Planning , UK Holidays, Days Out & Entertainments boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know.. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com.All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.0 -
soolin said:They suggest that the 300 listings for a private seller coming in from tomorrow will work in conjunction with this free to sell, so it is possibly going to be ‘free to sell up to 300 listings a month’.It does mention paying the 35p per listing over 300, I know you had the free to sell promotion towards the start of this year, IIRC there wasn't any limit on that listings wise but it did only apply to listings for a single QTY?soolin said:point about MVLs, whilst they won’t get any FVF discounts as they are specifically disallowed under the offer termsIn the game of chess you can never let your adversary see your pieces0
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soolin said:They suggest that the 300 listings for a private seller coming in from tomorrow will work in conjunction with this free to sell, so it is possibly going to be ‘free to sell up to 300 listings a month’.It does mention paying the 35p per listing over 300, I know you had the free to sell promotion towards the start of this year, IIRC there wasn't any limit on that listings wise but it did only apply to listings for a single QTY?soolin said:point about MVLs, whilst they won’t get any FVF discounts as they are specifically disallowed under the offer termsI’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the eBay, Auctions, Car Boot & Jumble Sales, Boost Your Income, Praise, Vents & Warnings, Overseas Holidays & Travel Planning , UK Holidays, Days Out & Entertainments boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know.. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com.All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.0
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