PCM UK PCN

F_CST

I am the hirer of a vehicle which received the following ticket: https://flic.kr/p/2oWdAgp

I made reps stating that I was the hirer, no admission would be made as to who was driving, challenging their authority to act and requesting all future correspondence to my (provided) home address.

I have received the following response: https://flic.kr/p/2oWja1J

How should I respond to this? It appears that, despite the letter stating I have14 days to respond, PCM have gone to the DVLA and begun making contact with my lease company.

Le_Kirk

It looks like it is a hire/lease car with a windscreen ticket (NtO) and therefore you cannot appeal "on behalf of", you need to get a Notice to Hirer in your own name.  When you read the NEWBIE sticky all about hire cars what did it suggest you do?

F_CST

This the advice I thought I was following from the newbie thread:

In the case of a company car or hire car, if you get a windscreen ticket and cannot get it cancelled by the landowner (PLAN A above), appeal within the first 2 weeks, well before day 21. This is in order to hook the PPC in your direction, before they get a chance to get the keeper's details from the DVLA.

Am I now waiting for the Notice to Hirer to come?

Cabbage_Patch1

Hello,

I received this claim letter from the county court for a parking incident that occurred in August last year. I have read the newbies thread and so far I have:

 

I) Completed the AOS 24/07/23

II) Sent a letter to GS seeking debt advice 

III) Requested and received SAR from PCM UK

IV) Downloaded the August 2023 defence template

 

I am in the process of putting together my defence. I have copied and pasted the new August 2023 defence template and I am currently working on the body of my defence (#3).

 

From the SAR information sent by PCM UK I can see that the times between the photos taken of my parked vehicle is 1 minute.

Consequently I am planning to use  three main angels as the main basis of my defence.

 

 

1.    The legal requirement of Grace period in the IPC code of practice which PCM UK are a member of

2.    Granted permission by the legal tenant to park in allocated bay as a visitor to the property (Jopson v Home Guard (appeal) and PACE v Mr N)

3.    Confusing and deliberately signage - it is not apparent where permits can be obtained and where visitors can park within the housing complex.

 

Is it possible to provide links to the Jopson v Home Guard (appeal) and PACE v Mr N etc  as this case is about incurring the PCN whilst parked as a visitor in a residential space where the tenant/leaseholder has already been granted the right to park or unload.  

Additionally anyways I can apply this to my defence or anything else I can include in it will be greatly appreciated.

 

 

Many thanks 

 

KeithP

@Cabbage_Patch1, please stop posting irrelevant information on other people's threads.
I realise you are new here but it can only lead to confusion when trying to deal with two different issues in a single thread.

Please can I suggest you start a new thread where you will get all the help you need.
Please do that very soon as it looks like you are running out of time.

Cabbage_Patch1

Thank you. I will do.

Cabbage_Patch1

@KeithP I have created a new thread as you have suggested. Any help from you in regards to my case will be very much appreciated.

Many thanks 

Le_Kirk

F_CST said:

This the advice I thought I was following from the newbie thread:

In the case of a company car or hire car, if you get a windscreen ticket and cannot get it cancelled by the landowner (PLAN A above), appeal within the first 2 weeks, well before day 21. This is in order to hook the PPC in your direction, before they get a chance to get the keeper's details from the DVLA.

Am I now waiting for the Notice to Hirer to come?

Yep but it seems that the PPC thinks you are appealing on behalf of someone; which of the three suggested links did you use?  Did you also write to the hire/lease company to make sure they do not pay it on your behalf if/when they receive the NTK and that they complete the transfer of liability to you as hirer - NOT driver?  At this point the PPC should then send you a NTH in your name.