UKPC LOC

rinovesp233

Have recieved this letter after some fighting (did not come across this beforehand, lesson learned!) what would be my steps for proving a defence? The original defence is where the carpark regulations apply is not clearly stated, the 'out of hours' hours are in smallprint (what they tried to get me for) and are not well lit at all (you'd need to use a phone torch to read them!) and this was dismissed, I requested their supposed evidence and their site stopped working (which I was able to prove) and then they passed it straight on to a debt recovery company (DRP/CST) without giving me a reasonable chance go to to POPLA! I fought with them too for a while (again, I didn't know about the site so don't point out this was a bad idea, I learned that myself considering how many GDPR regulations they break on a daily basis) 

I then recieved information from DRP that UKPC had made them aware the fine was cancelled, and then I received an LOC. What would be the next steps after filing that I intend to defend myself? Making the defence? Does anyone have any suggestions?

rinovesp233

Update - I read the letter again whilst following the guide and there is no claim number nor pack password, so I am unable to actually fight this at all or actually respond. Should I let them know that these details are missing? 

Umkomaas

Who has sent you this 'LOC'?

Fruitcake

It is not a fine.

Plan A is always a complaint to the landowner and your MP, and it is never too late to do so.

There won't be a claim number or password on a Letter of/before Claim, only on the claim form itself.

Who sent the LoC. Show us a redacted image if you wish, but there is a guide to court written by bargepole in the second post of the NEWBIES, and a 95% written defence template in another sticky Announcement, so you should be following that.

rinovesp233

Umkomaas said:

Who has sent you this 'LOC'?

UKPC themselves, I will post a redacted image 1 sec.

rinovesp233

Here is the redacted image

rinovesp233

Fruitcake said:

It is not a fine.

Plan A is always a complaint to the landowner and your MP, and it is never too late to do so.

There won't be a claim number or password on a Letter of/before Claim, only on the claim form itself.

Who sent the LoC. Show us a redacted image if you wish, but there is a guide to court written by bargepole in the second post of the NEWBIES, and a 95% written defence template in another sticky Announcement, so you should be following that.

Hi, the place this occured was out of my town, should I still make a complaint to my MP? No idea who the landowner is.

Umkomaas

Respond robustly to UKPC following the LBC/LOC guidance in the NEWBIES FAQ Announcement, second post.  Decide if you want to get things underway asap, or kick the can down the road by delaying your response until just before their 30-day deadline, then in your response require them to put the case on hold for a further 30 days while you seek 'debt advice' (use those words) as per the PAP.  

There is no tactical advantage in delaying this, but if you do, you'll need to be aware of any holidays you might have booked which might get in the way of you dealing with this with delay dates and deadlines. 

rinovesp233

Umkomaas said:

Respond robustly to UKPC following the LBC/LOC guidance in the NEWBIES FAQ Announcement, second post.  Decide if you want to get things underway asap, or kick the can down the road by delaying your response until just before their 30-day deadline, then in your response require them to put the case on hold for a further 30 days while you seek 'debt advice' (use those words) as per the PAP.  

There is no tactical advantage in delaying this, but if you do, you'll need to be aware of any holidays you might have booked which might get in the way of you dealing with this with delay dates and deadlines. 

If I kick them down the road, it would be purely to put salt in the wound. Their original case was honestly weak at best and i'm surprised they've taken it this far. 

Umkomaas

rinovesp233 said:

Umkomaas said:

Respond robustly to UKPC following the LBC/LOC guidance in the NEWBIES FAQ Announcement, second post.  Decide if you want to get things underway asap, or kick the can down the road by delaying your response until just before their 30-day deadline, then in your response require them to put the case on hold for a further 30 days while you seek 'debt advice' (use those words) as per the PAP.  

There is no tactical advantage in delaying this, but if you do, you'll need to be aware of any holidays you might have booked which might get in the way of you dealing with this with delay dates and deadlines. 

If I kick them down the road, it would be purely to put salt in the wound. Their original case was honestly weak at best and i'm surprised they've taken it this far. 

I don't think they'll progress as far as court, they will likely follow their (now seemingly) erstwhile solicitors (DCB Legal) procedure of discontinuing where a solid Defence/WS is produced - they seem to be cutting out the middleman for DIY, although they have no experience of litigation on their own.

The opportunity to get this out of your hair soonest would be via an immediate 'bring it on now' response. But, entirely your choice. 

rinovesp233

Umkomaas said:

rinovesp233 said:

Umkomaas said:

Respond robustly to UKPC following the LBC/LOC guidance in the NEWBIES FAQ Announcement, second post.  Decide if you want to get things underway asap, or kick the can down the road by delaying your response until just before their 30-day deadline, then in your response require them to put the case on hold for a further 30 days while you seek 'debt advice' (use those words) as per the PAP.  

There is no tactical advantage in delaying this, but if you do, you'll need to be aware of any holidays you might have booked which might get in the way of you dealing with this with delay dates and deadlines. 

If I kick them down the road, it would be purely to put salt in the wound. Their original case was honestly weak at best and i'm surprised they've taken it this far. 

I don't think they'll progress as far as court, they will likely follow their (now seemingly) erstwhile solicitors (DCB Legal) procedure of discontinuing where a solid Defence/WS is produced - they seem to be cutting out the middleman for DIY, although they have no experience of litigation on their own.

The opportunity to get this out of your hair soonest would be via an immediate 'bring it on now' response. But, entirely your choice. 

I'll just get it out the way. I was unable to search for robust responses, are you able to provide an example? Or should I find one on google and adjust to the nature of the claim